Canberra Raiders miss out on Nicho Hynes

[Azza]

TR was right. We won't see another Raiders premiership in his lifetime. We blew it in 2019 and are now on a very slippery slope

[gerg]

Hmmm. We should see if Connor Treacey is interested in playing for our side in the halves. They have Johnson and Moylan so maybe we can squeeze out Connor.

Id give Johnson a go.

A little injury prone and has said he hates Canberra. I do like the look of Connor though. I think he has improved a lot this year. And has plenty of potential.

[Canberra Milk]

Hmmm. We should see if Connor Treacey is interested in playing for our side in the halves. They have Johnson and Moylan so maybe we can squeeze out Connor.

Agree. He can run, and is willing. Might be a Sticky type player. Surely he's forced out with the Hynes signing, unless they're planning to play him halfback... I doubt it

Worst case he makes a good centre. Make it happen

[T_R]

TR was right. We won't see another Raiders premiership in his lifetime. We blew it in 2019 and are now on a very slippery slope

HIS lifetime??

Our lifetime. Our.



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[greeneyed]

I reckon they’ve got a great deal at $600,000.

[Azza]

TR was right. We won't see another Raiders premiership in his lifetime. We blew it in 2019 and are now on a very slippery slope

HIS lifetime??

Our lifetime. Our.



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But you're old..I still retain hope re mine

[GreenMachine]

Hmmm. We should see if Connor Treacey is interested in playing for our side in the halves. They have Johnson and Moylan so maybe we can squeeze out Connor.

I think you’ll find Johnson and Moylan are being squeezed out...
What are the odds they end up with us? lol

[greeneyed]

As if I wasn’t already depressed enough.

[kiwi raider]

Connor tracey re-signed with cronulla a few weeks back.

[Makaveli]

Our recruitment department are awesome

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[benda]

I reckon they’ve got a great deal at $600,000.

Bargain

[Off]

Can't yas get some waves down there in that swampy lake.****

[gerg]

Connor tracey re-signed with cronulla a few weeks back.

I thought that may have been the case. We're going to miss everything here. Hynes, Dufty... inaction is going to kill us.

[Canberra Milk]

Connor tracey re-signed with cronulla a few weeks back.

Our roster is really starting to fall behind. Amazing how quick it happens...

[GreenMachine]

Dufty is there on a platter...
There are no takers.
Unlike Hynes he’s purely a fullback and there aren’t many clubs in desperate need for him given his stature...
Like it or not, but having a larger fullback is an advantage under the high ball and kick return...

[FROG]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

[Botman]

I reckon they’ve got a great deal at $600,000.

Bargain

He's in the situation right now at the storm where he's playing fullback or in the halves, and whilst there are some similarities, if he was a fulltime fullback vs fullback half, things change a little bit to accomidate that better

Im very curious about who they pair with him in the halves, but i think this is the type of guy who with the certainity about where he's playing, will take his game to the next level at that position

[gangrenous]

Dufty starting to smell real fishy.

The way Dragons were shopping him before seemingly having a replacement. Lack of interest from other clubs falling over themselves for Hynes.

It feels like there’s some known issue amongst the NRL community.

[Canberra Milk]

Dufty is there on a platter...
There are no takers.
Unlike Hynes he’s purely a fullback and there aren’t many clubs in desperate need for him given his stature...
Like it or not, but having a larger fullback is an advantage under the high ball and kick return...

Lack of action on Dufty tells us all we need to know about Sticky and CNK: he's locked on as fullback.

Most clubs don't want Dufty because they already have very good fullbacks

[Billy Walker]

Call Don and tell him to put down the pen on the proposal he was working on - Hynes signed with the Sharkies. I wonder if we even made an offer?

[FROG]

Dufty is there on a platter...
There are no takers.
Unlike Hynes he’s purely a fullback and there aren’t many clubs in desperate need for him given his stature...
Like it or not, but having a larger fullback is an advantage under the high ball and kick return...

Lack of action on Dufty tells us all we need to know about Sticky and CNK: he's locked on as fullback.

Most clubs don't want Dufty because they already have very good fullbacks

I think you'll find that stick isn't interested in Dufty because he has a better fullback in CNK. Just because there are 50 knuckleheads on here who want to blame CNK for not winning the premiership in the two years he played for us, it doesn't make it right. There are 16 other roles we need to fill ahead of fullback. Sticky to his credit has got this 100% correct

[rayden83]

Our recruitment department are awesome

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Its not recruitments fault that Canberra has a reputation (that precedes itself) for being boring. We should avoid signing surfy types like Nicho because they will never be happy and their heart will always long for the beach. Our recruitment policy focus on signing players from the country, NZ and England (despite recent hiccups).

[1992]

We will sign Kyle Flanagan in a mid year transfer in 2022.

Go to bed.

[greeneyed]

Not interested in Dufty at all. Not only are there red flags, he’s not a better option than CNK.

[Off]

Call Don and tell him to put down the pen on the proposal he was working on - Hynes signed with the Sharkies. I wonder if we even made an offer?

He's still looking for his pen that could write in all 4 fancy colours, black blue green and red.

[jimmy82]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

Agree, I’m quite happy with one CNK at the back for us.

[mongoose]

This whole pursuit (probably mostly occurring on here rather than actually at Raiders HQ) felt pretty knee-jerk to be honest.

That is not me saying Hynes is a bad player or not worth the reported 600k per season.

This club is in a deep hole. The first step is for Rick and the administration to admit that. If (big if) that happens, then the smart thing to do would be to plan a rebuild over subsequent years, targeting players that suit the way we want to play and are a good cultural fit aligned to what the club is trying to achieve. Not drop our trousers for the next available free agent “just because they are available”. Have people conveniently forgotten about where this approach got us the majority of the last 2 decades??

One thing I will give Rick credit for - he thought outside the box with the recruitment of the English lads and when it proved to be successful, he leaned right into it. The next set of moves he and Don make need to be just as deliberate and calculating. And signing a 24 year old 20-gamer who has had a recent run of half a dozen good games doesn’t really fit that bill.

The club should be looking to replicate what the Panthers have done. I don't see us bouncing back to a top 4 side any time soon unless we can buy players like Hynes and other origin quality backs. It's not going to happen though, so we should be looking to build for the long term. There is no reason the Raiders can't do what Penrith have done. The clubs are very similar really....

[rayden83]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

Agree, I’m quite happy with one CNK at the back for us.

CNK is either a bottom 8 starting full back or a top 8 back up. Last year be proved he wasn’t anywhere near the elite fullbacks, so if we could get an upgrade by signing Dufty and moving CNK on or to the centres that would be worth considering.

Complacency is the Raiders biggest enemy. We have mild success and then mediocre players become sacrosanct which results in poor recruitment and junior development.

[Brew]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

Agreed


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[Canberra Milk]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

Agree, I’m quite happy with one CNK at the back for us.

CNK is either a bottom 8 starting full back or a top 8 back up. Last year be proved he wasn’t anywhere near the elite fullbacks, so if we could get an upgrade by signing Dufty and moving CNK on or to the centres that would be worth considering.

Complacency is the Raiders biggest enemy. We have mild success and then mediocre players become sacrosanct which results in poor recruitment and junior development.

Agree. Anyone who's pro CNK (as fullback), just try naming 5 starting fullbacks he's better than. Just 5. And do yourself a favour and skip all the top teams, because he won't even be in the conversation there. The fact that he's paired with a running five eighth just compounds the issue. He could do well in certain systems (including our old grinding style, which I now hope is behind us), but not ours where we're bereft of playmakers and creativity

Anyway I won't get into the CNK debate again, just the one post only (I swear)

[Raider47]

I am convinced we've dodged a bullet here. In a way I hope I'm wrong cause I kinda like this kid but I honestly reckon he will struggle out of the storm system like about half a dozen other promising halves have. I don't think 600k is a bargain for a 25 year old kid with less than 50 first grade nrl games. I actually think they've paid overs.

Agreed


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Whether this is true or not, I think it is concerning regardless that it seems like we won't be attracting much talent in the coming season or two due to off field issues and the like...

[Botman]

Anyway I won't get into the CNK debate again, just the one post only (I swear)

We all keep saying this
It's a lie

We've got 9 months of off season between now and 2022 kick off.

[Boomercm]

Ok so now you've missed out on this, go out and snap Dufty up while he's still available you ambitionless ****.

I'm not getting excited over either, but if in the STirm system, Dufty likely a better player than Hynes.

[GreenMachine]

I’ve been convinced for a while that we won’t move from CNK at fullback...

The best we could hope for is a halfback and better wingers in the backline...

We could definitely use a refresh in the forwards...pace and ball playing would be handy but that might be asking for too much...

To be fair, Hynes could set his own market price and the kid did...

I’m just not sure we had the ambition to pay 600k for him and move CNK into the centre’s...it was either fullback or nothing from our management team and they chose nothing, which says they are happy with our fullback.

[Canberra Milk]

Anyway I won't get into the CNK debate again, just the one post only (I swear)

We all keep saying this
It's a lie

We've got 9 months of off season between now and 2022 kick off.

I'll do well to see out the bye week tbh