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Northern Raider wrote: May 10, 2021, 12:07 pm
julian87 wrote: May 10, 2021, 7:30 am
exrefhollywood wrote: May 9, 2021, 9:05 pm Sam Williams is not the answer
I don’t think so either but I’m not convinced the team wouldn’t be better in attack short term with him in the 7.
Sam Williams biggest problem his whole career was drifting out of games when you needed him to step up. Thats not the kind of fix we need right now.
I reckon we should give 'im a run.
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The Nickman wrote: May 10, 2021, 11:44 am
Lucy wrote: May 10, 2021, 11:38 am So many people suffer from Stickholm Syndrome in this place.

He is garbage. Always has been, always will be.

It's almost like Raiders fans on the whole have accepted mediocrity to the point they would rather "bleed green win loose or drawer" rather than just win.

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Who is garbage? Williams?? What **** planet are you on?
I think he means Stick is garbage.

Not sure if I'm dubbying though...
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The Nickman wrote:
Lucy wrote: May 10, 2021, 11:38 am So many people suffer from Stickholm Syndrome in this place.

He is garbage. Always has been, always will be.

It's almost like Raiders fans on the whole have accepted mediocrity to the point they would rather "bleed green win loose or drawer" rather than just win.

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Who is garbage? Williams?? What **** planet are you on?
Hahaha. You are.

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I'm not sure if people are intentionally leaking information to media. I heard about internal troubles through somebody who works directly for the club. I think the reality is that there are a lot of issues behind the scenes at the moment and the information has leaked because Canberra is a small place... more so than club officials or player managers agitating.
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Get back the Ten wrote: May 9, 2021, 4:21 pm I think when all’s said and done the new half will be Sam Williams he is under contract and he is knows the Raiders plays and if he gets homesick Cooma not that far away.


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no, we have a Williams at home
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Let GW go now. It’s only delaying the inevitable
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Yep agree. Need a general urgently though. SW is not the answer.
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Has anyone suggested using Hodgson at halfback and letting him run the show yet?

He can't be criticised for overplaying his hand from there...
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Boomercm wrote:Has anyone suggested using Hodgson at halfback and letting him run the show yet?

He can't be criticised for overplaying his hand from there...
Yes, yes I have

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-TW- wrote: May 10, 2021, 8:27 pm
Boomercm wrote:Has anyone suggested using Hodgson at halfback and letting him run the show yet?

He can't be criticised for overplaying his hand from there...
Yes, yes I have

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I thought someone would have. It's not the worst idea if George wants to go home. Josh is skillful enough and will definitely organise the attack better than Jack and/or George.
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The main issue with Hodgo to half in the past when he's filled in has been his poor lateral movement - gets along with it ok vs the big boys in the middle but he gets caught out by zippy halves and athletic 2nd rowers. And that was before his knee reco.

Similarly he's not very quick so not sure his running game would work when he can't just pick his moment vs a confounded single marker. Then again, might just be good enough to keep them honest. Not sure, he's less athletic than most halves.

I think that's why it hasn't been more on the table. In this current rut, who knows what's next though.
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That Jonneh article is an absolute kick in the guts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you'd think if he had a shred of respect for the club and their fans he would keep his trap shut because all he has done is antagonize the situation and make it worse.
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Robert the Bruce wrote: May 10, 2021, 9:23 pm That Jonneh article is an absolute kick in the guts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you'd think if he had a shred of respect for the club and their fans he would keep his trap shut because all he has done is antagonize the situation and make it worse.
I feel the same. I've always hoped he'd come back but looks like that is next to no chance. The emotion he showed after losing to the Storm in last years Prelim made me proud to support Bateman and class him as one of my favourite Raiders of all time. It is really disheartening to read those comments.
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I have absolutely no respect or time for Mr J Bateman.
The club paid a huge fee to bring him over and he backflipped on a contract.
What kind of example is he giving his daughter?
And he has allowed his dirty manager to continue to screw the club
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JB has delivered a dose of reality, and it’s well overdue…
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When JB was wearing green we expected him to be loyal to this club and wouldn’t have tolerated him prioritising his former club. Now he’s over in the UK and agitating to get his current club a handy 7 next season why do we feel we have an expectation that he should prioritise our feelings?
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Back to Wigan a done deal according to chat over here - for next season.

Apparently Wigan are waiting for Wests to announce Oliver Gildardt so they can show they're not losing players.

See Vossy's just Tweeted the same thing.
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Robert the Bruce wrote: May 10, 2021, 9:23 pm That Jonneh article is an absolute kick in the guts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you'd think if he had a shred of respect for the club and their fans he would keep his trap shut because all he has done is antagonize the situation and make it worse.
Could easily be Jonneh with the leaks, then doing an interview about them. He'd do that for a giggle
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MrPosh wrote: May 11, 2021, 7:00 am Back to Wigan a done deal according to chat over here - for next season.

Apparently Wigan are waiting for Wests to announce Oliver Gildardt so they can show they're not losing players.

See Vossy's just Tweeted the same thing.
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This year feels more like 2013 than 17/18.

Get the feeling 2021/2022 are going to be write offs.
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This might be a good thing insofar as it hasn’t dragged out.

We need to make a play for Adam Reynolds right now.

And for those who write it off as wishful thinking....is it?

His preference is to remain in Sydney but it doesn’t look like Sharks are coming to the table with the right dóllar figure, which is why the Broncos 700k x 4 year deal is in the box seat.

He will move interstate for the right dollar figure.

If money is the primary factor and proximity to Sydney is a secondary factor then I reckon if we come in with a competitive offer vis a vis Brisbane then we would be a chance.

Give it a crack Reynolds is exactly what we need.
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Sigh. Looks like it's a foregone conclusion now. What an absolute cluster this season has turned out to be.

Good luck trying to get a guy anywhere near as good from now until the end of the season.
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Mickey_Raider wrote: May 11, 2021, 8:08 am This might be a good thing insofar as it hasn’t dragged out.

We need to make a play for Adam Reynolds right now.

And for those who write it off as wishful thinking....is it?

His preference is to remain in Sydney but it doesn’t look like Sharks are coming to the table with the right dóllar figure, which is why the Broncos 700k x 4 year deal is in the box seat.

He will move interstate for the right dollar figure.

If money is the primary factor and proximity to Sydney is a secondary factor then I reckon if we come in with a competitive offer vis a vis Brisbane then we would be a chance.

Give it a crack Reynolds is exactly what we need.
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I don't think Reynolds is realistic. From all reports he's too deep into negotiations with the Sharks and Broncos, and it's now just a matter of playing them two off against each other for the best offer.

Our best bet right now is Pearce IMO. Knights only extended him for another year until the end of 2022, so I gather multi-years for him there are now out of the question. Throw 2-3 years at him and agitate the Knights for a release, which I suspect may not be too difficult to get them to do.
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Robert the Bruce wrote: May 10, 2021, 9:23 pm That Jonneh article is an absolute kick in the guts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you'd think if he had a shred of respect for the club and their fans he would keep his trap shut because all he has done is antagonize the situation and make it worse.
sorry what article
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lomax wrote: May 11, 2021, 8:39 am
Robert the Bruce wrote: May 10, 2021, 9:23 pm That Jonneh article is an absolute kick in the guts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you'd think if he had a shred of respect for the club and their fans he would keep his trap shut because all he has done is antagonize the situation and make it worse.
sorry what article
Got it you mean the John Bateman article
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Gotta be honest, he was a huge part of the 2019 GF run, but I'm really starting to have a powerful dislike for John Bateman.

The way he carried himself last season and now all of this stuff which is not necessary...

What a disaster. We'll be outside of the eight for the next few years.
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afgtnk wrote: May 11, 2021, 8:31 am I don't think Reynolds is realistic. From all reports he's too deep into negotiations with the Sharks and Broncos, and it's now just a matter of playing them two off against each other for the best offer.

Our best bet right now is Pearce IMO. Knights only extended him for another year until the end of 2022, so I gather multi-years for him there are now out of the question. Throw 2-3 years at him and agitate the Knights for a release, which I suspect may not be too difficult to get them to do.
I promise you now, the GH collective would HATE the Mitchell Pearce era of Raiders football :lol:
But given the options available, i kind of agree he's probably as good as we can hope for if we're trying to keep this train running

Otherwise i think the club's best bet is scout the juniors hard, get our version of Walsh for the Warriors or Burton for the Dogs... take that sort of swing on a super high pedigree guy whos progress may be road blocked or at a club that isnt run well
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The Dragons debuted players out of their SG Ball Grand Final losing team on the weekend. Our boys beat them twice this year - who do we have there that could be accelerated? Is there a halfback coming?
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Reynolds is not realistic..
Broncos will overpay and can throw more third party money at him if he chooses to leave Sydney...Sharks are best placed.

We need to find the next young play maker and develop some youth together in the backline....painful short term, but its the correct thing to do...

We don't have the cattle to deal with Penrith and Melbourne right now, so why torch our cap for nothing...

The club needs some long term thinking and vision...you can see the Roosters are doing the exact same thing with the young group they are bringing through now and in a few years it will pay off.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but, Anthony Milford?
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360 were saying this morning its a relatively simple case of Wigan are losing Hastings to the Tigers, and the club wants G Willy and are stirring the pot
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cat wrote: May 10, 2021, 10:03 pm I have absolutely no respect or time for Mr J Bateman.
The club paid a huge fee to bring him over and he backflipped on a contract.
What kind of example is he giving his daughter?
And he has allowed his dirty manager to continue to screw the club
The example and lesson he's giving his daughter is to understand the business your in and how that business treats it's employee's, and act accordingly in your own best interests. Always do what is in your heart and what you feel is best for your family.

Very big of you to highlight this and what a wonderful example he's setting for his daughter.
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Green Blogger wrote: May 11, 2021, 9:36 am The Dragons debuted players out of their SG Ball Grand Final losing team on the weekend. Our boys beat them twice this year - who do we have there that could be accelerated? Is there a halfback coming?
Brad Schneider is the most likely half, he's playing with the NSW Cup team, but I doubt he's ready for NRL. Sione Moala was the SG Ball half this year, and he's very good, but we'd want to see him tested over some time at NSW Cup level. He's not a player I'd say... yep, definite first grader. But then halves take a fair while to develop. In any case, Moala suffered a serious ankle injury in the Grand Final. It is not like we have a Sam Walker ready to roll.

The SG Ball players who are most likely to be accelerated are probably forwards. Caleb Esera, Trey Mooney, Jayden Clarkson (still injured), Clay Webb. Xavier Savage the most likely back, has lots of speed, but I'd want to see how he goes in defence at higher levels.
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