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Canberra Raiders V Cronulla Sharks
Sunday March 21 6:15pm
Kogarah Jubilee Stadium
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The Canberra Raiders meet the Cronulla Sharks in Round 2 at Kogarah Jubilee Stadium in the worst time slot of the week: Sunday night. It is possible Jarrod Croker will be available for the game, but he might not be cleared to return until Round 4. Corey Horsburgh will be available after serving a one match suspension.

So who would you like to see line up for the Green Machine in Round 2? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Bailey Simonsson
3. Sebastian Kris
4. Curtis Scott
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Dunamis Lui
11. Hudson Young
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Sia Soliola
17. Ryan James

18. Sam Williams
19. Tom Starling
20. Emre Guler
21. Harley Smith-Shields

Injury/Suspension

Jarrod Croker, Shoulder (Rd 3-4)
Corey Harawira-Naera, Suspended (Rd 3)

Cronulla Sharks

1. Will Kennedy
2. Sione Katoa
3. Josh Dugan
4. Mawene Hiroti
5. Ronaldo Mulitalo
6. Matt Moylan
7. Chad Townsend
8. Braden Hamlin-Uele
9. Blayke Brailey
10. Aaron Woods
11. Briton Nikora
12. Wade Graham
13. Toby Rudolf

14. Connor Tracey
15. Aiden Tolman
16. Jack Williams
17. Billy Magoulias

18. Nene Macdonald
19. Teig Wilton
20. Andrew Fifita
21. Braydon Trindall

Injury/Suspension

Royce Hunt, Knee (Rd 3)
Siosifa Talakai, Shoulder (Rd 3)
Jesse Ramien, Suspended (Rd 5)
Shaun Johnson, Achilles (Rd 7-8)
Jack A Williams, Throat (Indefinite)

Officials

Referee: Chris Sutton
Touch judges: Matt Noyen, Dave Munro
Video referee: Chris Butler

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1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Kris
4. Scott
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Papalii
9. Hodgo
10. Sutton
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. James
17. Horsburgh/HSS

Sia and Lui unlucky to lose their spots but I just think Guler and Hors offer more upside. HSS is there as injury cover or at worst a late injection into left centre with Kris roaming around the middle. Jeez it’s hard to pick this side.

I do expect Stick to name the same team as the Tigers game and to be honest I can’t blame him and I’d be quite happy with it. This is just my take.


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Same team that beat the Sharks in round 20 last year

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CNK
Simonsson
Kris
Scott
Rapana
Wighton
G Williams
Papalii
Hodgson
Lui
Young
Whitehead
Tapine

Havili
Timoko/HSS/Valemei
Sutton
James

Sia very unlucky as I thought he was very solid, but we're one middle too many atm. CHN to the edge as soon as he has served his time, Young to the bench as a middle where he belongs for now.
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Does anyone know why Lui only had 17 minutes this week? Did he go off injured? Otherwise I don't feel why you would change that team. It looked a bit underdone but they game good at the end, just need to work on our attack a bit.
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Same team that beat the Tigers!
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Same team that beat the tigers.
With the speed of the ruck I’d like to see starling on the bench.
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Ultima wrote:Does anyone know why Lui only had 17 minutes this week? Did he go off injured? Otherwise I don't feel why you would change that team. It looked a bit underdone but they game good at the end, just need to work on our attack a bit.
I presume it was because we didn’t have any injuries in the forwards or a need for a second stint from a player other than Tapine and Papa.
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I can’t see Ricky changing the team, which is fair enough.
However I do think our bench should have Starling for variation.
The guys on the outside will have to earn the call up, unless there are injuries or Ricky is planning to play on rotation.
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Danaman137 wrote: March 14, 2021, 9:57 pm 1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Kris
4. Scott
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Papalii
9. Hodgo
10. Sutton
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. James
17. Horsburgh/HSS

Sia and Lui unlucky to lose their spots but I just think Guler and Hors offer more upside. HSS is there as injury cover or at worst a late injection into left centre with Kris roaming around the middle. Jeez it’s hard to pick this side.

I do expect Stick to name the same team as the Tigers game and to be honest I can’t blame him and I’d be quite happy with it. This is just my take.


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Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
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1992 wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:44 am Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
Weird comment to make after the game we just had.
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The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:46 am
1992 wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:44 am Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
Weird comment to make after the game we just had.
fox commentators praising our line speed at length too
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simo wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:17 am
The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:46 am
1992 wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:44 am Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
Weird comment to make after the game we just had.
fox commentators praising our line speed at length too
Like you said yesterday, at times I genuinely feel like I'm watching a different game than a lot of the GH's most faithful.
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I predict Croker to 3, Kris to bench in place of Sutton, Horsburgh 18th man. It would be tough on Sutton, but that just how it be for our middles, any that drop out will get another go soon enough.

Alternatively, if Croker could use more conditioning, Kris can hold his own. Horsie may be named ahead of Sutton

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The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:27 am
simo wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:17 am
The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:46 am
1992 wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:44 am Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
Weird comment to make after the game we just had.
fox commentators praising our line speed at length too
Like you said yesterday, at times I genuinely feel like I'm watching a different game than a lot of the GH's most faithful.
as sid rolls in wanting to drop sutton after he was our best prop yesterday. its really confusing
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I don’t want to drop any of our props, but I want an outside back on the bench for the purpose of team dynamics if Croker is going to be named at centre. With everyone fit, Lui played 17 minutes and at the same time we nearly had Havilii come on as a replacement for a injured winger in the first half.

If all our middles remain injury free, then I think there is going to be a rotation policy of sorts. Sutton was a great injection for his 38 minutes, I could be wrong but perhaps the more older, experienced players will not be taking a rest for round 2.
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simo wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:47 am
The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:27 am
simo wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:17 am
The Nickman wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:46 am
1992 wrote: March 15, 2021, 10:44 am Who ever is named I just want line speed for a change.

Every team starts better than us and it will be costly in the end.
Weird comment to make after the game we just had.
fox commentators praising our line speed at length too
Like you said yesterday, at times I genuinely feel like I'm watching a different game than a lot of the GH's most faithful.
as sid rolls in wanting to drop sutton after he was our best prop yesterday. its really confusing
Hahaha it really is. I guess that's the "problem" with our incredible depth this season... we're going to get some pretty hot takes.
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Sid wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:58 am I don’t want to drop any of our props, but I want an outside back on the bench for the purpose of team dynamics if Croker is going to be named at centre. With everyone fit, Lui played 18 minutes and at the same time we nearly had Havilii come on as a replacement for a injured winger in the first half.
but why is your answer to drop the best performer? a player with ability to cover extended minutes anytime its called on? its not that i dont agree we need better cover for injury, it just doesnt make sense to drop sutton for it
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Sutton will not be dropped, that is a strange one isn't it.
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Dropping Sutton is one of the best things I've ever seen, and won't happen.

Ricky openly praised him in the presser saying he's easy to pick cause you know what you get from him

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I thought we started well....It was our execution in the final 20 that was the problem. We weren't particularly patient, which has been a problem for a few seasons.
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Ultima wrote: March 15, 2021, 12:56 am Does anyone know why Lui only had 17 minutes this week? Did he go off injured? Otherwise I don't feel why you would change that team. It looked a bit underdone but they game good at the end, just need to work on our attack a bit.
I thought it was punishment for the error he made. Ricky looked pissed when it happened
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Can't see Sutton dropped based on his performance and Ricky's comments in the presser...
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Oh Mal,
My comment was much more about wanting to to add Kris to the bench when Croker is going to be named to start at centre. Someone would have to eventually make way if that were to happen though, oh, let’s say... Moe.

We have crazy middle depth right now. Even if we run with a bench full of forwards again it will mean 2 very good forwards are going to miss out. Guler and Horsburgh are both available to play in round 2, neither played in the win against the Tigers. There are going to be weeks where we’re going to have middles miss out on a first grade spot that would make the top 17 of any other club, it’s a beautiful problem to have, particularly when none are clouded by injury and suspension.

At the same time if we run with bench full of forwards when Croker does come back to the starting side, that means, fully fit, our reserve grade side have Kris, HSS, Timoko, Valemei and Hopoate all as options to play at centre/wing and one of those won’t play reserve grade.
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Id drop Liu (considering he only got 17 mins) for Sutton, then bring in CHN. I'd possibly also bring in Starling for Havili.
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If Croker is ready, he'll come in for Kris and i expect the rest of the team to go unchanged
If Croker isnt ready, i expect the team to go unchanged
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Sid wrote: March 15, 2021, 11:58 am I don’t want to drop any of our props, but I want an outside back on the bench for the purpose of team dynamics if Croker is going to be named at centre. With everyone fit, Lui played 18 minutes and at the same time we nearly had Havilii come on as a replacement for a injured winger in the first half.
but why is your answer to drop the best performer? a player with ability to cover extended minutes anytime its called on? its not that i dont agree we need better cover for injury, it just doesnt make sense to drop sutton for it
A fair question and a much of a muchness really. I don’t like when someone says they want player X to play, yet don’t offer up a name on who has to drop out for that to happen. In my case, wanting an outside back on the bench when Croker is fit to return.

Reason I offered up Sutton’s name out of any was not to rubbish him. It was also less to do with form and more to do with NRL experience and leadership. It’s ideal that we have guys like Sutton to step up from the start of the season and have the kind of form that can apply pressure for a spot to leaders that have played rep games, more NRL first grade games and have the kind of stature that they do. We also have Red who a number of experts have earmarked to play origin in the near future on the outside looking in, it’s a great place to be in.
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Jesus, I didn't realise how much Sid just irrationally hates Sutton.
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Yep, Stuart isn't touching that lineup.

If Croker was 120% fit and Stuart wanted him back in, then I would put Kris on the bench in place of Soliola, but that's not going to happen.
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The Nickman wrote:Jesus, I didn't realise how much Sid just irrationally hates Sutton.
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I wouldn't drop any of the forwards if they are performing.
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You don’t drop players after a solid win when no one played badly. It leads to players starting to worry about being dropped for little reason, over playing their hand or being selfish in games.

Sounds like Ricky picked the team for the first round based on last years performance, raw ability, who trained the hardest and who didn’t get into trouble off field in the off season.

Those outside guys will have to play themselves into the team when injury, form and player rest give them an opportunity to prove themselves. They definitely will get an opportunity sometime soon.
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SHE CANAE ACCAMMADATE SO MANY MIDDLES CAP'N
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