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-TW- wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:08 pm
Azza wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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2022??
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So going back a few weeks, in the context of the Williams matter, Ben Ikin asked why does this keep happening at the Raiders. Clearly we are not the only club enjoying the pleasures of players off field dramas, but the suggestions that there has been smoke around Curtis for a while really makes you wonder why he ended up on our books? Do we like redemption stories, struggle to attract nice people or just think due diligence is overrated?
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Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:11 pm
-TW- wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:08 pm
Azza wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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Billy Walker wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:45 pm So going back a few weeks, in the context of the Williams matter, Ben Ikin asked why does this keep happening at the Raiders. Clearly we are not the only club enjoying the pleasures of players off field dramas, but the suggestions that there has been smoke around Curtis for a while really makes you wonder why he ended up on our books? Do we like redemption stories, struggle to attract nice people or just think due diligence is overrated?
I think it's a simple case of Craig Bellamy selling his mate Rocky right up the river.
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Can anyone find me stats that show the correlation between players the raiders have released over the last 10 years and the % of tattoo coverage on those players.
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The Nickman wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:48 pm
Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:11 pm
-TW- wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:08 pm
Azza wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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Billy Walker wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:51 pm Can anyone find me stats that show the correlation between players the raiders have released over the last 10 years and the % of tattoo coverage on those players.
100% - Carney, Dugan, Ferguson, now looks like Scott

Carney 2008 so have to go beyond 10 years.
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Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:53 pm
The Nickman wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:48 pm
Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:11 pm
-TW- wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:08 pm
Azza wrote:
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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Police saying “no victim, nothing to see here”.
Unless the ‘victim’ comes forward I’m not sure what the NRL or Raiders can do.
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sprintman wrote: June 7, 2021, 4:50 pm Police saying “no victim, nothing to see here”.
Unless the ‘victim’ comes forward I’m not sure what the NRL or Raiders can do.
They can do heaps. Having a victim willing to make a formal complaint is only required for criminal prosecution. The video alone is sufficient for the Raiders and NRL as employees to prove their case that he has bought 'the company' or 'brand' into disrepute under workplace law and terminate his contract.
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sprintman wrote: June 7, 2021, 4:50 pm Police saying “no victim, nothing to see here”.
Unless the ‘victim’ comes forward I’m not sure what the NRL or Raiders can do.
I'm sure someone from the GH will volunteer to be the victim; actually we are all victims every week watching him play for the last 1.5 years. Even though not a police / criminal matter, we can still sack him - e.g. what happened with CHN, for bringing the club into disrepute
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Azza wrote:
-TW- wrote: June 7, 2021, 3:08 pm
Azza wrote:
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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Canberra Raider Curtis Scott nightclub incident: police say victim needs to come forward

ACT Policing will only take action on Curtis Scott's alleged nightclub fight if a complaint is made.

"ACT Policing has not received an official complaint or report in relation to that matter," ACT Chief Police Officer Neil Gaughan said on Monday. "We have seen the footage, which I think pretty much as has everyone on the east coast of Australia, but at this stage we don't intend to take any further action unless we receive a complaint."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:53 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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greeneyed wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:01 pm Canberra Raider Curtis Scott nightclub incident: police say victim needs to come forward

ACT Policing will only take action on Curtis Scott's alleged nightclub fight if a complaint is made.

"ACT Policing has not received an official complaint or report in relation to that matter," ACT Chief Police Officer Neil Gaughan said on Monday. "We have seen the footage, which I think pretty much as has everyone on the east coast of Australia, but at this stage we don't intend to take any further action unless we receive a complaint."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
I'll volunteer if it means punting him..
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Even disregarding the obvious off field issues getting this bloke off the books would be a huge positive squad wise.

He’s absolutely mediocre at best and not worth a cent more than say a Brad Parker or Tom Opacic and getting paid way more. I really don’t like being so negative but he’s dragged the club through the mud twice now and played his best footy in a trial. It was a horrendous downgrade of a signing before any of that even happened and if the club get even a whiff of being able to fix that it should be a hair trigger decision.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:38 pm Even disregarding the obvious off field issues getting this bloke off the books would be a huge positive squad wise.

He’s absolutely mediocre at best and not worth a cent more than say a Brad Parker or Tom Opacic and getting paid way more. I really don’t like being so negative but he’s dragged the club through the mud twice now and played his best footy in a trial. It was a horrendous downgrade of a signing before any of that even happened and if the club get even a whiff of being able to fix that it should be a hair trigger decision.
I'd rather we sign Brad Parker so he can stop skinning us every time we play him...
Add him to the list of players that always seem to have the game of their lives against us...
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Anybody got a link or info on Scott's salary at the Raiders?
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Oh another question... if this happened the weekend before last, was it the Saturday night after a long bus trip back from Gosford?
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gergreg wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:56 pm Anybody got a link or info on Scott's salary at the Raiders?
This is probably wrong but I remember it as 600 or over. Melbourne paying freight for 2 seasons with Canberra full freight in 2022.
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gergreg wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:56 pm Anybody got a link or info on Scott's salary at the Raiders?

300k if you believe this

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 76be7dc3e3
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Re his salary, no idea where 600k comes from.. that's lunacy

I believe it was reported at the time that the deal was 400k a year, with the storm tipping in half of that for the first two years in which he'd have been contracted to them (due to end this year)

If that is correct, over the course of the 4 years, we'd end up paying him 1.2m over 4 years, which is probably how FoxSports came to to 300k figure, so that's making sense to me

I believe sacking him would free up around 400k of cap space for 2022,
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julian87 wrote: June 7, 2021, 6:50 pm
gergreg wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:56 pm Anybody got a link or info on Scott's salary at the Raiders?
This is probably wrong but I remember it as 600 or over. Melbourne paying freight for 2 seasons with Canberra full freight in 2022.
600k?

Christ that's Croker money
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afgtnk wrote: June 7, 2021, 7:13 pm
julian87 wrote: June 7, 2021, 6:50 pm
gergreg wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:56 pm Anybody got a link or info on Scott's salary at the Raiders?
This is probably wrong but I remember it as 600 or over. Melbourne paying freight for 2 seasons with Canberra full freight in 2022.
600k?

Christ that's Croker money
The sort of coin reserved for only the most elite centres in the game.
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gergreg wrote: June 7, 2021, 6:01 pm Oh another question... if this happened the weekend before last, was it the Saturday night after a long bus trip back from Gosford?
It was the Sunday night, 30 May.
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Can we go back to the reports of Kokomo’s placing an unofficial ban on Raiders players. Yeah because raider players are the source of all trouble at that fine establishment. Can think of some other groups that you’d hope would be unofficially banned if the joint was consistent. I don’t expect Kokomo’s to lose too much sleep but just putting it out there I am unofficially blacklisting them.
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 5:33 pm
Azza wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:53 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote: June 7, 2021, 2:21 pm If we sack him can we include a clause that if he signs with another club he has to be selected when we play them?
If we sack him the contract no longer exists, so how can we insert a clause in it?

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Botman wrote: June 7, 2021, 7:11 pm Re his salary, no idea where 600k comes from.. that's lunacy

I believe it was reported at the time that the deal was 400k a year, with the storm tipping in half of that for the first two years in which he'd have been contracted to them (due to end this year)

If that is correct, over the course of the 4 years, we'd end up paying him 1.2m over 4 years, which is probably how FoxSports came to to 300k figure, so that's making sense to me

I believe sacking him would free up around 400k of cap space for 2022,
Yeah, that's my understanding too.

Perfect time to ditch him.
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I've been a defender of Scott, and even i'd ditch him in these circumstances
He was brought in because we thought the train was going to keep rolling and we were so close. It was a cheap 2 year gamble for a player Stuart thought was a sound defensive centre who's going to pass the **** football when he should in a GF. I understood that and believe he could be that if he got his **** together off the park.
Doesnt look like that's going to be his journey, but irrespective, the team has taken a turn in the opposite direction. The train is off the tracks. And he's not the sort of player you want to be helping get it back on.

I absolutely think we should and will terminate his contract.
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Curtis Scott re-signs with Melbourne on three-year extension: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/ ... tkshuqnrup

600k off the mark but this article from 18 suggests 500.
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Botman wrote: June 7, 2021, 7:41 pm I've been a defender of Scott, and even i'd ditch him in these circumstances
He was brought in because we thought the train was going to keep rolling and we were so close. It was a cheap 2 year gamble for a player Stuart thought was a sound defensive centre who's going to pass the **** football when he should in a GF. I understood that and believe he could be that if he got his **** together off the park.
Doesnt look like that's going to be his journey, but irrespective, the team has taken a turn in the opposite direction. The train is off the tracks. And he's not the sort of player you want to be helping get it back on.

I absolutely think we should and will terminate his contract.
I’m surprised you thought that of him. He’s always been mediocre at best and ultimately actually rubbish. Even at Melbourne.

Several tiers under Canberra reign Leilua, even defensively, imo.
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You dont just hand off contracts though. When he agreed to be released by the Storm and signed by the Raiders, he very likely accepted a less money year to year for security and more long term going through until 2023 (his market value was obviously less than what it was when he re-signed with the Storm)

Im fairly confident in saying the deal was something in the vincinty of 4 years, 1.6m, and the Storm tipping in 400k in that period (which for them is paying 400k to save 600k if those figures are correct)
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