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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
9
60%
Raiders 1-12
4
27%
Draw
0
No votes
Sharks 1-12
1
7%
Sharks 13+
1
7%
 
Total votes: 15

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2020 Rd 20 V Sharks: Teams and Previews

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Canberra Raiders V Cronulla Sharks
Saturday 26 September 5:30pm
Kogarah Jubilee Stadium
TV coverage: Fox League Channel 502
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Who would you like to see line up for the Green Machine in Round 19? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

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OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Adam Cook
2. Semi Valemi
3. Matt Timoko
4. Harley Smith-Shields
5. Nick Cotric
6. Matt Frawley
7. Sam Williams
8. Dunamis Lui
9. Tom Starling
10. Sia Soliola
11. Hudson Young
12. Corey Harawira-Naera
13. Siliva Havili

14. Kai O'Donnell
15. Ryan Sutton
16. Darby Medlyn
17. Jarrett Subloo

18. Ata Mariota
19. Joe Tapine
20. Jack Wighton
21. Elliott Whitehead

Injury/Suspension

Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Rib (Finals Week 1)
Jordan Rapana, Knee (Finals Week 1)
Michael Oldfield, Thumb (Indefinite, possibly Finals Week 1)
Corey Horsburgh, Foot (Indefinite, possibly season)
Emre Guler, Ankle (Indefinite, likely season)
Bailey Simonsson, Shoulder (Season)
Josh Hodgson, Knee (Season)
Curtis Scott, Leg (Season)
Andre Niko, Knee (Season)
Sebastian Kris, Extended personal leave

Cronulla Sharks

1. Will Kennedy
2. Nene Macdonald
3. Mawene Hiroti
4. Jesse Ramien
5. Ronaldo Mulitalo
6. Wade Graham
7. Connor Tracey
8. Braden Hamlin-Uele
9. Blayke Brailey
10. Aaron Woods
11. Briton Nikora
12. Siosifa Talakai
13. Toby Rudolf

14. Scott Sorensen
15. Jack Williams
16. Andrew Fifita
17. Teig Wilton

18. Billy Magoulias
19. Braydon Trindall
20. Bryson Goodwin
21. Daniel Vasquez

Officials

Referee: Ashley Klein
Touch judges: Phil Henderson, Todd Smith
Video referee: Jared Maxwell

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If we have the cattle to do so I'd be resting CNK, Whitehead and Papa next week. Bateman too possibly.

Rapana
Valemei
Croker (c)
Timoko
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Lui
Starling
Sutton
Young
CHN
Tapine

Havili
Soliola
O'Donnell
Frawley
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I wouldn’t be resting anyone

Exactly the same team as this week unless Scott is back
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Yeah..full steam ahead, roll the Sharkies and roll them again in a fortnight,and keep rollin until we run out of roll..
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-PJ- wrote:Yeah..full steam ahead, roll the Sharkies and roll them again in a fortnight,and keep rollin until we run out of roll..
You mean the panthers in a fortnight
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The Nickman wrote: September 20, 2020, 5:08 pm
-PJ- wrote:Yeah..full steam ahead, roll the Sharkies and roll them again in a fortnight,and keep rollin until we run out of roll..
You mean the panthers in a fortnight
Oh..you're laying out your hard earned on the Tiges to spring the upset.

Ok..Panthers in a fortnight. :thumbsup
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The Tigers are muppets but with Benji finishing his time with them it will be a tight one vs the Eels. We are definitely a shot at 4th aye.
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It's not impossible Azza, Parra ain't that hot, Tiges are frrrreeeeezin.
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Let’s not forget tigers will hopefully be playing for a shot at their beloved ninth spot too

It’s destiny

Also, eels were disgusting against the Broncos, they’re getting worse and worse every week
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While we have had some dumb losses this year, IMO given Eels have had so much advantage with their travel schedule compared to us I think it would be fair enough for us to land 4th.
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Yes

There should be some kind of VB hard earned index for entire clubs.

Then base the top 8 on that.

Eels would be last.

Cmon, Vlandys, make it happen.
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**** shame we aren't playing after the Eels instead of immediately before them - missing out on a potentially big advantage here. If we were able to know they've won I'd be resting at least three or four players, but looks like we can't get away with any.
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afgtnk wrote: September 20, 2020, 6:32 pm **** shame we aren't playing after the Eels instead of immediately before them - missing out on a potentially big advantage here. If we were able to know they've won I'd be resting at least three or four players, but looks like we can't get away with any.
It's BRUTAL
If they played first and won, you'd have to really think about resting a ton of players... CNK, Papalii, Whitehead, Bateman, Rapana and maybe even Tapine could all use a breather imo. Basically if they played first and won i'd probably run out the closest thing to a reserve grade team
But we really cant justify it now because its a small chance, but any chance we've got to sneak into that top 4 would be massive
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I'm resting Bateman anyway, get that shoulder and elbow as good as you can

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afgtnk wrote: September 20, 2020, 6:32 pm **** shame we aren't playing after the Eels instead of immediately before them - missing out on a potentially big advantage here. If we were able to know they've won I'd be resting at least three or four players, but looks like we can't get away with any.
I agree but it also puts added pressure on the Eels if they know the Raiders have already won their match. The added pressure and the Tigers farewelling key figures could be the recipe for a choke.
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With Sia ready to go, i will SHOCKED if Papalii plays this game. Even with the ability to earn a top 4 spot if the Eels **** up, i think they need to get some legs into Sia and Papalii needs a break to try and get healthy
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Botman wrote: September 20, 2020, 6:36 pm
afgtnk wrote: September 20, 2020, 6:32 pm **** shame we aren't playing after the Eels instead of immediately before them - missing out on a potentially big advantage here. If we were able to know they've won I'd be resting at least three or four players, but looks like we can't get away with any.
It's BRUTAL
If they played first and won, you'd have to really think about resting a ton of players... CNK, Papalii, Whitehead, Bateman, Rapana and maybe even Tapine could all use a breather imo. Basically if they played first and won i'd probably run out the closest thing to a reserve grade team
But we really cant justify it now because its a small chance, but any chance we've got to sneak into that top 4 would be massive
I'd be giving one of Jack or George the first rights, followed by Papa. They're our three most important guys in this tilt at the premiership, and they've played all season I think.

Think George going off showed how much worse and muddled we are without him, especially from a game management and sustained pressure perspective. Jack gave pretty strong indications that he's not a player that should be playing both sides of the ruck as first receiver, and needs someone there to guide him. Would love to have them both wrapped up in cotton wool, but it's unaffordable.
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Honestly if the eels played first and won, i'd be willing to sit CNK, Croker, Wighton, George, Papalii, Whitehead, Bateman and Tapine
Rules on naming teams wouldnt allow that, so you might have to end up playing some of them on the bench with no intention to use them. But it's all moot, i think Stuart will give Papa a rest and that's it. Everyone else will be full go trying to get that top 4 spot.
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I’d be playing our full strength team, they still need a LOT of work before the finals

The ***** can rest after we beat Penrith in Week 1 of the finals
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The top 8 is all but locked in. 1-2 are locked 3-5 might move, 6-8 are locked. Best we can do is 4th which gets us an away match against Penrith, stuff that. Rest everyone we can, take the home final against the Sharks.

1 - Rapana
2 - Valemei
3 - Scott
4 - Oldfield
5 - Cotric
6 - Subloo
7 - Williams
8 - Sutton
9 - Havilii
10 - Harawira-Naera
11 - Horsburgh
12 - Tapine
13 - Young
14 - Starling
15 - Soliola
16 - O'Donnell
17 - Medlyn
18 - Frawley
19 - Timoko
20 - Whitehead
21 - Baptiste

I don't even know if some of these guys are actually available for selection but they are listed on the raiders website at least :P
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Also if we are 5th we beat the Sharks, then the Eels, then the Storm for a Grand final rematch (so I'm assuming it goes Panthers(W) V Eels(L), Raiders(W) V Sharks(L), Knights(L) V Rabbits(W), Storm(W) V Roosters(L), then Eels(L) V Raiders(W), Roosters(W) V Rabbits(L), then Panthers(L) V Roosters(W), Storm(L) V Raiders(W).
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yep, rest as many of the starting side as possible.

At a minimum the whole spine, backrow and papa watches from the stands
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Papalii get a week?
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Assuming we want to play full strength, then Soliola in, Sutton out

Sutton's been good but still has the oopsies sometimes and isn't a threat with the ball like Soliola. Soliola also leads our line speed. It's a tough call but should be made come finals time. And he should play this week to warm up
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The only players I'd consider resting are Papalii and Valemei - and that's because somebody has to make way for Soliola and Scott if they are fit. If we start well, then I'd be benching Whitehead to get more minutes into CHN.

George Williams had a rest this week after playing only 10 mins.

This team needs minutes playing together.
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aren't they talking about Scott needing a plate removed in his leg and his season could be over?

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We should be loaning anyone we can to the warriors this weekend to get as many minutes into our extended bench as pos
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Wiki Special wrote: September 20, 2020, 4:49 pm If we have the cattle to do so I'd be resting CNK, Whitehead and Papa next week. Bateman too possibly.

Rapana
Valemei
Croker (c)
Timoko
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Lui
Starling
Sutton
Young
CHN
Tapine

Havili
Soliola
O'Donnell
Frawley
Resting so many quality players leaves a far greater load on the remaining top players. Play full strength. Share the load and do it easier with momentum into the following week.
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simo wrote: September 21, 2020, 7:59 am
Wiki Special wrote: September 20, 2020, 4:49 pm If we have the cattle to do so I'd be resting CNK, Whitehead and Papa next week. Bateman too possibly.

Rapana
Valemei
Croker (c)
Timoko
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Lui
Starling
Sutton
Young
CHN
Tapine

Havili
Soliola
O'Donnell
Frawley
Resting so many quality players leaves a far greater load on the remaining top players. Play full strength. Share the load and do it easier with momentum into the following week.
Yeah, you make a fair point. I honestly thought the ones I mentioned looked a bit busted though, which is why I suggested them. If I just wanted to rest for the sake of it Wighton would be out too. But as always, the club will do the right thing.
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simo wrote: September 21, 2020, 7:51 am We should be loaning anyone we can to the warriors this weekend to get as many minutes into our extended bench as pos
Good suggestion.
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Wiki Special wrote: September 21, 2020, 8:07 am
simo wrote: September 21, 2020, 7:59 am
Wiki Special wrote: September 20, 2020, 4:49 pm If we have the cattle to do so I'd be resting CNK, Whitehead and Papa next week. Bateman too possibly.

Rapana
Valemei
Croker (c)
Timoko
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Lui
Starling
Sutton
Young
CHN
Tapine

Havili
Soliola
O'Donnell
Frawley
Resting so many quality players leaves a far greater load on the remaining top players. Play full strength. Share the load and do it easier with momentum into the following week.
Yeah, you make a fair point. I honestly thought the ones I mentioned looked a bit busted though, which is why I suggested them. If I just wanted to rest for the sake of it Wighton would be out too. But as always, the club will do the right thing.
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The Nickman wrote: September 20, 2020, 4:51 pm I wouldn’t be resting anyone

Exactly the same team as this week unless Scott is back
Agree.
No point resting players given there are very few games left this season.
We are also likely to play the Sharks back to back and need all the cohesion we can get in attack.
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simo wrote: September 21, 2020, 8:08 am
Wiki Special wrote: September 21, 2020, 8:07 am
simo wrote: September 21, 2020, 7:59 am
Wiki Special wrote: September 20, 2020, 4:49 pm If we have the cattle to do so I'd be resting CNK, Whitehead and Papa next week. Bateman too possibly.

Rapana
Valemei
Croker (c)
Timoko
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Lui
Starling
Sutton
Young
CHN
Tapine

Havili
Soliola
O'Donnell
Frawley
Resting so many quality players leaves a far greater load on the remaining top players. Play full strength. Share the load and do it easier with momentum into the following week.
Yeah, you make a fair point. I honestly thought the ones I mentioned looked a bit busted though, which is why I suggested them. If I just wanted to rest for the sake of it Wighton would be out too. But as always, the club will do the right thing.
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If there's players that genuinely need a rest due to injury etc. then that's fine but otherwise we should be throwing everything we have at this game. The main issue we have had is our cohesion in attack and we won't take any steps in the right direction there with key players missing. We should also be aiming to break the Sharks spirit to the point where they genuinely feel deep in their hearts that they are just making up the numbers and cannot beat us in the finals.

We should also be thinking that if the Eels fall over we can beat the Panthers week 1 and take their spot in the draw and be one win away from the grand final.

I am sure that Ricky will do what's right for the team and after resting players against the Warriors last year and losing we played fantastic through the finals so he seems to know what he's doing.
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I'd be starting Soliola and running him till he's gassed. 2 stints. Bateman to get a week to fix the elbow. Hudson to start on the right.
The rest of the side pretty much picks itself and you can adjust minutes or bench someone to rest.
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