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Kikau always targets outside backs when running his hard lines. It works well.

Would not want him here and we do not need him.

I still wonder if we could have gotten Reynolds if the club acknowledged the Williams situation earlier.
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1992 wrote: September 9, 2021, 12:53 pm Kikau always targets outside backs when running his hard lines. It works well.

Would not want him here and we do not need him.

I still wonder if we could have gotten Reynolds if the club acknowledged the Williams situation earlier.
Except for that time he demolished John Bateman
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BadnMean wrote: September 9, 2021, 1:31 pm
1992 wrote: September 9, 2021, 12:53 pm Kikau always targets outside backs when running his hard lines. It works well.

Would not want him here and we do not need him.

I still wonder if we could have gotten Reynolds if the club acknowledged the Williams situation earlier.
Except for that time he demolished John Bateman
Or when an illegal tackle ruled one of our most important players out for 20 weeks with no repercussions.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote: September 9, 2021, 1:58 pm


Or when an illegal tackle ruled one of our most important players out for 20 weeks with no repercussions.
Pretty sure CNK had a pre existing injury and the hit wasn't that much. I can see how fans want that to be the narrative of that tackle but I think it's a long bow to draw.
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Wowzers
Kikau would be a great pick up

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Who posted that there are zero chances of any of these "linked players" actually coming?

I suspect it's the start of a long 2 months and that poster is correct.
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Dusty wrote: September 9, 2021, 4:41 pm Wowzers
Kikau would be a great pick up

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Except let's start Tapine and Papalii at prop, CHN over Young (crazy selection to put Young ahead of CHN) and never play a third prop in the lock position under this format...
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Do we need a prop and a blast from the past ? Just kidding
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Hong Kong Raider wrote: September 9, 2021, 6:53 pm Do we need a prop and a blast from the past ? Just kidding
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I liked Joey as a player, and in a sense we havent really replaced the skillset he posessed at his best, but I think the juice was squeezed out of him by the time he left. I don't see a first grade career in Joeys future.
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NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED BJ WITH THE BALL....
What about D?
What about motor?
What about effort?
What about consistency?
Errors or brain farts, etc?
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julian87 wrote:
BadnMean wrote: September 9, 2021, 1:31 pm
1992 wrote: September 9, 2021, 12:53 pm Kikau always targets outside backs when running his hard lines. It works well.

Would not want him here and we do not need him.

I still wonder if we could have gotten Reynolds if the club acknowledged the Williams situation earlier.
Except for that time he demolished John Bateman
Or when an illegal tackle ruled one of our most important players out for 20 weeks with no repercussions.
That tackle wasn't causing a neck injury that severe

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How can you say that for sure? Sometimes you get injured from completely innocuous stuff if you just get the wrong angle that focuses force in an odd place etc.
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Matt wrote:NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED BJ WITH THE BALL....
What about D?
What about motor?
What about effort?
What about consistency?
Errors or brain farts, etc?
Gotta love Beej, he's got just a touch too much crazy

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gangrenous wrote: September 10, 2021, 7:38 am How can you say that for sure? Sometimes you get injured from completely innocuous stuff if you just get the wrong angle that focuses force in an odd place etc.
Cannot be said for sure but probability was that he sustained the injury prior. Commentators said he was in some trouble with head/neck and being treated by the trainer very early in the match. Kikau hit might have been the tipping point.

I think if it was caused by Kikau we'd have heard a lot more about it. Particularly from Sticky.
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bonehead wrote: September 10, 2021, 8:47 am
Matt wrote:NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED BJ WITH THE BALL....
What about D?
What about motor?
What about effort?
What about consistency?
Errors or brain farts, etc?
Gotta love Beej, he's got just a touch too much crazy

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His crazy only gets worse when things aren't going well for him.

Shoft to the middle might be a solution. Simplify his role and those other factors will be less prevalent.
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Northern Raider wrote: September 10, 2021, 8:53 am
bonehead wrote: September 10, 2021, 8:47 am
Matt wrote:NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED BJ WITH THE BALL....
What about D?
What about motor?
What about effort?
What about consistency?
Errors or brain farts, etc?
Gotta love Beej, he's got just a touch too much crazy

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His crazy only gets worse when things aren't going well for him.

Shoft to the middle might be a solution. Simplify his role and those other factors will be less prevalent.
He would be decent in attack but I haven't seen much evidence he's got the technique or stomach for the defence in there. (motor questionable but he'd be an impact guy). Plus he'd be even more mental looking for square ups and reacting to all the contact.
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The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

I think who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed
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Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 12:54 pm The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

I think who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed
Peachy is probably the better version currently of what we're asking Hodgo to do, but Peachy a lot more mobile so can create + running threat. Decent short kicking game too. He's effective in the faster game, that's for sure. Defence would be comparible- Hodgo might be smarter at decisions but Peachy can move sideways.

I'd back the buy but I'm not sure he's a Ricky type player.
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BadnMean wrote: September 10, 2021, 1:31 pm
Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 12:54 pm The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

I think who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed
Peachy is probably the better version currently of what we're asking Hodgo to do, but Peachy a lot more mobile so can create + running threat. Decent short kicking game too. He's effective in the faster game, that's for sure. Defence would be comparible- Hodgo might be smarter at decisions but Peachy can move sideways.

I'd back the buy but I'm not sure he's a Ricky type player.
True, he's actually skilful
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Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 2:43 pm
BadnMean wrote: September 10, 2021, 1:31 pm
Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 12:54 pm The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

I think who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed
Peachy is probably the better version currently of what we're asking Hodgo to do, but Peachy a lot more mobile so can create + running threat. Decent short kicking game too. He's effective in the faster game, that's for sure. Defence would be comparible- Hodgo might be smarter at decisions but Peachy can move sideways.

I'd back the buy but I'm not sure he's a Ricky type player.
True, he's actually skilful
I like Peach, but he is also a worse speed bump than Hodgo, so that could be an issue.
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A signing like Peachey is risky but would give me some degree of optimism heading into next year that the club is considering a different approach
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Dugan now free. Chuck him some Breezers never know what you’ll get…
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We signed the wrong Fijian winger in Semi. Lumelume is much faster and has better hands
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Brandon Smith is an awesome player. Although I love Hodgson and he's really been the most influential player for us in our most successful period since the last premiership, I would love to use the money freed up by Hodgson to offer it to Smith, and a bit more
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Spot on
Sign the big cheese
Has the same sort of winning attitude as Bateman
Bring lumelume with him
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Or perhaps not on lumelume
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pato2j wrote:Or perhaps not on lumelume
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sprintman wrote: September 10, 2021, 6:05 pm Dugan now free. Chuck him some Breezers never know what you’ll get…
So is Adam Elliott
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Peachey makes so many stupid decisions on his dice rolls. But we could do worse for a utility and you'd assume that price has come down quite a bit.
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zim wrote:Peachey makes so many stupid decisions on his dice rolls. But we could do worse for a utility and you'd assume that price has come down quite a bit.
He is very unpredictable, even his team mates have absolutely no idea what he's doing or about to do. One of those players that plays better in a contract year, so proceed with caution.
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Haha I agree. I've never been a big fan and I'm still not. But he should finally be at that price point and has a big enough point of difference that it makes some sense. You wouldn't want to be running anymore than a 2 year deal and you wouldn't want him to be in your best 13 every week. Really if you're trying to put together a top 4 push he shouldn't be in your best 13 any week.
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Thinking of other players that fit that utility role imagine if we signed Dylan Walker. Back vs forward utility but it would be hilarious.
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Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 12:54 pm The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

Ithink who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed

Put Jack @ 13, answers both points
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HoraceBigCigar wrote: September 11, 2021, 7:24 am
Canberra Milk wrote: September 10, 2021, 12:54 pm The more I think about it, the more I want Peachey at 13.

Ithink who we play at 13 next year is potentially even more important than who plays 7. It will open up Wighton and put less pressure on the 7 to produce plays. Peachey plays ad lib and that will suit the Ricky Stuart style, as he won't need coaching / won't need to fit into any system. He is very much a link player and can set up an outside man

Conversely if we buy a solid halfback (solid is the best of what's available) and persist with a lumbering prop at 13, our attack will still continue to stink, almost guaranteed

Put Jack @ 13, answers both points
If we got someone top drawer like Pearce, we could put Schneider at #6 and Jack to lock and be an improved lineup.

On Peachey- yes I agree with the assessments so far on his weak points- but he still does what we are asking Hodgo to do, better, with honestly the same amount of bonehad plays (Hodgo: running multiple short sides where we have an underlap, awful, awful kicking, crash balls after a break) but more potent in attack. And for half the price... If we don't get a top half, I'd back the addition of a Peachey type.
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