2020 Rd 1 V Tigers: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
13
52%
Raiders 1-12
11
44%
Draw
1
4%
Tigers 1-12
0
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Tigers 13+
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 25

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Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Bailey Simonsson
3. Sebastian Kris
4. Curtis Scott
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Dunamis Lui
11. Hudson Young
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joseph Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Iosia Soliola
17. Ryan James

18. Sam Williams
19. Tom Starling
20. Emre Guler
21. Harley Smith-Shields
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Wests Tigers

1. Daine Laurie
2. David Nofoaluma
3. James Roberts
4. Joseph Leilua
5. Asu Kepaoa
6. Moses Mbye
7. Luke Brooks
8. James Tamou
9. Jacob Liddle
10. Joe Ofahengaue
11. Luke Garner
12. Luciano Leilua
13. Alex Twal

14. Tommy Talau
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Russell Packer

18. Jock Madden
19. Michael Chee-Kam
20. Tukimihia Simpkins
21. Alex Seyfarth
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Strong team.

I don't like the Scott selection, but prepared to give him another chance. Kris deserves his spot after being highly impressive in the trial.

I would've picked Guler on the bench, but can understand that Ricky may want to ease him back in. Sia and James are always going to be more reliable at this stage, given their experience and age. No one is replacing Sutton there, he's the best bench middle we have right now to come on after Papa and/or Taps IMO.

Havili is the right choice for the #14, but I worry about not having an outside back. None of those guys are capable of replacing an edge, should that edge have to move to the backs (which in itself is very far from ideal), in 2021.
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Tbh bit disappointed semi missed out he was our biggest strike weapon on the outside last year.

Also a bit sad we are going havili not starling..

Tbh on paper our outside backs are garbage compared to there’s, our forwards are well well better and halves better so we should get up...

But I’m hoping to see kris / Scott or someone from our backs fire otherwise it will be a disappointing year...
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Botman wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:20 pm Wests Tigers

1. Daine Laurie
2. David Nofoaluma
3. James Roberts
4. Joseph Leilua
5. Asu Kepaoa
6. Moses Mbye
7. Luke Brooks
8. James Tamou
9. Jacob Liddle
10. Joe Ofahengaue
11. Luke Garner
12. Luciano Leilua
13. Alex Twal

14. Tommy Talau
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Russell Packer

18. Jock Madden
19. Michael Chee-Kam
20. Tukimihia Simpkins
21. Alex Seyfarth
My God that 1, 6 and 9 stinks
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afgtnk wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:22 pm I don't like the Scott selection, but prepared to give him another chance.
I expect we will see a much different Curtis Scott this year. I'm treating him as if he has a new recruit. He definitely deserves a second chance after what he had to put up with last year. I think (and hope) he will be our best back this year.
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Liddle goes ok.

Haven’t seen much of Laurie to comment
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I'm a little worried about our genuine lack of speed out wide...
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papabear wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:28 pm Liddle goes ok.

Haven’t seen much of Laurie to comment
If we sleep on Laurie like the dragons did he's going to put a few tries on.
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Have to take y'all word for it on Kris, although I wasn't sold on Timoko yet. Is Valemei playing lower grades somewhere? Hopefully there's a chance for him to iron out his hands/defence

Interesting that Havili chosen over Starling. I'm a big fan of Havili though so all good for me

Not sure about Sutton on bench. He's a good workhorse but one dimensional and has a bit of the handsies. Don't get me wrong I am nitpicking and like him overall, but I think I'd give Guler the edge

papabear wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:28 pm
Liddle goes ok.

Haven’t seen much of Laurie to comment
Laurie looks good to me, although have only seen a bit
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afgtnk wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:27 pm
Botman wrote: March 9, 2021, 3:20 pm Wests Tigers

1. Daine Laurie
2. David Nofoaluma
3. James Roberts
4. Joseph Leilua
5. Asu Kepaoa
6. Moses Mbye
7. Luke Brooks
8. James Tamou
9. Jacob Liddle
10. Joe Ofahengaue
11. Luke Garner
12. Luciano Leilua
13. Alex Twal

14. Tommy Talau
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Russell Packer

18. Jock Madden
19. Michael Chee-Kam
20. Tukimihia Simpkins
21. Alex Seyfarth
My God that 1, 6 and 9 stinks
The 7 low key sucks too
It’s a decent squad but that spine is very stinky
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If we lose an outside back I would put Wighton there and Hodgson to 7 with Havili at 9.

Wests have a decent team but our forwards and bench in particular should monster them.

If our centres have good years than the team will be in a prelim again.
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Some big calls .
Really not sure its a wise decision to fill our final spot in the 30 man squad with a centre when we get croker back so soon and have other decent options playing reserves.
If kris really can play as an edge backrower then that would make it more understandable.
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I think a lot of the result of this game will come down to fitness and dropped ball. That and containing the Leilua's and Laurie on the edge

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1992 wrote: March 9, 2021, 4:32 pm If we lose an outside back I would put Wighton there and Hodgson to 7 with Havili at 9.
That won't happen in a million years, and nor should it.
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Hey, unfortunately we are going to miss the game this weekend because we’ll be up on the Gold Coast. Where on the Goldy do Raiders fans go and watch the game?
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RaiderDavo wrote: March 9, 2021, 5:13 pm Hey, unfortunately we are going to miss the game this weekend because we’ll be up on the Gold Coast. Where on the Goldy do Raiders fans go and watch the game?
The Cut at Benowa
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Canberra Raiders centre Sebastian Kris gets a new top 30 contract... and is back to feeling like himself again

Sebastian Kris is not only healthy again, but he's earned himself a spot in the Canberra Raiders' starting line-up... as well as an upgrade to fill the final spot on the 30-man roster. He was thankful for his family's support after taking 2020 off, as he got himself mentally right.

"It's hard to pinpoint. I was just feeling not myself. I just thought I'd take a step back from everything and just rebuild those blocks," Kris said. "I've come back stronger and felt better than ever really."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

James in, Croker out as Raiders name Round 1 side: https://canberraweekly.com.au/james-in- ... -one-side/

Sebastian Kris added to Canberra Raiders top 30 squad: viewtopic.php?p=1779001#p1779001

Canberra Stadium turns full strength beer tap back on, but bag ban remains for Raiders clash with Tigers: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Canberra Raiders forward Joe Tapine reaping benefits of increased depth

Canberra Raiders lock Joe Tapine has said it will be an emotional occasion for new Raider Ryan James this Sunday as he makes his return to the field after suffering successive ACL injuries.

"I know he’s buzzing and there will be a lot of emotion going into [the game]," Tapine said.

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Any word on this Sunday’s jersey ?

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-PJ- wrote: March 9, 2021, 6:09 pm Any word on this Sunday’s jersey ?

Home or Heritage ?
I reckon you can guess.
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greeneyed wrote: March 9, 2021, 6:12 pm
-PJ- wrote: March 9, 2021, 6:09 pm Any word on this Sunday’s jersey ?

Home or Heritage ?
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GreenMachine wrote:I'm a little worried about our genuine lack of speed out wide...
Yeah we're not a fast team. The tigers have us hands down for speed.

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Really happy for Kris though
I really thought in limited time he looked like a guy capable of carving out a really solid NRL career and I’m really glad he took the year to get his mental health right and has worked his way back to earn this opportunity

That’s a truly wonderful story
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Paps and Tarps give us plenty of strike in the fwds intially - but the bench looks pretty one dimensional (solid?). And the backs look one dimensional as well. I do not feel as confident about the team now I see it written out. Nervous jitters from me maybe
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The edge question is interesting
If we do need to replace Young or Whitehead, who is it?

There are no good options at all. And further more, if we need to replace an outside back or halves, the go to option would be to Whitehead goes to centre or 5/8th and everyone else shuffles around... so really if we lose anyone of the back 5, the halves or edges, we're basically going to need James to defend out wide
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No way do spine players get moved around to accomodate an injury. No chance.

Any injury to a back or edge will see a middle playing on the edge - probably Tapine. Only the two edge players can cover the backs, although I doubt very well. Elliott is as slow as a tractor, bless him.

I can understand the need to stock the bench with middles early in the season for rotation, but after a few rounds I really don't think that's sustainable. Kris would be ideal on the bench once Croker's back IMO.
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Smelly is often the first one to be moved. Pretty sure in the 2016 prelim final against the storm he was on the wing at one stage!
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Disappointed in the Starling selection.
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Botman wrote:
RaiderDavo wrote: March 9, 2021, 5:13 pm Hey, unfortunately we are going to miss the game this weekend because we’ll be up on the Gold Coast. Where on the Goldy do Raiders fans go and watch the game?
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afgtnk wrote: March 9, 2021, 6:48 pm No way do spine players get moved around to accomodate an injury. No chance.

Any injury to a back or edge will see a middle playing on the edge - probably Tapine. Only the two edge players can cover the backs, although I doubt very well. Elliott is as slow as a tractor, bless him.

I can understand the need to stock the bench with middles early in the season for rotation, but after a few rounds I really don't think that's sustainable. Kris would be ideal on the bench once Croker's back IMO.
I didnt express that clearly, im not saying Whitehead into 5/8th and then Wighton shifting around. That was an extension of the idea of a half getting hurt. '

I think if Wighton or Georgey had to come off, Whitehead might move into 5/8th... though they could easily move Hodgson into the halves and play Havilii at hooker i guess
Basically there is a chance that 1-7 or 11/12 have to leave the feild, we're playing a middle on the edge as you said
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And i neglected to consider Tapine, he's the clear choice. THat actually makes me feel a little better.
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RaiderDavo wrote: March 9, 2021, 7:00 pm
Botman wrote:
RaiderDavo wrote: March 9, 2021, 5:13 pm Hey, unfortunately we are going to miss the game this weekend because we’ll be up on the Gold Coast. Where on the Goldy do Raiders fans go and watch the game?
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Im sure someone with some idea of what they're talking about will offer you actual real advice.
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Botman wrote: March 9, 2021, 7:01 pm
afgtnk wrote: March 9, 2021, 6:48 pm No way do spine players get moved around to accomodate an injury. No chance.

Any injury to a back or edge will see a middle playing on the edge - probably Tapine. Only the two edge players can cover the backs, although I doubt very well. Elliott is as slow as a tractor, bless him.

I can understand the need to stock the bench with middles early in the season for rotation, but after a few rounds I really don't think that's sustainable. Kris would be ideal on the bench once Croker's back IMO.
I didnt express that clearly, im not saying Whitehead into 5/8th and then Wighton shifting around. That was an extension of the idea of a half getting hurt. '

I think if Wighton or Georgey had to come off, Whitehead might move into 5/8th... though they could easily move Hodgson into the halves and play Havilii at hooker i guess
Basically there is a chance that 1-7 or 11/12 have to leave the feild, we're playing a middle on the edge as you said
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And i neglected to consider Tapine, he's the clear choice. THat actually makes me feel a little better.
Yeah I think Whitehead's probably first cab off the rank. I vaguely recall him filling in there at some point this season.... George going off?

Hodgo you possibly could move in the event of a half getting injured, provided he didn't defend as a half.
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He played there a few years ago, and set up about 2-3 tries as a ball playing half... might have been a Wighton/Sezer in game injyr

it was really incredible though. Threw a money cut out pass to i think Rapana to set one up.
Just a tremendously skillful player
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RaiderDavo wrote:
Botman wrote:
RaiderDavo wrote: March 9, 2021, 5:13 pm Hey, unfortunately we are going to miss the game this weekend because we’ll be up on the Gold Coast. Where on the Goldy do Raiders fans go and watch the game?
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