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Sounds like a re-run of the Scott episode in many respects. This time we have an incident at a pub where an intoxicated football player steps in to help his mate/brother and the police take it to the next level. Intoxicated footballer then gets the blame.

I'm sure Starling wasn't entirely innocent, but from what I've seen I'm also sure the NSW police force haven't covered themselves in glory here.
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You really have to wonder about the person leading the PP here, same as the Scott case.
Either someone isn't giving them the full brief or they are dreaming rainbows. In both cases the evidence seems to be very thin to continue the charges.

If they keep this up we may need to declare them as 3rd party sponsorship of our players due to payouts
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cat wrote: January 13, 2021, 10:53 pm You really have to wonder about the person leading the PP here, same as the Scott case.
Either someone isn't giving them the full brief or they are dreaming rainbows. In both cases the evidence seems to be very thin to continue the charges.

If they keep this up we may need to declare them as 3rd party sponsorship of our players due to payouts
I dont know that we can definitively say that on this case yet, given we are not privy to evidence.
The police have tendered body cam footage and cctv. Now the police have certainly not earned the BOTD, so a healthy level of skepticism seems reasonable but also i dont think we have enough information right now to say whether the police have enough evidence to make the charges stick

I think we're all best to just see how this plays outs and await more information.
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Agree Pigman. Not 100% sure Raiders players will definitely be 2 from 2.
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Given the state that starling was left in I wonder if the police have no choice but to pursue charges against him. Can you imagine if they admitted that charges should be dropped after what they did to him. I'd suggest the police who were involved would be desperate to see charges laid so as to keep their jobs.
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Botman wrote: January 14, 2021, 7:52 pm
cat wrote: January 13, 2021, 10:53 pm You really have to wonder about the person leading the PP here, same as the Scott case.
Either someone isn't giving them the full brief or they are dreaming rainbows. In both cases the evidence seems to be very thin to continue the charges.

If they keep this up we may need to declare them as 3rd party sponsorship of our players due to payouts
I dont know that we can definitively say that on this case yet, given we are not privy to evidence.
The police have tendered body cam footage and cctv. Now the police have certainly not earned the BOTD, so a healthy level of skepticism seems reasonable but also i dont think we have enough information right now to say whether the police have enough evidence to make the charges stick

I think we're all best to just see how this plays outs and await more information.
I agree but given the fact that Ricky has backed him I'm leaning towards 2-0 to the Raiders

Can't see Tommy lying to Ricky or the club

IF this does go the Raiders way I'm curious to know if the cops recognised both players as NRL players or a scarier thought this is becoming too common practice within the police force
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cat wrote: January 16, 2021, 12:54 pm
Botman wrote: January 14, 2021, 7:52 pm
cat wrote: January 13, 2021, 10:53 pm You really have to wonder about the person leading the PP here, same as the Scott case.
Either someone isn't giving them the full brief or they are dreaming rainbows. In both cases the evidence seems to be very thin to continue the charges.

If they keep this up we may need to declare them as 3rd party sponsorship of our players due to payouts
I dont know that we can definitively say that on this case yet, given we are not privy to evidence.
The police have tendered body cam footage and cctv. Now the police have certainly not earned the BOTD, so a healthy level of skepticism seems reasonable but also i dont think we have enough information right now to say whether the police have enough evidence to make the charges stick

I think we're all best to just see how this plays outs and await more information.
I agree but given the fact that Ricky has backed him I'm leaning towards 2-0 to the Raiders

Can't see Tommy lying to Ricky or the club

IF this does go the Raiders way I'm curious to know if the cops recognised both players as NRL players or a scarier thought this is becoming too common practice within the police force
Surprised to see you leaning that way
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simo wrote: January 16, 2021, 3:08 pm
cat wrote: January 16, 2021, 12:54 pm
Botman wrote: January 14, 2021, 7:52 pm
cat wrote: January 13, 2021, 10:53 pm You really have to wonder about the person leading the PP here, same as the Scott case.
Either someone isn't giving them the full brief or they are dreaming rainbows. In both cases the evidence seems to be very thin to continue the charges.

If they keep this up we may need to declare them as 3rd party sponsorship of our players due to payouts
I dont know that we can definitively say that on this case yet, given we are not privy to evidence.
The police have tendered body cam footage and cctv. Now the police have certainly not earned the BOTD, so a healthy level of skepticism seems reasonable but also i dont think we have enough information right now to say whether the police have enough evidence to make the charges stick

I think we're all best to just see how this plays outs and await more information.
I agree but given the fact that Ricky has backed him I'm leaning towards 2-0 to the Raiders

Can't see Tommy lying to Ricky or the club

IF this does go the Raiders way I'm curious to know if the cops recognised both players as NRL players or a scarier thought this is becoming too common practice within the police force
Surprised to see you leaning that way
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Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

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-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Says Broncos doesn’t it?
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simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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Elcaptcroker wrote: January 17, 2021, 12:27 pm
simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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Haas was charged with "Intimidating Police". Whatever the **** that is.
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Elcaptcroker wrote:
simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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Northern Raider wrote: January 17, 2021, 12:47 pm
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 17, 2021, 12:27 pm
simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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Haas was charged with "Intimidating Police". Whatever the **** that is.
Well..after been beaten with a baton, pepper sprayed, tasered and shot you get up and advance.

That’s Intimidating Police...
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-PJ- wrote: January 17, 2021, 1:38 pm
Northern Raider wrote: January 17, 2021, 12:47 pm
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 17, 2021, 12:27 pm
simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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Haas was charged with "Intimidating Police". Whatever the **** that is.
Well..after been beaten with a baton, pepper sprayed, tasered and shot you get up and advance.

That’s Intimidating Police...
Wouldn't be hard to make the charge stick.

Prosecution: "Officer, did you find the accused intimidating?"
Arresting Officer: "Yes"
Judge: "I guess that makes him guilty then."
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I'm Bate Man wrote:
Elcaptcroker wrote:
simo wrote:
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Haas doesnt have a good record but saying that scott had history as well, im all for giving haas the chance to prove his innocence or the police to prove his guilt but he was the one that the broncos paid off the indo cops to let free wasnt he?


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simo wrote: January 17, 2021, 11:01 am
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4dfba9e372

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Absolutely we do. **** the broncos, every and all day.
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Botman wrote:
simo wrote: January 17, 2021, 11:01 am
-TW- wrote: January 17, 2021, 10:46 am Payne Haas arrested with similar charges after a incident in Tweed heads

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Just confirming, we all want him rubbed out of the game for life yeah?
Absolutely we do. **** the broncos, every and all day.
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Hahahaha. All charges bar 1 dropped. Tommy pleading not guilty to remaining charge of “hinder police”.
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Let’s see if that gets plastered all over the newspaper headlines now like it did when the actual incident happened.


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Canberra Raiders hooker Tom Starling has six of seven charges - including assaulting police - dropped





Canberra hooker Tom Starling has had six of the seven charges stemming from an altercation with security and police on the Central Coast dropped. The 22-year-old fronted magistrates at Gosford local court on Thursday where he had charges which included affray and assaulting a police officer withdrawn.

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Pleaded not guilty to remaining charge of Hindering Police so clearly this isn't part of a plea deal.
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So the CCTV footage and body cam footage can't have been too helpful to police. Given the way Tom looked afterwards... you have to wonder what happened there. I guess we will just have to wait to see...
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How do you go from “reached for an officers gun” to charges dropped? Officers shot a man for that only recently. Its mind blowing
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greeneyed wrote: January 21, 2021, 11:29 am So the CCTV footage and body cam footage can't have been too helpful to police. Given the way Tom looked afterwards... you have to wonder what happened there. I guess we will just have to wait to see...
At least who ever is in charge of this investigate is willing to concede their case and not push through in spite of lack of evidence
Seriously though, it is impossible not to think if this were Johnny Average, how different this could be.

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simo wrote: January 21, 2021, 11:39 am Officers shot a man for that only recently. Its mind blowing
I guess it is. Particularly if they shoot you in the head.
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greeneyed wrote: January 21, 2021, 11:10 am Canberra Raiders hooker Tom Starling has six of seven charges - including assaulting police - dropped
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I can only assume they have to charge him with something to try and justify the beating he took. Otherwise he got beat up, they tried to refuse his bail, and he didn't do anything worthy of a charge which wouldn't look good on their incident report and certainly would open the door for a decent law suit against them.
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simo wrote: January 21, 2021, 11:39 am How do you go from “reached for an officers gun” to charges dropped? Officers shot a man for that only recently. Its mind blowing
It's ridiculous.
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Seiffert82 wrote: January 21, 2021, 1:15 pm
simo wrote: January 21, 2021, 11:39 am How do you go from “reached for an officers gun” to charges dropped? Officers shot a man for that only recently. Its mind blowing
It's ridiculous.
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Gee Raiders players are going to have a target on them by the NSW police.

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Great news. Particularly with timing. Good to get this out of the way well before round 1
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