Canberra Raiders won't be signing Sharks half Shaun Johnson

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Th bit everyone is missing here is that the recruitment team has actually done a bloody good job of succession planning, but George leaving 18 months early has thrown it all into disarray.

Schneider is the best young kid to come out of a very strong qld junior development school for a while. But he isnt ready right now.

Sione Moala is one of the brightest young prospects to come out of the NZ junior system for a while, and has been showing skills winning the SG ball comp with us this year. But he is a few years off.

If George actually played until the end of next year, both of these guys trajectories would be bang on.

What we need now is a 'bridge' half to fill the gap. SJ would bring experience, speed and points (and goal kicking), and his history of injuries (if it continues) can be offset somewhat with the flip side that our next wave get some exposure to firsts.

So he actually answers 2 questions - he makes us stronger for next year, and also fills a gap while our next wave develop, not exposing them too soon.
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OMG HE HATES CANBERRA HES THE DEVIL I LOVE CANBERRA SO HIS ONE TIME COMMENT MAKES ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF SO HES A TERRIBLE PERSON AND I DONT WANT HIM PLAYING AT THE RAIDERS.

Have I summed it up well?
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The Nickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:07 am
simo wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:00 am Signing johnson also says to other nrl players that players who previously didnt want to go to canberra now want to. Build a better narrative around the club than is there at the moment
Too much is being made of this. He called Canberra "boring" in an interview when he was a 22 year old coming to play here with the Warriors. He was a cocky young guy who bagged the town of the team he was playing. Far too many people here have taken it as "I will never play for the Raiders as long as I draw breath".
Also, Canberra IS **** boring, and the weather absolutely STINKS!

Those two things are pure fact, doesn't mean Canberra isn't ok in other regards.
As a younger person there's enough here to keep me occupied.

The only thing I hate is the climate **** sucks. There's 3 months a year where it's reasonable. THREE

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No. Summed up rather poorly I think :lol:
I don't think anyone has really gone hard down that road
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hrundi89 wrote: June 4, 2021, 12:14 pm OMG HE HATES CANBERRA HES THE DEVIL I LOVE CANBERRA SO HIS ONE TIME COMMENT MAKES ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF SO HES A TERRIBLE PERSON AND I DONT WANT HIM PLAYING AT THE RAIDERS.

Have I summed it up well?
*chef's kiss*

Nailed it!
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-TW- wrote: June 4, 2021, 12:18 pm
The Nickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:07 am
simo wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:00 am Signing johnson also says to other nrl players that players who previously didnt want to go to canberra now want to. Build a better narrative around the club than is there at the moment
Too much is being made of this. He called Canberra "boring" in an interview when he was a 22 year old coming to play here with the Warriors. He was a cocky young guy who bagged the town of the team he was playing. Far too many people here have taken it as "I will never play for the Raiders as long as I draw breath".
Also, Canberra IS **** boring, and the weather absolutely STINKS!

Those two things are pure fact, doesn't mean Canberra isn't ok in other regards.
As a younger person there's enough here to keep me occupied.

The only thing I hate is the climate **** sucks. There's 3 months a year where it's reasonable. THREE

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Three is being generous. I've been there in **** February and been **** freezing before.

In **** FEBRUARY!
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The Nickman wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:12 am
Northern Raider wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:07 am
simo wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:00 am Signing johnson also says to other nrl players that players who previously didnt want to go to canberra now want to. Build a better narrative around the club than is there at the moment
Too much is being made of this. He called Canberra "boring" in an interview when he was a 22 year old coming to play here with the Warriors. He was a cocky young guy who bagged the town of the team he was playing. Far too many people here have taken it as "I will never play for the Raiders as long as I draw breath".
Also, Canberra IS **** boring, and the weather absolutely STINKS!

Those two things are pure fact, doesn't mean Canberra isn't ok in other regards.
This is like all those folks from western Sydney or Penrith telling us... "Canberra is a hole!".
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Coastalraider wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:59 am Th bit everyone is missing here is that the recruitment team has actually done a bloody good job of succession planning, but George leaving 18 months early has thrown it all into disarray.

Schneider is the best young kid to come out of a very strong qld junior development school for a while. But he isnt ready right now.

Sione Moala is one of the brightest young prospects to come out of the NZ junior system for a while, and has been showing skills winning the SG ball comp with us this year. But he is a few years off.

If George actually played until the end of next year, both of these guys trajectories would be bang on.

What we need now is a 'bridge' half to fill the gap. SJ would bring experience, speed and points (and goal kicking), and his history of injuries (if it continues) can be offset somewhat with the flip side that our next wave get some exposure to firsts.

So he actually answers 2 questions - he makes us stronger for next year, and also fills a gap while our next wave develop, not exposing them too soon.
Good post.
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greeneyed wrote: June 4, 2021, 1:04 pm
This is like all those folks from western Sydney or Penrith telling us... "Canberra is a hole!".
Penrith is in Western Sydney, sport.
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Shaun Johnson is just another Matt Awful in the waiting..
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Botman wrote: June 4, 2021, 1:12 pm
greeneyed wrote: June 4, 2021, 1:04 pm
This is like all those folks from western Sydney or Penrith telling us... "Canberra is a hole!".
Penrith is in Western Sydney, sport.
Only people from Penrith think that. The rest of Sydney denies it.

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He will go to the Dogs
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Raiders666 wrote:He will go to the Dogs
I think he went to the dogs a few seasons ago.
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I'd rather have Johnson then Luke ####@@@ Brooks :rant
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Didn't we make a big play for Johnson when the Warriors moved him on?
And he rejected us?
I agree he might be the best of whats out there for season 2022. But it looks to me if he ends up at the Raiders it will only be because he can't gt a better deal elsewhere, (considering what he has previously said about Canberra in the past). And if that's the case the end result will not be good.
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Sign Johnson and widdop for 2022, put Jack at left centre and sign dufty, cnk to wing.
Maybe its our turn to buy a premiership.
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Coastalraider wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:59 am Th bit everyone is missing here is that the recruitment team has actually done a bloody good job of succession planning, but George leaving 18 months early has thrown it all into disarray.

Schneider is the best young kid to come out of a very strong qld junior development school for a while. But he isnt ready right now.

Sione Moala is one of the brightest young prospects to come out of the NZ junior system for a while, and has been showing skills winning the SG ball comp with us this year. But he is a few years off.

If George actually played until the end of next year, both of these guys trajectories would be bang on.

What we need now is a 'bridge' half to fill the gap. SJ would bring experience, speed and points (and goal kicking), and his history of injuries (if it continues) can be offset somewhat with the flip side that our next wave get some exposure to firsts.

So he actually answers 2 questions - he makes us stronger for next year, and also fills a gap while our next wave develop, not exposing them too soon.
This is a very good point.

It really impacts your club's planning when a key position player ends his tenure that much earlier than expected.

There are two possibilities I see for 2022-23. One is Jack, Papa and co. regain their best form and we resume our place as a top four team. In this case, Johnson could propel us back into title contention.

The other (more likely) scenario is we need to reboot the line-up over those two seasons. In that case, Johnson can prevent us from hitting rock bottom while we do that. Ideally, we want to still be competitive in our off seasons and signings like Johnson can help with that.
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Botman wrote:
greeneyed wrote: June 4, 2021, 1:04 pm
This is like all those folks from western Sydney or Penrith telling us... "Canberra is a hole!".
Penrith is in Western Sydney, sport.
Unless you’re watching the news when something awful happens in Western Sydney, and the journo comes to you live from Strathfield…

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Polky being pretty clear he thinks it’s not happening. He’s been talking to Peter Mulholland. I don’t see any quotes though on this. Only quote in that story is Johnson’s manager saying Johnson would be open to a move to Canberra.
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When do I get my Schneider tattoo?
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greeneyed wrote: June 4, 2021, 7:24 pm

Polky being pretty clear he thinks it’s not happening. He’s been talking to Peter Mulholland. I don’t see any quotes though on this. Only quote in that story is Johnson’s manager saying Johnson would be open to a move to Canberra.
If thats the case then fair enough but when we offered williams his immediate release Furner said it was because it would allow the raiders to find a suitable replacement thats currently available that might not be available by the end of the year.

If he wasnt talking about johnson, who was he talking about????
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Sorry. Is polky saying Johnson signing ain't happening?
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FROG wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:27 pm Sorry. Is polky saying Johnson signing ain't happening?
That's what he's saying.
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Brooks > Johnson
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afgtnk wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:38 pm Brooks > Johnson
Agree.
I’m not sure he’s available though.
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FROG wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:27 pm Sorry. Is polky saying Johnson signing ain't happening?
Yes. Polky is saying it is the remotest of murmers from his client, "oh yes, I would entertain an offer from canberra" to create some leverage from a top up of the offer. Business as usual.
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GreenMachine wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:49 pm
afgtnk wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:38 pm Brooks > Johnson
Agree.
I’m not sure he’s available though.
I think he will be.
As for Brooks > Johnson...

Injuries turned off? Not even close. NOT close. SJ leaves him for dead, even at this stage of his career. SJ is a better ball player, slightly better defender, better kicking game, smarter player.
But what do you get from SJ over the course of the season vs Brooks... i dunno. Injuries considered, its close.
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Well yeah.... but we're talking the reality of the situation, as it is right now - and it's not close IMO.

Brooks gives us more longevity and a good injury history. Plus, I think with the way he plays he's probably a better fit than Johnson. If people are wanting an 'organising' half, then that's what Brooks is. With a high quality fullback he could go to another level IMO. It's what he's lacked big time, apart from a decent pack.

Signing a guy on big money, only for him to get injured for 6-10 games a year is just a potential season killer. We don't need that.
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Botman wrote: June 4, 2021, 10:29 pm
GreenMachine wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:49 pm
afgtnk wrote: June 4, 2021, 9:38 pm Brooks > Johnson
Agree.
I’m not sure he’s available though.
I think he will be.
As for Brooks > Johnson...

Injuries turned off? Not even close. NOT close. SJ leaves him for dead, even at this stage of his career. SJ is a better ball player, slightly better defender, better kicking game, smarter player.
But what do you get from SJ over the course of the season vs Brooks... i dunno. Injuries considered, its close.
The club will sit on its hands and in several weeks or months we'll be having this same discussion - yet comparing Ash Taylor and Milf.
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Johnson absolutely WILL miss 6-10 games a year. Look at his last 5 seasons. That was his "peak" and he was missing that many.

He's now on the wrong side of 30. Doesn't seem much but look how it went for Hodgo (31), Toots (30) and Rapana (31) and they generally were more durable than Johnson even when young. There's a cliff some players go over... see Keiron Foran...

He's the best half left. Talent. Smarts. etc. But he's going to be busted a fair bit. Tricky.
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I’ve said my bit on SJ...
Not saying Brooks is the right answer, but in a shoot out with SJ I’m taking Brooks ...

Because availability is the best ability and Johnson will miss games given he is on the physical decline.
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afgtnk wrote: June 4, 2021, 10:35 pm Well yeah.... but we're talking the reality of the situation, as it is right now - and it's not close IMO.

Brooks gives us more longevity and a good injury history. Plus, I think with the way he plays he's probably a better fit than Johnson. If people are wanting an 'organising' half, then that's what Brooks is. With a high quality fullback he could go to another level IMO. It's what he's lacked big time, apart from a decent pack.

Signing a guy on big money, only for him to get injured for 6-10 games a year is just a potential season killer. We don't need that.
I'm excited if Johnson joins us, not Brooks. Brooks doesn't get injured as he doesn't tackle or run with the ball. And he has a **** kicking game. He's the only half that hasn't played finals footy over 100 games. Played 160 games, no finals in a 8 teams finals era. **** ****
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I'm with you HK. Brooks is barely first grade standard. his defence is worse than Sammy's. I appreciate he's never plaid with a good fullback though. I mean it's not like he's ever played with a Tedesco type player or anything. 🤔
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Hahahahaha Luke Brooks? *chef’s kiss*

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hrundi89 wrote: June 4, 2021, 12:14 pm OMG HE HATES CANBERRA HES THE DEVIL I LOVE CANBERRA SO HIS ONE TIME COMMENT MAKES ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF SO HES A TERRIBLE PERSON AND I DONT WANT HIM PLAYING AT THE RAIDERS.

Have I summed it up well?
Yeah, nah.

It's about the fact he has previously expressed zero interest in coming to Canberra.

If Canterbury are genuinely keen on him he's a million to one coming here, much like Hynes was. Good for his manager to throw us a bone though, in the hope of getting his client into a bidding war.
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