Canberra Raiders interest in Matt Dufty goes cold

[simo]

Simo's work rate was excellent last night, when Dufty gets here, if Simo holds his spot on the wing, taking a little of that with him back to the wing would be a good start.

He has always had the body language of a bloke completely lacking in confidence. Hopefully last night's game was a turning point.

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I think the freedom needs to be given by the coach. Players all just cant leave their lanes because they want to and i think half the supporter bases problem is they see rapa leaving his and wonder why simo never did the same

[Mickey_Raider]

No one is required after last night
We’ll never lose another game in our existence


Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

[Ruben Daley]

No one is required after last night
We’ll never lose another game in our existence


Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

I’d still take 2012 fullback Reece Robinson over most options. Didn’t last long and his form fell of a cliff but he was sensational for that period.

(I’d take Raider version of Dugan first though.)

[BadnMean]

No one is required after last night
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Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

I’d still take 2012 fullback Reece Robinson over most options. Didn’t last long and his form fell of a cliff but he was sensational for that period.

(I’d take Raider version of Dugan first though.)

No. Just no.

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Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

I’d still take 2012 fullback Reece Robinson over most options. Didn’t last long and his form fell of a cliff but he was sensational for that period.

(I’d take Raider version of Dugan first though.)

He flat out refused to make a tackle, I wouldn't take him regardless of how good his attack was

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[Botman]

I've never in my life seen a player avoid contact like that run from Reece Robinson, it was incredible.

[afgtnk]

I've never in my life seen a player avoid contact like that run from Reece Robinson, it was incredible.

Ohhhh there's probably no one quite like late career Darius Boyd.

Reece was an odd one. It wasn't as if he wasn't built for contact. Good, solid frame on him. Just little desire to defend and improve.

[Botman]

I've never in my life seen a player avoid contact like that run from Reece Robinson, it was incredible.

Ohhhh there's probably no one quite like late career Darius Boyd.

Look, when you're right, you're right
Touche'

Late career Darius pretending to fall over instead of trying to make a tackle was definitely in that conversation.

[Seiffert82]

Reece Robinson. Never seen a bloke as fast as him consistently get to a cover tackle so late.

[Northern Raider]

I've never in my life seen a player avoid contact like that run from Reece Robinson, it was incredible.

Ohhhh there's probably no one quite like late career Darius Boyd.

Look, when you're right, you're right
Touche'

Late career Darius pretending to fall over instead of trying to make a tackle was definitely in that conversation.

My favourite was him stopping and arguing with a non-existent person nearby while the ball carrier ran past him.

[FROG]

Hey but on robo, gee he was good to watch in open space. I remember watching him against the tigers where he absolutely tore them to shreds. I was like robo, what a great performance mate but he was like it was ok... I thought this must be the coolest dude on the planet

[The Nickman]

Reece Robinson. Never seen a bloke as fast as him consistently get to a cover tackle so late.

Only bloke I've ever seen out there who plays with his hands in his pockets.

[Ruben Daley]

No one is required after last night
We’ll never lose another game in our existence


Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

I’d still take 2012 fullback Reece Robinson over most options. Didn’t last long and his form fell of a cliff but he was sensational for that period.

(I’d take Raider version of Dugan first though.)

He flat out refused to make a tackle, I wouldn't take him regardless of how good his attack was

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Hahaha. I thought his might earn me some negative responses.

I'd have to go back through the tapes but my memory of Robinson refusing to tackle (and then eventually just participate) came after a period when he was not detrimentally bad in defence while being scintillating in attack.

Interesting to consider with Dufty all but a done deal.

[The Nickman]

No one is required after last night
We’ll never lose another game in our existence


Jesus Christ

Unbelievable takes.

Reminds me of when Dugan was booted and Reece Robinson put in a few minutes of reasonable fullback play and there were some people deluding themselves into thinking we had upgraded

I’d still take 2012 fullback Reece Robinson over most options. Didn’t last long and his form fell of a cliff but he was sensational for that period.

(I’d take Raider version of Dugan first though.)

He flat out refused to make a tackle, I wouldn't take him regardless of how good his attack was

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Hahaha. I thought his might earn me some negative responses.

I'd have to go back through the tapes but my memory of Robinson refusing to tackle (and then eventually just participate) came after a period when he was not detrimentally bad in defence while being scintillating in attack.

Interesting to consider with Dufty all but a done deal.

Yeah, you have it right here. In 2012 when he filled in for an injured Dugan for a period he was absolutely brilliant, easily the best form of his career. It was after Cruisergate when we'd pinned our hopes on Robinson that he rolled back in with a much more casual attitude, including a complete lack of interest in doing anything remotely physical.

Two separate things, both very real.

[RedRaider]

We all know Dufty is a fine attacking player but limited in defensive attributes. We'll all be watching him closely during our match against the Dragons next week. I am a defensophile so favour players who can tackle and organise a defensive line. It is strong defence which gets teams to finals series. I am concerned that Dufty may prove to be another Blake Austin. It is no good scoring lots of points if the team doesn't make the finals through poor defence. It is why I keeping harping that we do not drive opposition ball carriers backwards in tackles and are seemingly powerless to stop an offload. It is a big part of the reason for our poor season imo.

I understand that the change in rules has favored attack and shown up defensive fraility. Caleb was clearly not the answer. Bailey has had a single game at 1 so while promising it needs to be consistent. CNK has been our fullback the past 2 seasons and we have gone deep into the finals series. His injury in the Panthers game took a lot from us imo. The fact our recruitment had Caleb as our second choice FB for this year may have been more about cap issues than anything else. There simply has to be back up spine players who are capable of performing decently at FG level. Time will tell if Bailey proves to be that back up spine player for FB in 2022.

[GreenMachine]

Even with CNK as fullback we haven’t topped the defensive table.

And this was pre PVL…

As many have pointed out, while the fullback impacts the organisation of the defence, if your relying on the fullback to defend the last line there are problems in your front line…

That being said, I think it’s clear what Dufty will bring and won’t bring and it’s not as if the club (or us fans) are going on blind on this…

[RedRaider]

I take your point Green Machine but we have not had CNK since he was injured in Round 5 against the Panthers.

I have been critical of our defensive efforts in post after post. We do not regularly drive the opposition ball carriers backwards. We did this for the past 2 years and this year it is missing. It has to be coaching. The good sides are driving opposition ball carriers backwards week in week out. Even at Origin level the Blues put pressure on Qld when Qld had the ball. We simply don't. It is a defensive style the whole team can get involved in. The good defensive sides praise their players for such effort. We have reverted to individual hits which under current rules is likely to see us a man down unless executed perfectly. I am looking for Team defensive effort but don't see much of it. Particularly in second halves.

[The Nickman]

Red, you need to drop this obsession with driving players backwards, it's just strange.

I'm as strong an advocate as you are for a solid defensive unit, and was with you all throughout 2017-18 when our defence just STANK, but this whole "driving the opposition players backwards" thing that you've clung too recently, well... it's truly bizarre.

[GreenMachine]

We all love seeing a fast defensive line that pressures the attack, however without the right personnel (halves and edge defenders who are strong defenders and are capable of repeatedly running up and down) it’s impossible to maintain for a full 80…it doesn’t matter who your fullback is…

All that being said we won’t lose CNK and if Dufty isn’t providing what we all hope he will bring in attack, we’ll have a defensive fullback who can replace him …

I don’t think the club will have to overpay to bring Dufty in and that will be offset with players leaving…

[Canberra Milk]

I am concerned that Dufty may prove to be another Blake Austin. It is no good scoring lots of points if the team doesn't make the finals through poor defence.

Blake Austin was a one trick pony: ball running (usually involving the same dummy). Dufty has at least two: running and passing

[simo]

Im happy to have a fullback version of blake austin

[FuiFui BradBrad]

Red, you need to drop this obsession with driving players backwards, it's just strange.

I'm as strong an advocate as you are for a solid defensive unit, and was with you all throughout 2017-18 when our defence just STANK, but this whole "driving the opposition players backwards" thing that you've clung too recently, well... it's truly bizarre.

[GreenMachine]

Dufty working on his early release…

[BJ]

Dufty working on his early release…

Hmmm that wasn’t good.

[Bloody_Burnham]

The pro Dufty camp should be watching the dogs v dragons game right now. Averillo strolls right past Dufty for a try as he fails to take the ball carrier in the back field (fullback play 101) leaving dufty in no man's land. If we are to compete for a premiership again as a club we need to be aiming higher than Dufty. The dragons have seen the light by letting players like him and Corey Norman go and we need to be smart with our recruitment too.

[GreenMachine]

Dufty working on his early release…

Hmmm that wasn’t good.

It’s notable how much the Dragons avoid giving him hit ups 1 and 2 off the kick.

This will be a problem for us if our wings can’t make metres and we adopt the same tactics..

[GreenMachine]

The pro Dufty camp should be watching the dogs v dragons game right now. Averillo strolls right past Dufty for a try as he fails to take the ball carrier in the back field (fullback play 101) leaving dufty in no man's land. If we are to compete for a premiership again as a club we need to be aiming higher than Dufty. The dragons have seen the light by letting players like him and Corey Norman go and we need to be smart with our recruitment too.

It wasn’t good, but the Dragons have been off all game…

[GreenMachine]

I reckon that release is happening tomorrow

[Botman]

The Dufty era is gonna be fun

[GreenMachine]

The Dufty era is gonna be fun

Guaranteed banter…

[BJ]

The Dufty era is gonna be fun

As much fun as September 11?

[Raider47]

Oh boy... we're gonna need CNK in defence. That was shocking.

I really really wonder if we are better off going hard to the market for a fullback in season 2023 rather than settling on an average footballer in Dufty.

[Raiders666]

You can see why he is being let go

[GreenMachine]

What’s the typical Raiders move here?
Early release or backpedaling from the deal?? We can’t win.

[greeneyed]

The Dufty era is gonna be fun

If some people on The GH have had an obsession with Jarrod Croker’s defence, imagine what it’ll be like with Dufty.