9. Sticking SolidThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:06 pmOh yeah, and who's their hooker??radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:02 pmCurrent Bulldogs backline is already better than ours. We have the worst backline.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 12:24 pmBulldogs backline will be better than ours in 2022 if we sit still...The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 amReally? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 10:45 am You do get the feeling that at least roster wise, Sharks and Bulldogs are getting closer to us if not overtaking
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
1. DWZ
2. Addo Car
3. Naden
4. Hoppa
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Flanagan
That's not bad...They are in desperate need of a No.9.
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You know what?? I **** like it!!afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:08 pm9. Sticking SolidThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:06 pmOh yeah, and who's their hooker??radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:02 pmCurrent Bulldogs backline is already better than ours. We have the worst backline.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 12:24 pmBulldogs backline will be better than ours in 2022 if we sit still...The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 am
Really? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
1. DWZ
2. Addo Car
3. Naden
4. Hoppa
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Flanagan
That's not bad...They are in desperate need of a No.9.
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Hookers are part of a backline? One of your bestThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:06 pmOh yeah, and who's their hooker??radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:02 pmCurrent Bulldogs backline is already better than ours. We have the worst backline.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 12:24 pmBulldogs backline will be better than ours in 2022 if we sit still...The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 amReally? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 10:45 am You do get the feeling that at least roster wise, Sharks and Bulldogs are getting closer to us if not overtaking
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
1. DWZ
2. Addo Car
3. Naden
4. Hoppa
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Flanagan
That's not bad...They are in desperate need of a No.9.
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Answer the question, pal.radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:22 pmHookers are part of a backline? One of your bestThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:06 pmOh yeah, and who's their hooker??radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:02 pmCurrent Bulldogs backline is already better than ours. We have the worst backline.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 12:24 pmBulldogs backline will be better than ours in 2022 if we sit still...The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 am
Really? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
1. DWZ
2. Addo Car
3. Naden
4. Hoppa
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Flanagan
That's not bad...They are in desperate need of a No.9.
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Well Bulldogs will have Burton, who I think will be a star playmaker if not already. Better than Wighton at that age. Flanagan not amazing but only young and can be a handy foil. Their 1 Corey Allan can be good if he finds his form from Souths. Yes 9 is weak, but add Cotric, Addo Carr, Naden and they have points in them. They also have Averillo who I think is a good player, although not sure what best position is. Maybe he or Burton could go to 1.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 amReally? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 10:45 am You do get the feeling that at least roster wise, Sharks and Bulldogs are getting closer to us if not overtaking
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
Sharks will have Adam Reynolds, genuine game manager at half. I like the look of Connor Treacy, at least for his running so can be a good foil to Reynolds. Will Kennedy at the back who's been super impressive.
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Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
The position is THAT important these days.
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Well you could be right but I think the gap is still at least narrowing
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Meanwhile Storm have Grant/Papen/Hughes/Munster, Panthers have Cleary/Luai/Koro and Roosters have Walker/Keary/Tedesco, so they will be winning all the comps in the next few years
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I've felt all along the dogs are doing their recruitment ****-backwards and pumping way too much money into outside backs.
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They are doing the opposite of Sticky then?The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:48 pm I've felt all along the dogs are doing their recruitment ****-backwards and pumping way too much money into outside backs.
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yeah they need a hooker.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:06 pmOh yeah, and who's their hooker??radicalraider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:02 pmCurrent Bulldogs backline is already better than ours. We have the worst backline.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 12:24 pmBulldogs backline will be better than ours in 2022 if we sit still...The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 amReally? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 10:45 am You do get the feeling that at least roster wise, Sharks and Bulldogs are getting closer to us if not overtaking
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
1. DWZ
2. Addo Car
3. Naden
4. Hoppa
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Flanagan
That's not bad...They are in desperate need of a No.9.
Otherwise, agree the halves could be 'hit or miss'...
The back 5 are better IMO.
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If the outside backs give you speed and power (in todays game) I think were understating how important it is to invest money there.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:48 pm I've felt all along the dogs are doing their recruitment ****-backwards and pumping way too much money into outside backs.
The game has basically become a battle to cart the ball out on kick returns as far as possible to allow your forwards to do less running...
All this talk that the 6 again rule would bring 'skill' into the game is rubbish....it's doubled down on power, particularly from your outside backs.
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Corey Allen's form at fullback for Souths was very very ordinary. He was realistically their 3rd stringer behind Latrell and Johnston (who Bennett kept picking on the wing). It was the play of Walker, Reynolds and Cook that carried them through the finals.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:35 pmWell Bulldogs will have Burton, who I think will be a star playmaker if not already. Better than Wighton at that age. Flanagan not amazing but only young and can be a handy foil. Their 1 Corey Allan can be good if he finds his form from Souths. Yes 9 is weak, but add Cotric, Addo Carr, Naden and they have points in them. They also have Averillo who I think is a good player, although not sure what best position is. Maybe he or Burton could go to 1.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 11:15 amReally? I genuinely don't get that feeling at all.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 10:45 am You do get the feeling that at least roster wise, Sharks and Bulldogs are getting closer to us if not overtaking
What will the 2022 spine of each club be?
Sharks will have Adam Reynolds, genuine game manager at half. I like the look of Connor Treacy, at least for his running so can be a good foil to Reynolds. Will Kennedy at the back who's been super impressive.
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We have 3 of them and are going mediocre....The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
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Current form slump notwithstanding. We were in a preliminary final last year and GF year before that.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:07 pmWe have 3 of them and are going mediocre....The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
It's also no magic bullet. You need more than a good 9 to be anything above mediocre.
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Absolutely... but you're not going anywhere without one either.Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:45 pmCurrent form slump notwithstanding. We were in a preliminary final last year and GF year before that.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:07 pmWe have 3 of them and are going mediocre....The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
It's also no magic bullet. You need more than a good 9 to be anything above mediocre.
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Johnson has openly stated he doesn't like Canberra.
He is also 30 years old and has never actually led his team to any meaningful success.
He is also 30 years old and has never actually led his team to any meaningful success.
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And he is also made of glass
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Yeah I agree with you both.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:52 pmAbsolutely... but you're not going anywhere without one either.Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:45 pmCurrent form slump notwithstanding. We were in a preliminary final last year and GF year before that.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:07 pmWe have 3 of them and are going mediocre....The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
It's also no magic bullet. You need more than a good 9 to be anything above mediocre.
Just saying, you can't deny the Dogs are getting more right than wrong when it comes to recruitment in the backline lately.
They will for sure need a No.9 and I don't see that being a tough position to recruit for at the moment.
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I'll reserve judgment on whether their recruitment is right or wrong till I see results. A spine of Burton and Flanagan with TBD at fullback and hooker is completely untested. Burton has shown promise as a running half. Not shown much as a ball player or tactician as yet. Flanagan was the weak link in a high powered Roosters team last year. A point which they recognise and thus let him walk.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 3:42 pmYeah I agree with you both.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:52 pmAbsolutely... but you're not going anywhere without one either.Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:45 pmCurrent form slump notwithstanding. We were in a preliminary final last year and GF year before that.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:07 pmWe have 3 of them and are going mediocre....The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
It's also no magic bullet. You need more than a good 9 to be anything above mediocre.
Just saying, you can't deny the Dogs are getting more right than wrong when it comes to recruitment in the backline lately.
They will for sure need a No.9 and I don't see that being a tough position to recruit for at the moment.
They have quality on the wings in Addo-Carr and Cotric. You would expect that to be the case given they are the 2 highest paid players in the NRL for the position. Centres are meh. Hoppa will be 30 next year and hasn't looked dangerous for a long while now. Naden has been around for years and really only has one decent season on his CV. He's been back in reserve grade this year. Lost his spot to Momirovski who has rapidly become a modern day journeyman.
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Highlights of the SG Ball win on the weekend went up on the NSWRL website: https://www.nswrl.com.au/news/2021/04/2 ... ighlights/
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Savage at it again, around the 30 second mark
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He's got some wheels. Looks like Addo-Carr in that he rapidly hits top gear.afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:01 pm Highlights of the SG Ball win on the weekend went up on the NSWRL website: https://www.nswrl.com.au/news/2021/04/2 ... ighlights/
Savage at it again, around the 30 second mark
Assume he'll be joining the NSW Cup squad after this week.
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You can have the same view about any signing really....until they are playing together we won't know for sure.Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 4:39 pmI'll reserve judgment on whether their recruitment is right or wrong till I see results. A spine of Burton and Flanagan with TBD at fullback and hooker is completely untested. Burton has shown promise as a running half. Not shown much as a ball player or tactician as yet. Flanagan was the weak link in a high powered Roosters team last year. A point which they recognise and thus let him walk.GreenMachine wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 3:42 pmYeah I agree with you both.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:52 pmAbsolutely... but you're not going anywhere without one either.Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 2:45 pmCurrent form slump notwithstanding. We were in a preliminary final last year and GF year before that.
It's also no magic bullet. You need more than a good 9 to be anything above mediocre.
Just saying, you can't deny the Dogs are getting more right than wrong when it comes to recruitment in the backline lately.
They will for sure need a No.9 and I don't see that being a tough position to recruit for at the moment.
They have quality on the wings in Addo-Carr and Cotric. You would expect that to be the case given they are the 2 highest paid players in the NRL for the position. Centres are meh. Hoppa will be 30 next year and hasn't looked dangerous for a long while now. Naden has been around for years and really only has one decent season on his CV. He's been back in reserve grade this year. Lost his spot to Momirovski who has rapidly become a modern day journeyman.
The flip side is that a young pairing of Flanagan and Burton could form a decent halves pairing to build a backline around...and the dogs are doing just that by adding pieces we could only hope to have.
Have they paid overs? Possibly.
However, if it gets them back into the top 8 and eventually attract more quality in the forwards then it would be worth it.
Meanwhile, were accumulating a **** tonne of middle forwards (who marginally differ in output) and cornering the market on hookers, but running out a plodderish backline.
Whatever "potential' we all thought we had with the forwards and halves is being wasted and to add to the frustration is the fact we won't go "All In" on, at the very least, testing the young talent we think we have. We won't know what we have unless we test them....sure it may fail, but that's a signal to go to market.
It's as if Ricky has ultimate faith that the backline will catch fire when most of us don't see it.
I've said this in a number of threads and I'll say it again - Ricky underestimated the impact these new rules would have on our team by running out with such a slow and low power backline. I hope someone is jumping up and down highlighting this shortfall to him and working with talent and recruitment to address the issue. I'm happy to burn this season if it meant we ran out in 2022 with the right type of players in positions 1 to 5.
2019 was a long time ago in terms of how the game is being shaped....adapt of die really.
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I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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Not if we don't stick solid. If that doesn't happen then forget about it.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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Need to stick solid..afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:35 pmNot if we don't stick solid. If that doesn't happen then forget about it.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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On a scale of 1 to 10, what do you think our chances are of sticking solid in 2022 and beyond, affggjkgttlth??afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:35 pmNot if we don't stick solid. If that doesn't happen then forget about it.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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Of you and I Nickman? Probably a 14The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:37 pmOn a scale of 1 to 10, what do you think our chances are of sticking solid in 2022 and beyond, affggjkgttlth??afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:35 pmNot if we don't stick solid. If that doesn't happen then forget about it.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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Dogs are on a different timeline to us.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
We should be battling for top 4 given what we’re led to believe about our squad. We’re not near that at the moment and unlikely to get there.
The dogs are avoiding the spoon.
A fairer wager is whether the Dogs can get back into the top 8 in the next year versus us making the top 4...
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I know it's hard to get players to leave the Storm, but surely some of their guns in reserves/the bench (in teams which actually have backs on the bench) would be worth a crack at... Nothing against CNK/Wighton but Nicho Hynes has to be worth going for right? Would bring him closer to his home on the central coast as well.
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Gordon Tallis suggested last night that Broncos should make a play for Josh Hodgson
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What about now? I'd say our chances of sticking solid have decreased by at least 33%.afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:42 pmOf you and I Nickman? Probably a 14The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:37 pmOn a scale of 1 to 10, what do you think our chances are of sticking solid in 2022 and beyond, affggjkgttlth??afgtnk wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:35 pmNot if we don't stick solid. If that doesn't happen then forget about it.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 5:31 pm I'd wager that we'll still finish ahead of the Dogs next season as well. And comfortably so.
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Mitch Kenny.The Nickman wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 1:39 pm Anyone without a good 9 is going to be garbage. You can't slot a Glenn Buttriss type into a good side and expect them to be anything other than spectacularly mediocre.
The position is THAT important these days.
Panthers went 5 straight.
Checkmate.
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I like Hynes.Ultima wrote: ↑April 29, 2021, 6:30 pm I know it's hard to get players to leave the Storm, but surely some of their guns in reserves/the bench (in teams which actually have backs on the bench) would be worth a crack at... Nothing against CNK/Wighton but Nicho Hynes has to be worth going for right? Would bring him closer to his home on the central coast as well.
I like Drinky.
The Q is, do you want the extra attacker, or the defensive prowess and meterage of CNK? With our current wing stocks, we need CNK.
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I'd be OK with that to be honest.Canberra Milk wrote: ↑April 30, 2021, 11:08 am Gordon Tallis suggested last night that Broncos should make a play for Josh Hodgson
Time to renew. Rapa has been good this year, but we should immediately be planning for life without Croker, Hodgson and Rapana starting 2022.