Ruben Daley wrote: ↑September 20, 2020, 9:20 pm
I’m interested in this, Sleek. I certainly see the captaincy qualities in Elliott and am a massive fan. Two questions though:
1) Don’t you think it would be a huge deal to take the captaincy off Hodgo and particularly Croker?
2) When did we do it before?
1. No. The captaincy is a privilege, not a right. In Croker's case, I think he's had a very long run in the position with sfa success outside of last year when he shared the job with Hodgson. I'd also keep both on as vice-captains of the side so it's not like they wouldn't still have major input into what's going on. I see it as a move that recognises Whitehead's on-field leadership qualities that were obvious to anyone who watched the game today.
2. In 1989, before we won our first premiership.
1. The thing is Elliott has been around long enough to have already been given the captaincy, including when Hodgo got it. Makes it a bit odd to do it now.
I also think you’re underestimating what demoting the two current captains means. It’ll probably happen some time as I think at least Croker will play for as long as he can rather than retire like Mal. I don’t think they deserve to be demoted now.
2. Bit different to compare giving the captaincy to peak Mal Menginga over end-of-his-career Dean Lance to giving the captaincy to Elliot who is older than both the current captains and no guarantee of outlasting either of them.
I reckon Elliott, like Papa and Sia, has a leadership role without needing to be captain. No need to make a big statement.
Ruben Daley wrote: ↑September 20, 2020, 10:31 pm
1. The thing is Elliott has been around long enough to have already been given the captaincy, including when Hodgo got it. Makes it a bit odd to do it now.
I also think you’re underestimating what demoting the two current captains means. It’ll probably happen some time as I think at least Croker will play for as long as he can rather than retire like Mal. I don’t think they deserve to be demoted now.
2. Bit different to compare giving the captaincy to peak Mal Menginga over end-of-his-career Dean Lance to giving the captaincy to Elliot who is older than both the current captains and no guarantee of outlasting either of them.
I reckon Elliott, like Papa and Sia, has a leadership role without needing to be captain. No need to make a big statement.
1. I think you're underestimating the character of Croker and Hodgson. They will go along with what's best for the team.
2. You don't award the captaincy based on who is going to outlast who. You award it on the basis of who's the right man for the job at the time. My thoughts are for next year that's likely to be Whitehead but let's see what happens in the rest of this year first.
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Ruben Daley wrote: ↑September 20, 2020, 10:31 pm
1. The thing is Elliott has been around long enough to have already been given the captaincy, including when Hodgo got it. Makes it a bit odd to do it now.
I also think you’re underestimating what demoting the two current captains means. It’ll probably happen some time as I think at least Croker will play for as long as he can rather than retire like Mal. I don’t think they deserve to be demoted now.
2. Bit different to compare giving the captaincy to peak Mal Menginga over end-of-his-career Dean Lance to giving the captaincy to Elliot who is older than both the current captains and no guarantee of outlasting either of them.
I reckon Elliott, like Papa and Sia, has a leadership role without needing to be captain. No need to make a big statement.
1. I think you're underestimating the character of Croker and Hodgson. They will go along with what's best for the team.
2. You don't award the captaincy based on who is going to outlast who. You award it on the basis of who's the right man for the job at the time. My thoughts are for next year that's likely to be Whitehead but let's see what happens in the rest of this year first.
Fair enough. Will leave it here so we don’t clog up the voting thread.
The following players have picked up points towards the 2020 Fan’s Choice Player of the Year award in the Canberra Raiders Round 19 win against the Warriors. Thank you to all who voted on The GH and on our Facebook Group page.
3 - Elliott Whitehead
2 - Hudson Young
1 - Semi Valemei (on countback)
Round 19 - Votes
Elliott Whitehead 256
Hudson Young 115
Semi Valemei 54 (Semi received more 3 point votes than CNK)
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 54
Joe Tapine 34
Jack Wighton 16
Jarrod Croker 11
Nick Cotric 2
Josh Papalii 2
Total Points
15 - Josh Papalii
15 - Elliott Whitehead
15 - Jack Wighton
14 - George Williams
9 - Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
7 - Joe Tapine
5 - Dunamis Lui
5 - Jordan Rapana
5 - Hudson Young
4 - John Bateman
4 - Nick Cotric
4 - Ryan Sutton
2 - Emre Guler
2 - Siliva Havili
2 - Josh Hodgson
2 - Tom Starling
1 - Jarrod Croker
1 - Curtis Scott
1 - Semi Valemei
