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hobbsy wrote:
Raider Azz wrote: April 16, 2021, 7:13 am
hobbsy wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:28 am I honestly do not get the hate for Luai at all. He just seems like a chilled out nice dude. Following his social media and it looks like a lot of Raiders players feel the same way.
Have you seen him play? He is a massive pest on the field.
Yeah he's a gun.

But honestly for me I take way more stock in how a player conducts themselves off the field when it comes to who I 'hate'. This is rugby league not golf, people being grubby or pests is pretty commonplace. There would be quite a few Raiders players people on here would have to hate as well if that was the only factor.
Fair enough if that's how you feel, but don't be shocked that a guy carrying on like he does on the field attracts plenty of hate.

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Raider Azz wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:30 am
hobbsy wrote:
Raider Azz wrote: April 16, 2021, 7:13 am
hobbsy wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:28 am I honestly do not get the hate for Luai at all. He just seems like a chilled out nice dude. Following his social media and it looks like a lot of Raiders players feel the same way.
Have you seen him play? He is a massive pest on the field.
Yeah he's a gun.

But honestly for me I take way more stock in how a player conducts themselves off the field when it comes to who I 'hate'. This is rugby league not golf, people being grubby or pests is pretty commonplace. There would be quite a few Raiders players people on here would have to hate as well if that was the only factor.
Fair enough if that's how you feel, but don't be shocked that a guy carrying on like he does on the field attracts plenty of hate.

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I suppose I shouldn't be, but it definitely comes across as salty when its only the good players who have beaten us that are attracting it.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:29 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:24 am Hahahaha no chance, cat.

Mickey, your application is under review and you should get a formal response within the next 24-48 hours.
Hang on. When my application went in I was told 20 business days. :x
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
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The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:50 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:29 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:24 am Hahahaha no chance, cat.

Mickey, your application is under review and you should get a formal response within the next 24-48 hours.
Hang on. When my application went in I was told 20 business days. :x
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
But I lodged it last July. :(
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Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:20 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:50 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:29 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:24 am Hahahaha no chance, cat.

Mickey, your application is under review and you should get a formal response within the next 24-48 hours.
Hang on. When my application went in I was told 20 business days. :x
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
But I lodged it last July. :(
Give it a couple more weeks.
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The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:28 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:20 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:50 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:29 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:24 am Hahahaha no chance, cat.

Mickey, your application is under review and you should get a formal response within the next 24-48 hours.
Hang on. When my application went in I was told 20 business days. :x
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
But I lodged it last July. :(
Give it a couple more weeks.
Should I check back in or wait to be contacted?
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Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:30 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:28 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:20 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:50 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:29 am
Hang on. When my application went in I was told 20 business days. :x
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
But I lodged it last July. :(
Give it a couple more weeks.
Should I check back in or wait to be contacted?
Just wait near the mailbox.
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The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:31 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:30 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:28 am
Northern Raider wrote: April 16, 2021, 9:20 am
The Nickman wrote: April 16, 2021, 8:50 am
It's still being processed. Be patient, ****.
But I lodged it last July. :(
Give it a couple more weeks.
Should I check back in or wait to be contacted?
Just wait near the mailbox.
THanks mate. Will do. :thumbsup
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hobbsy wrote:I honestly do not get the hate for Luai at all. He just seems like a chilled out nice dude. Following his social media and it looks like a lot of Raiders players feel the same way.
Pettiness.

That's all it is.

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Lucy wrote: April 15, 2021, 7:41 pm They have lost one game in 20 weeks and that was a grand
That last point is important and one worth remembering, but mostly one worth reminding all the Penrith fans in your life

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Yeah, the whinging about the handshake celebration personifies our fan base tbh

Bunch of whingers

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Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart calls on NRL to stamp out melees



Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says melees are a blight on the game and it is time that the NRL did something about it.

In last Friday night's game between Penrith and Canberra, a melee broke out on the sideline, after fullback Stephen Crichton tried to drag Raiders lock Joe Tapine into a Panthers try celebration. Tapine was simply standing on the sideline waiting to be injected into the match at the time.

Crichton was fined $1350 over the incident by the NRL, while the Raiders have received notice of a $10,000 because of the incidental involvement of a Raiders trainer in the melee. The trainer touched two Panthers players, Tyrone May and James Fisher-Harris, which is contrary to NRL rules.

The arrogant behaviour of the Panthers attracted considerable media criticism this week, but Penrith coach Ivan Cleary says he does not see any problem and called the media reaction "a storm in a tea cup".

"I’m just a bit confused as to what’s the problem. I don’t really know," Cleary said earlier this week.

The response of Raiders CEO Don Furner to that was scathing.

"Ivan Cleary should teach his players some humility. We all understand coaches stand up for their players, but him trying to justify that behaviour is ludicrous," Furner said.

"He has three or four players in his team that carry on like mug lairs. Their five-eighth has been pushing players in the back and running in as the third man for a while now."

"I can’t believe that is the example the Panthers want to set for young kids watching and playing the game. If they think that behaviour is acceptable they are kidding themselves."

Raiders coach Ricky Stuart today backed Furner's comments.

"I think Don handled it very well. He covered it off really well during the week," Stuart said.

"I think it was unnecessary and I thought silly. I think that this jumper pulling and grabbing blokes by the back of the jumper and trying to pull them out of melees is a blight on the game."

"It's ugly. It makes soft people very tough, because you know you're not going to get a punch in the head. There's no consequences."

"You've got guys who are not that courageous acting very tough going into a melee now knowing the fact he's not going to get a punch in the mouth, which is why so many people fly into it."

"I laughed watching it... when our physio got pushed out of the way, Jack Wighton came into the melee then to sort it out and settle it all down."

"A lot of egos that were in that melee were deflated very quickly. It soon quitened it down."

"You don't find tough kids walking into these melees and pulling and pushing jumpers. If you're a good pusher now, you're tough apparently."

"It's a blight on our game. I just wish the league could do something about it and eradicate it. It was only four or five years ago that I was saying it was ugly in Aussie Rules and now we've got it."

Stuart says he was very proud of the way Tapine responded. Tapine did not lash out and simply tried to extricate himself from the group of Panthers players who descended upon him.

"I was very proud of how Joe Tapine handled that," Stuart said.

"One on one, I know whose side I'd like to be on in an altercation there."

"The amount of work that's gone into Joe with controlling his aggression and controlling his emotions... I was very proud of him how he handled that moment because it could have been very ugly."

"I'm not sure I could have handled it the same way Joe did."

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VIDEO: Ricky Stuart says melees are a blight on the game: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2021/04 ... ve-niggle/

VIDEO: Stuart stands by Raiders over Panthers melee: https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/04/16/stu ... ers-melee/
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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 12:35 pm Yeah, the whinging about the handshake celebration personifies our fan base tbh

Bunch of whingers

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If you and Nickman honestly don't think that other fanbases whinge and whine with their obvious biases then you have your head in the sand.

It really is quite mild tbh. Especially when one or two comments somehow manage to epitomise a whole fan base according to the likes of Nickman.
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Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
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Raider47 wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:19 pm Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
It doesn't. Ricky Stuart's still talking about it today... understandably, as it is the first time he's faced the media since the NRL issued the club with an unjustified $10000 fine... for an incident started by the Panthers. I dare say no one would call Ricky Stuart a sook... It's simply people supporting their club, given that others are treating our club poorly.
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Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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I called them smug wankers once when presented with stimulus indicating such and then proceeded to not give them a second thought for the rest of my day and indeed week.

Does that meet the TW sookiness threshold? Seems pretty passive to me
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Raider47 wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:39 pm
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 12:35 pm Yeah, the whinging about the handshake celebration personifies our fan base tbh

Bunch of whingers

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If you and Nickman honestly don't think that other fanbases whinge and whine with their obvious biases then you have your head in the sand.

It really is quite mild tbh. Especially when one or two comments somehow manage to epitomise a whole fan base according to the likes of Nickman.
Boy, there's a lot being said in this post that was never actually said by me or Timmy!
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Mickey_Raider wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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I called them smug wankers once when presented with stimulus indicating such and then proceeded to not give them a second thought for the rest of my day and indeed week.

Does that meet the TW sookiness threshold? Seems pretty passive to me
Smug is fair, and it's an observation, not a judgement

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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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Whoever said that was spot on! Because the Panthers were carrying on last night about it! That's not whinging. That's simply fair and reasonable observation about what was happening.
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greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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Whoever said that was spot on! Because the Panthers were carrying on last night about it! That's not whinging. That's simply fair and reasonable observation about what was happening.
Nah, that's whinging

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I haven't cried since I was doing long division and I had a remainder left over.
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zim wrote: April 16, 2021, 3:54 pm I haven't cried since I was doing long division and I had a remainder left over.
You also cried when you scraped your knee and they were out of chocolate milk.
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hobbsy wrote: April 16, 2021, 6:28 am I honestly do not get the hate for Luai at all. He just seems like a chilled out nice dude. Following his social media and it looks like a lot of Raiders players feel the same way.
So you did not see when he stomped on someone's head?
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We've now gotten to imaginary head stomping levels of salty bitterness.

This forum is all lols.

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It wasn't Wighton entering the fray that broke it up, it was Papa.
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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 3:54 pm
greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 1:50 pm Noone is that naive.

But the fact people are still blowing up about this a week later, and are whinging about actions in ANOTHER game shows how sooky this fan base is

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A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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Whoever said that was spot on! Because the Panthers were carrying on last night about it! That's not whinging. That's simply fair and reasonable observation about what was happening.
Nah, that's whinging

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I'm sure that person could have used that term interchangably with the one Don Furner used... "mug lairs"... and endorsed by Ricky Stuart today. I'm sure they'd be happy to stand by Don and Ricky on it.

I don't see the persistent need of some posters to keep telling others that they have to support the team in the way they would like. Sure, meet the standards of the site, but I do not understand why some posters insist on telling others "how to fan".

And for someone who doesn't seem to like "whinging", you seem to do a lot of whinging about what you see as the whinging.
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Melees making 'soft' people look tough: Ricky Stuart

In an unveiled swipe at the Penrith Panthers, Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says melees are a blight on the game that are making soft people look tough because they know they're not going to get a punch in the mouth.

The Raiders were issued with a breach notice for $10,000 after their physiotherapist touched two Penrith players during the melee - despite multiple cases of trainers and physios touching players involved in melees going unpunished this season already.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart calls on NRL to stamp out melees: viewtopic.php?p=1788323#p1788323

‘Makes soft people very tough’: Ricky Stuart condemns ‘ugly’ NRL trend: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-2608579

No biff could ironically bring back the biff to the NRL: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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greeneyed wrote: April 16, 2021, 5:14 pm
The Raiders were issued with a breach notice for $10,000 after their physiotherapist touched two Penrith players during the melee - despite multiple cases of trainers and physios touching players involved in melees going unpunished this season already.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about this...
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Re: Canberra Raiders fume over $10,000 fine for trainer

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greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 3:54 pm
greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm
Raider47 wrote: A lot of this 'sookiness' has originated from the likes of Paul Kent, James Hooper, Crawley making a big deal of it in the media. Or journalists poking the bear for comments from players. I think questioning the 10k fine is pretty acceptable too.

Most of what I see on the GH is just people calling Panthers arrogant and infuriating. Hardly call it sooking. Why does making note of a team for their persona automatically translate to sookiness? Why does questioning anything automatically make you a sook?
Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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Whoever said that was spot on! Because the Panthers were carrying on last night about it! That's not whinging. That's simply fair and reasonable observation about what was happening.
Nah, that's whinging

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I'm sure that person could have used that term interchangably with the one Don Furner used... "mug lairs"... and endorsed by Ricky Stuart today. I'm sure they'd be happy to stand by Don and Ricky on it.

I don't see the persistent need of some posters to keep telling others that they have to support the team in the way they would like. Sure, meet the standards of the site, but I do not understand why some posters insist on telling others "how to fan".

And for someone who doesn't seem to like "whinging", you seem to do a lot of whinging about what you see as the whinging.
Keep yelling into the sooky echo chamber, pal

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Re: Canberra Raiders fume over $10,000 fine for trainer

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Lucy wrote: April 16, 2021, 4:50 pm We've now gotten to imaginary head stomping levels of salty bitterness.

This forum is all lols.

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Re: Canberra Raiders fume over $10,000 fine for trainer

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-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 5:29 pm
greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 3:54 pm
greeneyed wrote:
-TW- wrote: April 16, 2021, 2:52 pm Never mentioned questioning the decision at all. Calling Penrith players "dicks" cause of their try celebration, is what I am referring to.

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Whoever said that was spot on! Because the Panthers were carrying on last night about it! That's not whinging. That's simply fair and reasonable observation about what was happening.
Nah, that's whinging

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I'm sure that person could have used that term interchangably with the one Don Furner used... "mug lairs"... and endorsed by Ricky Stuart today. I'm sure they'd be happy to stand by Don and Ricky on it.

I don't see the persistent need of some posters to keep telling others that they have to support the team in the way they would like. Sure, meet the standards of the site, but I do not understand why some posters insist on telling others "how to fan".

And for someone who doesn't seem to like "whinging", you seem to do a lot of whinging about what you see as the whinging.
Keep yelling into the sooky echo chamber, pal

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Dude you’re sooking about GE sooking.

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