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Mickey_Raider wrote: June 8, 2021, 5:03 pm So Hodgson and Papa have leapt to the defence of Scott.

Along with Williams and Tapine is this the “no buy in” crew?

If so, kind of concerning when 4 of your best players are the ones not buying in.
Where has this leaping occurred?
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Coastalraider wrote: June 8, 2021, 7:35 pm Where has this leaping occurred?
They were asked about a team mate and didnt **** bus the guy that might end up back in the sqaud 2 weeks from now :lol:
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Botman wrote: June 8, 2021, 7:36 pm
Coastalraider wrote: June 8, 2021, 7:35 pm Where has this leaping occurred?
They were asked about a team mate and didnt **** bus the guy that might end up back in the sqaud 2 weeks from now :lol:
Ahhh... so nothing then. Carry on.
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NRL integrity unit still assessing Curtis Scott Kokomo's incident



The NRL integrity unit have spoken to Curtis Scott and there could be a final call on any possible sanctions the Canberra Raiders centre might face by next week on an alleged nightclub fight. Then the Raiders board will decide if they want to take any further action themselves.

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No police involvement so I think he’ll survive. Last chance though…
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sprintman wrote: June 11, 2021, 4:33 pm No police involvement so I think he’ll survive. Last chance though…
I think he'll survive too but surely a club like the Roosters or Storm would be a bit more ruthless with somebody in his position. He hasn't been producing all that much on field so I don't see why we should back him here... he was already meant to be on his best behaviour. If you **** up off field but you've been doing your job on field then I think the club should give you a chance but if you aren't meeting your performance targets on field either then see you later imo.
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The way this is being reported makes me believe the club is going to sack him.
GE already highlighted the stronger wording than normal in their press release regarding his situation

And each time a report comes out, im finding wording like the above
"Then the Raiders board will decide if they want to take any further action themselves."

That reads to me like the reporter has been told by someone in the club that there is going to be more to this than just taking what the NRL hand down and moving on. The club has it's own say in this and seems to me they are making that known
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Yea even if they don't feel they have grounds to sack him i reckon they could well tell him his time is up and he wont be playing first grade ever again.
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I’m extremely confident they have grounds to terminate the contract if that’s what they want to do.
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Let's assume for a moment that it's not serious enough for the nrl to sanction him but the club has grounds to sack him. Would you?

I'm not sure. On football performances alone I reckon he has been solid for the most part this year. Unless there was a genuinely better prospect available i reckon we stick by him.
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If the club doesn’t like the contract and think they’d rather not have him, you sack him

If the club is happy with the contract and think he’s a player they want going forward, you keep him
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Botman wrote: June 11, 2021, 5:36 pm If the club doesn’t like the contract and think they’d rather not have him, you sack him

If the club is happy with the contract and think he’s a player they want going forward, you keep him
All been pretty quiet so far. Stood down though...

Almost feels like polite inquiries are being made out there...
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BadnMean wrote: June 11, 2021, 5:44 pm
Botman wrote: June 11, 2021, 5:36 pm If the club doesn’t like the contract and think they’d rather not have him, you sack him

If the club is happy with the contract and think he’s a player they want going forward, you keep him
All been pretty quiet so far. Stood down though...

Almost feels like polite inquiries are being made out there...
Agree with you both…
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Get him in the cannon already
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I feel what the police do is irrelevant here.

It was clearly him in the footage. If Mona's gets sacked for a dog licking his jatz crackers, our management will do whatever it wants with Scott for bringing the club into disrepute.
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I can not put into words how disappointed I’d be for the club to not sack the bloke who’s arguably the worst signing it’s ever made when it’s being offered on a silver platter.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote:I can not put into words how disappointed I’d be for the club to not sack the bloke who’s arguably the worst signing it’s ever made when it’s being offered on a silver platter.
Hahaha, this hits deep. So True!


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Hard not to think the longer this plays out the more likely he stays. I did say a while ago my gut feel was that we will see him stay on. No reason to drag it out if they wanted him gone.
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julian87 wrote: June 12, 2021, 7:03 am I can not put into words how disappointed I’d be for the club to not sack the bloke who’s arguably the worst signing it’s ever made when it’s being offered on a silver platter.
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Billy Walker wrote:Hard not to think the longer this plays out the more likely he stays. I did say a while ago my gut feel was that we will see him stay on. No reason to drag it out if they wanted him gone.
Probably getting their ducks in a row to make sure it can't be challenged

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Billy Walker wrote: June 12, 2021, 9:03 am Hard not to think the longer this plays out the more likely he stays. I did say a while ago my gut feel was that we will see him stay on. No reason to drag it out if they wanted him gone.
C'mon now, it has been less than a week!
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Like 40% of me wants us to keep him just to see everyone lose their minds 🤣
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The other pointer is... no comment, as far as I can see from Ricky Stuart yesterday. No comment in almost a week. Ricky is the first to come out and defend a player if he believes the player has been up front with him and owning a mistake or there are some sort of extenuating circumstances. Not telling the club, which seems to be the case here, will be the biggest issue.
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I think the Raiders will sack him if the NRL deregister him for continued poor behaviour.

If the incident is not even pursued by the Police or a complainent it may not be enough of an issue to warrant serious punishment.
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No victim, no police action, I’m not sure there is much coming to strengthen the case against him. We have all speculated there would have been behavioural clauses in his contract that could have been enacted by now so I’m not sure the delay unless there is a view to keep him or as TW suggests it’s a conservative process to ensure no holes. In terms of timing if they pulled the trigger last week, players would have had the bye weekend to get over it and by now the world has moved on. By waiting we cop another round of headlines, some further potential discontent in the group and a lengthened road to recovery. I’m adding 1 and 1 and getting an answer that says he’s staying. Maybe Timoko’s performance tonight might be an influence one way or the other.
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^I wondered that too. We've seemed to come out the other side of the GWilly saga, somehow, without a revolt or overhead projector moment. Could be risky to punt another relatively popular member of the team so soon
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Doesn't need a police charge for a contract to be terminated. It's about breaching the code of behaviour e.g. cruisers on the roof instead of attending a recovery session, bubblers in a public toilet etc.
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Northern Raider wrote: June 12, 2021, 10:25 am Doesn't need a police charge for a contract to be terminated. It's about breaching the code of behaviour e.g. cruisers on the roof instead of attending a recovery session, bubblers in a public toilet etc.
That’s my point, the code breach has been there for a week or so if the club wanted to act. There is nothing coming to strengthen the case. If we haven’t pulled the trigger by now we are either being super cautious about how we do it or increasing more likely we are keeping him.
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I'm hearing it's taking so long they are considering extending his contract for 2 years to properly figure out the termination.
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julian87 wrote: June 12, 2021, 7:03 am I can not put into words how disappointed I’d be for the club to not sack the bloke who’s arguably the worst signing it’s ever made when it’s being offered on a silver platter.
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greeneyed wrote: June 12, 2021, 9:26 am The other pointer is... no comment, as far as I can see from Ricky Stuart yesterday. No comment in almost a week. Ricky is the first to come out and defend a player if he believes the player has been up front with him and owning a mistake or there are some sort of extenuating circumstances. Not telling the club, which seems to be the case here, will be the biggest issue.
This is the most telling part for me…
Ricky’s silence…the lawyers must be looking at it…
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HSS is back in full training... Be a power move to just stall it until HSS had a reggies game or two under his belt and THEN sack him...
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GreenMachine wrote: June 12, 2021, 11:35 am
greeneyed wrote: June 12, 2021, 9:26 am The other pointer is... no comment, as far as I can see from Ricky Stuart yesterday. No comment in almost a week. Ricky is the first to come out and defend a player if he believes the player has been up front with him and owning a mistake or there are some sort of extenuating circumstances. Not telling the club, which seems to be the case here, will be the biggest issue.
This is the most telling part for me…
Ricky’s silence…the lawyers must be looking at it…
I think it would only be a small part of it. I said early on after this situation came to light that surely the club added some conditions to his agreement/contract after the drunken Sydney incident.

I think the delay on a decision is also due to seeing how other pieces fall in player / cap management. We get Dufty over the line and CNK agrees for a move to the centres then he could be shown the door. We miss out on Dufty and/or CNK isn't on board with moving from fullback then the club might not get rid of him.

This is kind of what Botman is talking about with these types of team / player business decisions. As a club we've learnt the hard way not to cut players on morale high ground, if it's not in the best interests of the team.
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GreenMachine wrote: June 12, 2021, 11:35 am
greeneyed wrote: June 12, 2021, 9:26 am The other pointer is... no comment, as far as I can see from Ricky Stuart yesterday. No comment in almost a week. Ricky is the first to come out and defend a player if he believes the player has been up front with him and owning a mistake or there are some sort of extenuating circumstances. Not telling the club, which seems to be the case here, will be the biggest issue.
This is the most telling part for me…
Ricky’s silence…the lawyers must be looking at it…
Hard to defend the indefensible - I’m guessing Ricky is very annoyed and likely thinks Scott is a tool. He’s not going to burn his own credibility backing this guy. But he also hasn’t gone hard condemning him. As far as controversy goes this isn’t front page of the telly and it’s slipping along quietly under the radar. I’m tipping the club will wait till the build up to origin 2 when everyone is looking elsewhere to make a short announcement about a fine, some reform work and backdated ban and Mr Scott will be in the 4 jumper mid July.
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Billy Walker wrote: June 12, 2021, 12:06 pm
GreenMachine wrote: June 12, 2021, 11:35 am
greeneyed wrote: June 12, 2021, 9:26 am The other pointer is... no comment, as far as I can see from Ricky Stuart yesterday. No comment in almost a week. Ricky is the first to come out and defend a player if he believes the player has been up front with him and owning a mistake or there are some sort of extenuating circumstances. Not telling the club, which seems to be the case here, will be the biggest issue.
This is the most telling part for me…
Ricky’s silence…the lawyers must be looking at it…
Hard to defend the indefensible - I’m guessing Ricky is very annoyed and likely thinks Scott is a tool. He’s not going to burn his own credibility backing this guy. But he also hasn’t gone hard condemning him. As far as controversy goes this isn’t front page of the telly and it’s slipping along quietly under the radar. I’m tipping the club will wait till the build up to origin 2 when everyone is looking elsewhere to make a short announcement about a fine, some reform work and backdated ban and Mr Scott will be in the 4 jumper mid July.
Sounds about right based on the fact he’s back training..
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