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Hong Kong Raider wrote: May 12, 2021, 12:25 am Really concerned about our recruitment for 2022. Xavier Coates has gone to Melbourne, Stagg is staying, Naden to Canterbury, even Wests have signed Oliver Gildart from Wigan, meaning Joey and/or Jimmy the Jet will get the flick. We need an outside back. Broncos, Cronulla, and Canterbury seem to be linked to everyone.

Regarding a half, Burton looks good at centre, decent kicking game - replacement for GWilliams if we convince him not to take the Flanagan route. I really hope we can keep George.

Hope our juniors kick on as well.
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GreenMachine wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:14 am
simo wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:04 am
GreenMachine wrote: May 14, 2021, 10:59 am Jayden Su'a is an option if we think Tapine isn't going to be around long term...
hes an option anyway. we need a better edge backrower
I agree.
He will be a Bunny or a Bronco
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Botman wrote: May 11, 2021, 9:44 pm yeah i really like the idea of Hynes
We can move CNK to a wing/centre spot

and he provides ball playing which is sorely needed with what we're looking at in the halves without Gwilly... thats the move i think we are in desperate need to make.
I like Hynes or Hoy as a FB option, esp Hoy as he is a GKer. Would mean a shift for CNK, to wing or centre. I want to see HSS and Kris in FG next yr too.
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I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
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Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Shock horror.
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Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Why?
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Because he doesn't like the Knights.
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Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 1:20 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Why?
What does he do that's exceptional?
He's not overly quick, he's not a particularly good ball player, he's not a particularly dangerous ball runner.
He's an ok with his defensive contact, decent enough positionally and relatively safe.
There is just nothing exciting about him. He's just a solid, tries his guts out, middle to bottom rank sort of fullback.
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Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:28 pm
Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 1:20 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Why?
What does he do that's exceptional?
He's not overly quick, he's not a particularly good ball player, he's not a particularly dangerous ball runner.
He's an ok with his defensive contact, decent enough positionally and relatively safe.
There is just nothing exciting about him. He's just a solid, tries his guts out, middle to bottom rank sort of fullback.
Whats the difference between him and Hynes?
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Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:50 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:28 pm
Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 1:20 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Why?
What does he do that's exceptional?
He's not overly quick, he's not a particularly good ball player, he's not a particularly dangerous ball runner.
He's an ok with his defensive contact, decent enough positionally and relatively safe.
There is just nothing exciting about him. He's just a solid, tries his guts out, middle to bottom rank sort of fullback.
Whats the difference between him and Hynes?
Hynes can add something that CNK and Hoy cant. Significant ball playing abilities.
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Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:54 pm
Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:50 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 2:28 pm
Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 1:20 pm
Botman wrote: May 14, 2021, 11:38 am I don’t rate Hoy at all
Pass for me
Why?
What does he do that's exceptional?
He's not overly quick, he's not a particularly good ball player, he's not a particularly dangerous ball runner.
He's an ok with his defensive contact, decent enough positionally and relatively safe.
There is just nothing exciting about him. He's just a solid, tries his guts out, middle to bottom rank sort of fullback.
Whats the difference between him and Hynes?
Hynes can add something that CNK and Hoy cant. Significant ball playing abilities.
Im still not totally sold Hoy cant do it, but doing it in a worse side, means less chance. He was much better with ball in hand last yr than early this yr. Hoy was good when the Knights were, and not so good when they stunk.

Hynes has always been in a good side.
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Hoy has been hyped up for a couple of seasons now. I've not seen anything to justify the hype.
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Matt wrote: May 14, 2021, 3:19 pm Im still not totally sold Hoy cant do it, but doing it in a worse side, means less chance. He was much better with ball in hand last yr than early this yr. Hoy was good when the Knights were, and not so good when they stunk.

Hynes has always been in a good side.
Hoy's still young. Maybe he can do it. But im with NR. A lot of hype but little to show for it in FG so far.

Hynes, in a good team or not, we've seen him ball play at an extremely high level. Is he going to be that effective in a team that isn't as good as Melbourne? Probably not. But at least we've seen something from him that theoretically he can add to us. I havent seen that with Hoy.

If im replacing CNK at fullback, and assuming the replacement isnt a do it all established star i want to do be one of those archetypes

1) A guy with excellent speed, noted support player and above average ball playing for the position, the sacrifice there is likely not as stout defensively. I.E Duffty
2) A guy who's going to give us most of what CNK does defensively, but with significant upgrades as a ball player. Speed and elite footwork being the sacrifice. I.E Hynes
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Watching Hynes last week I made the comment to my mates that he was too good to be sitting behind Papenhuysen. Needs to leave Melbourne for an opportunity. Watching Hoy at Knights it's been the opposite. Comments are more like "bet they can't wait to get Ponga back".
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All this debate around fullbacks, I highly doubt Ricky is moving CNK away from that position...

Our best would be adding strike and speed around the 2-5 positions and getting a halfback who can organise and ball play...

The likelihood is we do nothing...
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I'm cheering for a dogs win tomorrow.. Ricky has already ruined our season.. now let's hope he ruins his coaching career too
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radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 4:19 pm I'm cheering for a dogs win tomorrow.. Ricky has already ruined our season.. now let's hope he ruins his coaching career too
Agree, but unfortunately he won’t go even if we lose every game from now on.
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sprintman wrote: May 14, 2021, 4:25 pm
radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 4:19 pm I'm cheering for a dogs win tomorrow.. Ricky has already ruined our season.. now let's hope he ruins his coaching career too
Agree, but unfortunately he won’t go even if we lose every game from now on.
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The Canberra Raiders board decides who the Canberra Raiders coach is.
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Bennett and Bellamy both available enough for next year

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hypothetically we lose Tapine, George, Hodgson and Croker in 2022 that's what 2.4m?
Brandon Smith?
Jayden Sua?
Cotric?
A decent half?
Surely we could buy 2 needle moving players

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Is Tyson Gamble off contract?
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Yep. I suggested him earlier as a cheaper option solely on his hustle.
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zim wrote:Yep. I suggested him earlier as a cheaper option solely on his hustle.
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bonehead wrote:hypothetically we lose Tapine, George, Hodgson and Croker in 2022 that's what 2.4m?
Brandon Smith?
Jayden Sua?
Cotric?
A decent half?
Surely we could buy 2 needle moving players

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Tapine set to be a chook
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radicalraider wrote:Tapine set to be a chook
Still haven't seen this anywhere other than here

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VictorTheViking wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:56 pm
radicalraider wrote:Tapine set to be a chook
Still haven't seen this anywhere other than here

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VictorTheViking wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:56 pm
radicalraider wrote:Tapine set to be a chook
Still haven't seen this anywhere other than here

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No one’s that desperate for evidence
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radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:46 pm Tapine set to be a chook
If you’re going to post things like this, you must post a link, so people can assess the reliability of it. It’s a requirement of the site guidelines. This is the source:

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Joseph Tapine will be playing for the Roosters next season and potentially could up at Bondi this year if the Raiders continue to struggle and his relationship with Ricky Stuart continues to deteriorate. It is believed he has already inked a deal for 2022.

Read more: https://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/nrl/f ... l-round-9/

I don’t regard that as a reputable source.
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How often does a story that confident turn out to be Bull regardless of source trashiness. I’d say very rarely.
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greeneyed wrote: May 14, 2021, 9:52 pm
radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:46 pm Tapine set to be a chook
If you’re going to post things like this, you must post a link, so people can assess the reliability of it. It’s a requirement of the site guidelines. This is the source:

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Joseph Tapine will be playing for the Roosters next season and potentially could up at Bondi this year if the Raiders continue to struggle and his relationship with Ricky Stuart continues to deteriorate. It is believed he has already inked a deal for 2022.

Read more: https://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/nrl/f ... l-round-9/

I don’t regard that as a reputable source.
He is currently contracted with us til the end of 2023 so he can't have already signed anywhere for 2022.

He could still leave the club at the end of the year but only if we agreed to grant him a release.
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greeneyed wrote: May 14, 2021, 9:52 pm
radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:46 pm Tapine set to be a chook
If you’re going to post things like this, you must post a link, so people can assess the reliability of it. It’s a requirement of the site guidelines. This is the source:

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Joseph Tapine will be playing for the Roosters next season and potentially could up at Bondi this year if the Raiders continue to struggle and his relationship with Ricky Stuart continues to deteriorate. It is believed he has already inked a deal for 2022.

Read more: https://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/nrl/f ... l-round-9/

I don’t regard that as a reputable source.
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Mod note: Unless you have a link to a reputable mainstream media for something like this... it breaches forum guidelines.
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Roy Rover wrote: May 14, 2021, 10:07 pm
greeneyed wrote: May 14, 2021, 9:52 pm
radicalraider wrote: May 14, 2021, 8:46 pm Tapine set to be a chook
If you’re going to post things like this, you must post a link, so people can assess the reliability of it. It’s a requirement of the site guidelines. This is the source:

Rumour Mill

Joseph Tapine will be playing for the Roosters next season and potentially could up at Bondi this year if the Raiders continue to struggle and his relationship with Ricky Stuart continues to deteriorate. It is believed he has already inked a deal for 2022.

Read more: https://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/nrl/f ... l-round-9/

I don’t regard that as a reputable source.
He is currently contracted with us til the end of 2023 so he can't have already signed anywhere for 2022.

He could still leave the club at the end of the year but only if we agreed to grant him a release.
And why would we? It is a ridiculous "story".
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