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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
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45%
Raiders 1-12
9
45%
Draw
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5%
Cowboys 1-12
1
5%
Cowboys 13+
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Total votes: 20

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2020 Rd 12 V Cowboys: Teams and Previews

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Canberra Raiders V North Queensland Cowboys
Saturday August 1 5:30pm
Townsville Stadium
TV coverage: Fox League Channel 502
Radio: ABC, 2CC, Mix 106.3

Who would you like to see line up for the Green Machine in Round 12? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Jordan Rapana
2. Semi Valemei
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Curtis Scott
5. Nick Cotric
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Siliva Havili
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Hudson Young

14. Tom Starling
15. Joe Tapine
16. Ryan Sutton
17. Corey Harawira-Naera

18. Sam Williams
19. Harley Smith-Shields
20. Kai O'Donnell
21. Matt Frawley

Injury/Suspension

Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Compound finger dislocation (Rd 13-14)
Michael Oldfield, Hamstring (Rd 13-14)
Emre Guler, Ankle (Rd 17-19)
Corey Horsburgh, Foot (Indefinite, until at least Rd 19, possibly season)
Sia Soliola, Palate (Indefinite, until at least Rd 20, possibly season)
Bailey Simonsson, Shoulder (Season)
Josh Hodgson, Knee (Season)
Andre Niko, Knee (Season)
Sebastian Kris, Extended sick leave

North Queensland Cowboys

1. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow
2. Kyle Feldt
3. Justin O'Neill
4. Connelly Lemuelu
5. Murray Taulagi
6. Daejarn Asi
7. Jake Clifford
8. Josh McGuire
9. Reece Robson
10. Jordan McLean
11. Shane Wright
12. Coen Hess
13. Jason Taumalolo

14. Mitchell Dunn
15. Tom Gilbert
16. Gavin Cooper
17. Francis Molo

18. John Asiata
19. Ben Hampton
20. Esan Marsters
21. Jake Granville

Officials

Referee: Ben Cummins
Touch judges: Belinda Sharpe, Jon Stone
Video referees: Ashley Klein, Bryan Norrie

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Remember we got beat by these jokers last year

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1. Rapana (showed enough tonight)
2. Valemei
3. Croker
4. Smith-Shields
5. Cotric
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Papalii
9. Havili
10. Lui
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine
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14. Starling
15. Harawira-Naera
16. Sutton
17. Bateman
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20. Scott


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easy win
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Same team that beat Souffs lol
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Rapana at fullback then?
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Assuming we can get everyone into QLD and CHN is available.

1. Jordan Rapana
2. Semi Valemei
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Harley Smith-Shields
5. Nick Cotric
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Siliva Havili
10. Dunamis Lui
11. Hudson Young
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Kai O'Donnell

14. Tom Starling
15. Corey Harawira-Naera
16. Ryan Sutton
17. Joseph Tapine

18. Sam Williams
19. Darby Medlyn
20. Matt Frawley
21. John Bateman

If there's a backs injury CHN or Whitehead will be spending some time in the centres.
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Backline picks itself as they’re the only ones available. Forwards depends on availability of bateman and CHN.

Don’t know the story with with Paps and Taps with their flu jab. Story with AFB this week was a big vague. Community sport has recommenced in QLD so no sure why NRL players are still required to have a flu shot when others don’t.
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1. Jordan Rapana
2. Semi Valemei
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Harley Smith-Shields
5. Nick Cotric
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Siliva Havili
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Kai O'Donnell

14. Tom Starling
15. Hudson Young
16. Ryan Sutton
17. Joseph Tapine

18. Corey Harawira-Naera

Assuming Papa and Taps have the green light.

Based on Sticky's presser he sounded super confident in Bateman being back as he was REAL close. He said CHN is more of a fitness thing I don't think they'll play him next week unless they absolutely have to if Papa and Taps are out.
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Bateman and CHN straight in for mine. Cowboys a great team to get straight into it.
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Gee that injury list is ridiculous when you double it down with the releases of Murchie, Bateman and Collins.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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If CHN is capable of playing even 20 minutes it’s worth getting minutes into him ahead of KOD imo
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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CHN on for the final 15 of the first half.
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If the antivaxxers can't get in we might be struggling to make any metres

The pack got out muscled by south's imo. They had less ball but made more overall metres. Go forward was a massive issue and has been this year. Papalii and Tapine have both been making excellent metres themselves though.
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That’s because our 2nd, 3rd and 4th props are out long term. It’s a pretty simple answer to why it’s happening.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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1. Jordan Rapana
2. Nic Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Harley Smith-Shields
5. Semi Valemi
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Siliva Havili
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Hudson Young

14. Tom Starling
15. Joe Tapine
16. Ryan Sutton
17. CHN

Ricky usually just starts guys he needs to pump match fitness into and plays them until they drop, so JB straight in.

The caveat with that is that CHN hasn't even been training with the squad so sounded like he was less certain of him. He'd also affect cohesion even more than a rookie as he doesn't know the plays etc. So he's off the bench, spelling Young at lock.

Almost have to juggle it this way as otherwise we end up a prop short on the bench.

Rapana at FB will be interesting. I thought he had the potential to play there years ago- he has all the skills and vision and has no problem directing others. Bit of a loose cannon though. He'll get a bit more space there and we might finally be able to see just how much running he has in his legs. He was great vs Souffs. Getting his experience back to the club REALLY paid off.
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julian87 wrote: July 26, 2020, 11:43 am That’s because our 2nd, 3rd and 4th props are out long term. It’s a pretty simple answer to why it’s happening.
I mean it's not going to make things better if we lose our two best middle forwards on top of it because they are dumb dumbs
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Are tickets to the games only available to the home team members?
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Pete Cash wrote: July 26, 2020, 12:01 pm
julian87 wrote: July 26, 2020, 11:43 am That’s because our 2nd, 3rd and 4th props are out long term. It’s a pretty simple answer to why it’s happening.
I mean it's not going to make things better if we lose our two best middle forwards on top of it because they are dumb dumbs
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Pete Cash wrote: July 26, 2020, 12:01 pm
julian87 wrote: July 26, 2020, 11:43 am That’s because our 2nd, 3rd and 4th props are out long term. It’s a pretty simple answer to why it’s happening.
I mean it's not going to make things better if we lose our two best middle forwards on top of it because they are dumb dumbs
You are the kind of guy who votes for the Greens.
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1992 wrote: July 26, 2020, 8:09 pm
Pete Cash wrote: July 26, 2020, 12:01 pm
julian87 wrote: July 26, 2020, 11:43 am That’s because our 2nd, 3rd and 4th props are out long term. It’s a pretty simple answer to why it’s happening.
I mean it's not going to make things better if we lose our two best middle forwards on top of it because they are dumb dumbs
You are the kind of guy who votes for the Greens.
Cracking post mate
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James Hooper reckons Bateman will play in the centres. He also thinks we can't win a comp without hodgson.
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julian87 wrote: July 26, 2020, 9:21 am If CHN is capable of playing even 20 minutes it’s worth getting minutes into him ahead of KOD imo
Absolutely. Get him straight in there imo
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I know this week is what the team needs to be 100% focused on getting the 2 points. But I really hope we could find a way to be well in control of the match. I think Papa might need some reduced minutes soon or he might burn out.
Who is everyone else cheering for in the Panther vs Sea Eagles game? I just can’t work out which winner would be better for us.
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Panthers, Sea Eagles are 2 points behind, Panthers are 5 ahead.

If we win and the Panthers win it buys some breathing space

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-TW- wrote: July 26, 2020, 10:40 pm Panthers, Sea Eagles are 2 points behind, Panthers are 5 ahead.

If we win and the Panthers win it buys some breathing space

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That is what I think. But the Sea Eagles win and then we beat them next week we are only 1 point away.
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hopefully after having a few home games, and with the younger players still excited puppies keen for an adventure the players don't struggle as much with the travel
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Bateman in the centres.

Surely Tapine can play in QLD if Cartwright has been up until now. Either way, if the players are in a Covid bubble, I'm reasonably sure the risk of NRL players getting the flu are tiny.
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Why would we use a fill in in the centers when we’ve got Smith-Shields who was sensational on the weekend? Seems a bit of creative license from the couple of journos who have suggested it.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote: July 27, 2020, 6:29 am Why would we use a fill in in the centers when we’ve got Smith-Shields who was sensational on the weekend? Seems a bit of creative license from the couple of journos who have suggested it.
Hes far from a fill in. He played centres for England! But I totally agree, I'd play HSS in the centres. Hes a long term prospect and could go on to be our next JC.

If they choose bateman over him though, I can only assume its to protect the kid. Which I dont agree on, as we have such a good team and culture at the club.
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boomer wrote: July 27, 2020, 7:17 am
julian87 wrote: July 27, 2020, 6:29 am Why would we use a fill in in the centers when we’ve got Smith-Shields who was sensational on the weekend? Seems a bit of creative license from the couple of journos who have suggested it.
Hes far from a fill in. He played centres for England! But I totally agree, I'd play HSS in the centres. Hes a long term prospect and could go on to be our next JC.

If they choose bateman over him though, I can only assume its to protect the kid. Which I dont agree on, as we have such a good team and culture at the club.
I have no real issue with trying HSS in the centres. He played very well in his debut.

However, I'd certainly consider bringing Bateman back in at centre rather than second row if he, Tapine and CHN are cleared to play. We suddenly have more depth in the forwards than we do in the backs now that CNK is out for a couple of weeks.
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julian87 wrote: July 27, 2020, 6:29 am Why would we use a fill in in the centers when we’ve got Smith-Shields who was sensational on the weekend? Seems a bit of creative license from the couple of journos who have suggested it.
Agree.
If HSS is the future, you play him now.
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If Scott isn’t being considered (injury or otherwise) I see no reason Sticky won’t back HSS for a start just like he did Semi. Bateman is a walk up start in his preferred position after what he’s done there. I’d only consider moving him if:

- Due to further injuries, god forbid, there’s no other option but to shift him to centre
- CHN consistently impresses in training and off the bench to the point you have to start him, at which point you might consider Bateman to lock

Aside from there maybe being no spare backs this week, I think a back on the bench is a luxury we can’t afford atm, especially if Tapine is missing.

1. Rapana
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Smith-Shields/Scott
5. Valemei
6. Wighton
7. Williams
8. Papalii
9. Havili
10. Lui
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Young
14. Starling
15. Sutton
16. Tapine/O’Donnell
17. O’Donnel/CHN

Still a pretty strong side all things considered.
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I’m just of the opinion that the forwards are way too skinny to play a world class one at centre. Smith-Shields at centre > KOD in the pack. KOD has done a great job but he doesn’t look a first grader yet imo and has played what 15/20/14 in his 3 appearances. CNK may only be gone a week or 2 as well hopefully.

Bateman/CHN (if available) can sure cover the centres but playing them there would be a real waste of what they offer considering how centres play down the tram lines and have the least impact on the game of any position.

The real conundrum will be if Bateman/CHN/CNK/Scott/Tapine? are all unavailable this game. What would we see? Either Timoko or Frawley/Williams as the 17th player?
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Bateman is passed being an option at starting centre. Whitehead last year was defending better at centre than Bateman was. Even CHN would be a better option there given his speed but that would still be a worse choice than playing the actual outside backs we have available.
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