Canberra Raiders centre Curtis Scott denies he is heading to Canterbury Bulldogs
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Based on last 2 weeks I see no reason to be dropping Scott.
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Some people are going to want blood no matter what.
Scott had a decent game.
In fact, out of all 4 centres out there last night, second behind Naden IMO.
My biggest worry at the moment is Croker. There were times last night where I thought he needs to go on the Chris Lawrence diet and transform into a backrow/utility. I think his days of being untouchable in the backline are numbered.
We can't ignore our lack of speed and strike out wide for another 12 months and hope to achieve something different.
Either we blood HSS into the back line somewhere or restock from outside (Stags perhaps?).
The only two players currently threatening out wide are Cotric (leaving) and Rapana (practically left)....
I fear our overwhelming focus on "defence wins matches" has left us with underwhelming strike options out wide...which will lead to more pressure on Wighton and Williams to break the line themselves instead of finding players who can work with a little space.
Scott had a decent game.
In fact, out of all 4 centres out there last night, second behind Naden IMO.
My biggest worry at the moment is Croker. There were times last night where I thought he needs to go on the Chris Lawrence diet and transform into a backrow/utility. I think his days of being untouchable in the backline are numbered.
We can't ignore our lack of speed and strike out wide for another 12 months and hope to achieve something different.
Either we blood HSS into the back line somewhere or restock from outside (Stags perhaps?).
The only two players currently threatening out wide are Cotric (leaving) and Rapana (practically left)....
I fear our overwhelming focus on "defence wins matches" has left us with underwhelming strike options out wide...which will lead to more pressure on Wighton and Williams to break the line themselves instead of finding players who can work with a little space.
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His defence was still mediocre at best- missed tackles, grabbing instead of hitting and shooting out the line and then missing the bloke, leading to big yards/mini breakaway.gangrenous wrote: ↑August 9, 2020, 11:12 am That’s the standard Scott is getting pass marks for now - “barely noticed him”
Give HSS a crack please. I’d like a player whose ceiling isn’t that he didn’t screw up horribly.
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Curtis has been ok the last 2 games, and IF that is Curtis they are talking about I say congrats to the club.
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So to be clear... you’re concluding this is his ceiling based off a simple size of roughly 15% of his career to date, and that’s “enough” for you.gangrenous wrote: ↑August 9, 2020, 2:09 pm I’m saying it’s his ceiling based on what he’s delivered at the Raiders. I’ve seen enough, let’s see what HSS can do.
Glad you’re not running any of my data if that’s the approach you take, mate
I’d love to see what HSS can do with an extended run, and I think Stuart should have given him that when Scott was dropped, but he didn’t. Since Stuart returned him to the line up he was one our best 5 on field last week, and backed up that up last night with a solid performance. That’s no grounds for being dropped
If HSS put those performances in we’d be pretty excited. Obviously one is a rookie and the other is a 50 game vet... but let’s also keep in mind, HSS is 20 but Scott is only 22 himself. At HSS’s age Scott had 40 games under his belt, a premiership ring, a spot in the PM’s XIII and was touted as a potential origin player.
So I’m going to again push back when people want to take 15% of his career as a sample size and declare this is his ceiling
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I can only imagine the conniption poor Gangers would have if I declared I had seen 15% of the footy this year and that was sample size I used for concluding the officials aren’t out to get us
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There’s nothing inherently wrong about drawing a conclusion from a 15% sample assuming the set is large and the sampling is representative.
But to your point. He’s played 10 games at the Raiders. That’s enough to have a reasonable view of a player. Perhaps after 6 games from Orford we should have reflected that it was only 2.4% of his career and we should not have been so quick to judge?
But to your point. He’s played 10 games at the Raiders. That’s enough to have a reasonable view of a player. Perhaps after 6 games from Orford we should have reflected that it was only 2.4% of his career and we should not have been so quick to judge?
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Maybe you’re on to something here gangers
I just looked at more than 25% of the league’s clubs, Titans, Warriors, raiders and tigers and the only conclusion I can draw is all nrl teams are treated equally!
But yes all silliness aside. 10 games is an OK sample size in a normal situations, I would argue this is not normal, some his own making (the court case) and some not (covid and the disputation in the season when he’s starting at a new club) but even in those 10 games he’s been a solid player or better in 40% of them.
What is confusing to me is how eager people are to see this guy fail. His level of play has improved
And whether you want him to recoup some of his market value so we can send him packing in the off season, or you think he can still be a good player for us longer term, which ever side of that fence you sit on (and to be clear, I think there is fair justification to be on either side of that), the past two games have been good steps forward for your side of the fence
I just looked at more than 25% of the league’s clubs, Titans, Warriors, raiders and tigers and the only conclusion I can draw is all nrl teams are treated equally!
But yes all silliness aside. 10 games is an OK sample size in a normal situations, I would argue this is not normal, some his own making (the court case) and some not (covid and the disputation in the season when he’s starting at a new club) but even in those 10 games he’s been a solid player or better in 40% of them.
What is confusing to me is how eager people are to see this guy fail. His level of play has improved
And whether you want him to recoup some of his market value so we can send him packing in the off season, or you think he can still be a good player for us longer term, which ever side of that fence you sit on (and to be clear, I think there is fair justification to be on either side of that), the past two games have been good steps forward for your side of the fence
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I don’t really care for excuses based on self-inflicted stupidity.
I’m not here to see him fail. I’m just not impressed with what’s being delivered and I’m interested in trying something different.
I’m not here to see him fail. I’m just not impressed with what’s being delivered and I’m interested in trying something different.
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I don't think changing our outside backs is going to do anything while our halves are crabbing sideways. Our attack is bad.
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Agree.. Scott is improving.. our captain however, seems to be one of our weaknesses now, but no one wants to talk about that...
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Don't forget storm are paying freight on Scott for this year and next, he's probably only costing 200k on the cap..Botman wrote: ↑August 9, 2020, 5:11 pm Maybe you’re on to something here gangers
I just looked at more than 25% of the league’s clubs, Titans, Warriors, raiders and tigers and the only conclusion I can draw is all nrl teams are treated equally!
But yes all silliness aside. 10 games is an OK sample size in a normal situations, I would argue this is not normal, some his own making (the court case) and some not (covid and the disputation in the season when he’s starting at a new club) but even in those 10 games he’s been a solid player or better in 40% of them.
What is confusing to me is how eager people are to see this guy fail. His level of play has improved
And whether you want him to recoup some of his market value so we can send him packing in the off season, or you think he can still be a good player for us longer term, which ever side of that fence you sit on (and to be clear, I think there is fair justification to be on either side of that), the past two games have been good steps forward for your side of the fence
I thought he played solid, made like 4 tackles in one set at one stage ..
Happy to give him another shot at this stage..
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Absolutely. He's not crippling us.
If this IS his ceiling, we can eat **** on this contract and survive. It's not a cap crippling situation, even if we eat the entirity of it and he just never does anything but suck ****.
Especially if it's supplimented by someone like HSS stepping up on a lower teir deal. Things can line up nicely where if HSS is the real deal, we're probably out of the Scott situation before we have to pay him.
But whatever resolution you want from this Scott situation, him playing solid NRL footy is good for that resolution.
If this IS his ceiling, we can eat **** on this contract and survive. It's not a cap crippling situation, even if we eat the entirity of it and he just never does anything but suck ****.
Especially if it's supplimented by someone like HSS stepping up on a lower teir deal. Things can line up nicely where if HSS is the real deal, we're probably out of the Scott situation before we have to pay him.
But whatever resolution you want from this Scott situation, him playing solid NRL footy is good for that resolution.
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Bellamy - he sure knows how to get rid of garbage - if he could not get them playing better then no one else can. Getting rid of Brodie Croft and Scott in one off season would have made his XmasNeeeegz wrote: ↑August 9, 2020, 8:36 pmDon't forget storm are paying freight on Scott for this year and next, he's probably only costing 200k on the cap..Botman wrote: ↑August 9, 2020, 5:11 pm Maybe you’re on to something here gangers
I just looked at more than 25% of the league’s clubs, Titans, Warriors, raiders and tigers and the only conclusion I can draw is all nrl teams are treated equally!
But yes all silliness aside. 10 games is an OK sample size in a normal situations, I would argue this is not normal, some his own making (the court case) and some not (covid and the disputation in the season when he’s starting at a new club) but even in those 10 games he’s been a solid player or better in 40% of them.
What is confusing to me is how eager people are to see this guy fail. His level of play has improved
And whether you want him to recoup some of his market value so we can send him packing in the off season, or you think he can still be a good player for us longer term, which ever side of that fence you sit on (and to be clear, I think there is fair justification to be on either side of that), the past two games have been good steps forward for your side of the fence
I thought he played solid, made like 4 tackles in one set at one stage ..
Happy to give him another shot at this stage..
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Our attack isnt bad because of Croker i dont think. He still hasn enough speed. I said on the other thread he isnts a T1 centre and thats why his rep career isnt great. But he is a solid player still.
I believe our issue is down to of both structured set plays and also creativity. Williams needs to offer more than the occasional good run. All we seem to rely on is Wightons side. Papalii scoring should be a bonus not something we should be banking on each game.
I am a believer and do think we have the personel to turn it around. Its down to leadership.
I believe our issue is down to of both structured set plays and also creativity. Williams needs to offer more than the occasional good run. All we seem to rely on is Wightons side. Papalii scoring should be a bonus not something we should be banking on each game.
I am a believer and do think we have the personel to turn it around. Its down to leadership.
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Our attack isn't breaking down when it gets to the centres. It's not even getting warm before that.
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Yep, our centres haven't been great with the ball this year, but we still need to get a bit more structure out of our halves now that Hodgo is out. I think the talent and desire is there, they just don't look cohesive. They certainly haven't improved on last season.
Still a couple of months to go before crunch time, so hopefully with a bit of luck with injuries we can start to improve.
Still a couple of months to go before crunch time, so hopefully with a bit of luck with injuries we can start to improve.
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Keeping it simple might be the solution. Give them some early ball. This was very effective in 2016 when BJ and Croker were the stand out centres in the NRL. One of Croker's main strengths is wrong footing the defense and slipping the ball to his support. Doesn't get the chance to do that when he's receiving it at the line. Scott we really don't know what he's capable of so let's give him the opportunity.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 10:58 am Yep, our centres haven't been great with the ball this year, but we still need to get a bit more structure out of our halves now that Hodgo is out. I think the talent and desire is there, they just don't look cohesive. They certainly haven't improved on last season.
Still a couple of months to go before crunch time, so hopefully with a bit of luck with injuries we can start to improve.
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I find our attacking is a bit too predictable, especially when Wighton is going down the left edge to croker and then when CNK gets the ball he will always run it and not pass.
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That's reportedly what Kikau said before the game. "Just give me early ball." He wanted to put Bateman in his box and it worked.Northern Raider wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 11:18 amKeeping it simple might be the solution. Give them some early ball. This was very effective in 2016 when BJ and Croker were the stand out centres in the NRL. One of Croker's main strengths is wrong footing the defense and slipping the ball to his support. Doesn't get the chance to do that when he's receiving it at the line. Scott we really don't know what he's capable of so let's give him the opportunity.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 10:58 am Yep, our centres haven't been great with the ball this year, but we still need to get a bit more structure out of our halves now that Hodgo is out. I think the talent and desire is there, they just don't look cohesive. They certainly haven't improved on last season.
Still a couple of months to go before crunch time, so hopefully with a bit of luck with injuries we can start to improve.
NRL defences are pretty sophisticated these days, but it's still a fundamentally easy game. Our halves have good running games and have genuine football instincts. They should be given every chance possible to play what's in front of them.
Croker is getting shepherded towards the sideline too often these days, but he still has nice footwork in traffic and is good under the high ball. For whatever reason most of his carries are coming out of our defensive end, which is admirable from him, but has never been his forte. We do miss BJ's carries at that end of the field as it's not Scott's forte either. The both need early and deeper ball to use their agility rather than power at the line.
Anyway, all good in theory!
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Yeah, it's a case of working to strengths. Our current style might be more suited to big power centres like Best, Suli, Olam etc. Croker and Scott are not like those guys. They need a bit more room to work with to utilise their skills.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 1:18 pmThat's reportedly what Kikau said before the game. "Just give me early ball." He wanted to put Bateman in his box and it worked.Northern Raider wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 11:18 amKeeping it simple might be the solution. Give them some early ball. This was very effective in 2016 when BJ and Croker were the stand out centres in the NRL. One of Croker's main strengths is wrong footing the defense and slipping the ball to his support. Doesn't get the chance to do that when he's receiving it at the line. Scott we really don't know what he's capable of so let's give him the opportunity.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 10:58 am Yep, our centres haven't been great with the ball this year, but we still need to get a bit more structure out of our halves now that Hodgo is out. I think the talent and desire is there, they just don't look cohesive. They certainly haven't improved on last season.
Still a couple of months to go before crunch time, so hopefully with a bit of luck with injuries we can start to improve.
NRL defences are pretty sophisticated these days, but it's still a fundamentally easy game. Our halves have good running games and have genuine football instincts. They should be given every chance possible to play what's in front of them.
Croker is getting shepherded towards the sideline too often these days, but he still has nice footwork in traffic and is good under the high ball. For whatever reason most of his carries are coming out of our defensive end, which is admirable from him, but has never been his forte. We do miss BJ's carries at that end of the field as it's not Scott's forte either. The both need early and deeper ball to use their agility rather than power at the line.
Anyway, all good in theory!
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Imagine blaming our centres for our attacking struggles when the only time they receive the ball is with a player in their face.
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Indeed.Raider Azz wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 1:56 pm Imagine blaming our centres for our attacking struggles when the only time they receive the ball is with a player in their face.
The real question is why do our centres constantly have defenders in their face?
And imo the answer is simple.
Teams exclusively jam us, because the only way to beat the jam is if your halves can consistently throw the money ball to the unmarked winger, and whilst both our halves have made that pass before neither do so consistently... or you need a good ball playing fullback, which we dont have.
So it's basically a free pass to jam our edge players from the 2nd row into the centre and say to the Raiders "we'll take our chances that you can make the money pass enough to beat us" and for the good teams who dont give up easy points. They're generally right.
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I think another factor is space, or lack of. Our set plays leave our centre and winger inside the 10m (sideline) rails. This is partly because we tend to setup our plays from the middle of the field rather than a whole width of the field sweeping play. Our outside backs have no space. We also rely on our second rowers to be creative instead of our halves.Botman wrote:Indeed.Raider Azz wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 1:56 pm Imagine blaming our centres for our attacking struggles when the only time they receive the ball is with a player in their face.
The real question is why do our centres constantly have defenders in their face?
And imo the answer is simple.
Teams exclusively jam us, because the only way to beat the jam is if your halves can consistently throw the money ball to the unmarked winger, and whilst both our halves have made that pass before neither do so consistently... or you need a good ball playing fullback, which we dont have.
So it's basically a free pass to jam our edge players from the 2nd row into the centre and say to the Raiders "we'll take our chances that you can make the money pass enough to beat us" and for the good teams who dont give up easy points. They're generally right.
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I think he has been one of our better players the past 2 rounds. If he keeps putting in as he is i will have absolutely no concerns with him occupying our right center spot.
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They do jam us, but I don't think it's to herd our backs into the centre of the field. It's because they absolutely know for 100% certain that we'll be running every goddam play straight up the guts for at least the first three tackles. That allows them to smash the ball runner with three or four in every tackle, drive us backwards, slow down the play the ball, and therefore make whatever subsequent sweep plays we attempt completely pedestrian.Botman wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 2:00 pm The real question is why do our centres constantly have defenders in their face?
And imo the answer is simple.
Teams exclusively jam us, because the only way to beat the jam is if your halves can consistently throw the money ball to the unmarked winger, and whilst both our halves have made that pass before neither do so consistently... or you need a good ball playing fullback, which we dont have.
So it's basically a free pass to jam our edge players from the 2nd row into the centre and say to the Raiders "we'll take our chances that you can make the money pass enough to beat us" and for the good teams who dont give up easy points. They're generally right.
Without a quick play the ball, attempting to throw a long ball over a well-set defensive line is next to impossible. We need some momentum in our sets prior to going for the jugular...this was brought into sharp relief in the first 10 minutes against the Panthers where we just went side-to side...with no impact whatsoever.
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They're not trying herd our backs into the centre, they're just lining up and smashing them knowing we cant hit the unmarked winger within our basic structure.
But that would be a minor quibble with that post and otherwise i wouldnt disagree with any of that.... i dont think it would matter how much time we'd have to run a sweep play, it would still be pedestrian, but the lack of imagination on our sets and the lack of general ball movement and bodies in motion further exacerbates the problems that come with a fullback who struggles to pass.
There is a saying in the NFL that "it's not about the x's and o's but about the jimmy's and joes" which is basically saying you can have the best plan on earth but if you dont have the talent you're cooked. What we have on hand is the reverse. The Raiders team is pretty talented, but the plan we're working too isnt suited to where our talent lies and where we have edges on the opposition
Our problems in attack are mostly (though not entirely, as per my concerns about CNK and his limitations as a fullback) failure of structure and system, not personnel. We just dont ask a lot questions of the opposition, we dont make them defend the width of the field and put them into pressure situations that can produce bad reads. We're a very simple and basic team to defend
But that would be a minor quibble with that post and otherwise i wouldnt disagree with any of that.... i dont think it would matter how much time we'd have to run a sweep play, it would still be pedestrian, but the lack of imagination on our sets and the lack of general ball movement and bodies in motion further exacerbates the problems that come with a fullback who struggles to pass.
There is a saying in the NFL that "it's not about the x's and o's but about the jimmy's and joes" which is basically saying you can have the best plan on earth but if you dont have the talent you're cooked. What we have on hand is the reverse. The Raiders team is pretty talented, but the plan we're working too isnt suited to where our talent lies and where we have edges on the opposition
Our problems in attack are mostly (though not entirely, as per my concerns about CNK and his limitations as a fullback) failure of structure and system, not personnel. We just dont ask a lot questions of the opposition, we dont make them defend the width of the field and put them into pressure situations that can produce bad reads. We're a very simple and basic team to defend
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Id like to see wighton play a fullback role on the right at some pointBotman wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 8:43 pm They're not trying herd our backs into the centre, they're just lining up and smashing them knowing we cant hit the unmarked winger within our basic structure.
But that would be a minor quibble with that post and otherwise i wouldnt disagree with any of that.... i dont think it would matter how much time we'd have to run a sweep play, it would still be pedestrian, but the lack of imagination on our sets and the lack of general ball movement and bodies in motion further exacerbates the problems that come with a fullback who struggles to pass.
There is a saying in the NFL that "it's not about the x's and o's but about the jimmy's and joes" which is basically saying you can have the best plan on earth but if you dont have the talent you're cooked. What we have on hand is the reverse. The Raiders team is pretty talented, but the plan we're working too isnt suited to where our talent lies and where we have edges on the opposition
Our problems in attack are mostly (though not entirely, as per my concerns about CNK and his limitations as a fullback) failure of structure and system, not personnel. We just dont ask a lot questions of the opposition, we dont make them defend the width of the field and put them into pressure situations that can produce bad reads. We're a very simple and basic team to defend
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There are a number of contributing factors here. With stuarts decision to focus on defence, it has affected our roster managment (replacing attacking players like bj with defensive players like scott). I think it also has a bearing on our structures. When you are an attacking team, as we were in 16, 17, 18, you need to take risks to ensure you score plenty. I learned during that time we couldn't win games unless we scored 22 points. However, in order to be at your best defensively you need the energy reserves to draw on when defending. This makes for very conservative, grinding footy which has been a hallmark for the storm for years. To make matters worse this year weve lost our general who leads our attack. Weve also had an incredible amount of turn over with new players in key positions (george and scott) plus shuffles due to injury. I think our attack will improve with more stability of our roster. Until then we will be clunky, and i dont at all agree the cnk is in any way the problem. Apart from being a bit shaky under the high ball, i think he is the best full back weve had since President Clinton. This boy can pass. I admit he does err on holding on to it but again i reckon that is underpinned by our defensive focus and preference to not take risks
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Yes, I agree that our attacking structure is woeful, but I also think personnel is playing into it too.Botman wrote: ↑August 10, 2020, 8:43 pm There is a saying in the NFL that "it's not about the x's and o's but about the jimmy's and joes" which is basically saying you can have the best plan on earth but if you dont have the talent you're cooked. What we have on hand is the reverse. The Raiders team is pretty talented, but the plan we're working too isnt suited to where our talent lies and where we have edges on the opposition
Our problems in attack are mostly (though not entirely, as per my concerns about CNK and his limitations as a fullback) failure of structure and system, not personnel. We just dont ask a lot questions of the opposition, we dont make them defend the width of the field and put them into pressure situations that can produce bad reads. We're a very simple and basic team to defend
In terms of attacking brilliance, Scott is below average, Croker (circa 2020) is below average (except for kick-chase), CNK is below average (I know he eats up the metres, but he's not a line-breaker or try-assist merchant like the top tier fullbacks), I hate to say this...but Rapana is below average (he doesn't have the speed or power that he used to circa 2016). Our only back five player who's better than average is Cotric, and even in his case, it's more about metres and finishing rather than actually generating clean breaks. I think we need an injection of X-factor speed from HSS desperately...in addition to a huge amount of work on our structure.
George and Jack are the right people for the job, but George needs to get the ball more often every set (working both sides of the ruck). Jack is more of a Laurie Daley-type 'power 5/8', and he gets too much ball in sweep plays which require him to pass the ball on...he's better in unstructured broken-field play, or alternatively, getting the ball wider out where his option to run doesn't kill the whole play.
Re: Canberra Raiders centre Curtis Scott denies he is heading to Canterbury Bulldogs
HSS isnt known for being a speed demon though. My understanding of the kid is he's got speed on a similar level to those we have in the team now, and he's stylistically more of a Croker type over say a BJ type (as in he'll beat you guile more than he will with speed/strength)... but i admittedly have not seen much of him, my commitment to following the lower levels of this club have fallen off since i've had kids. So that's based on what i've been told about him, rather than anything i've seen.
I agree re: getting George the ball more, it's infuriating seeing all the footy go Jack's way and it feels like George is making some solid hay with limited opportunities.
I agree re: getting George the ball more, it's infuriating seeing all the footy go Jack's way and it feels like George is making some solid hay with limited opportunities.
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I largely agree with botmans analysis of the ball playing and centres.
I actually think it is more of an issue on the left as well because wighton (rightly so sees himself as the most threatening player) and runs into the space taking it away from others. He needs to mix this up with early ball to croker or straightening up and throwing a money ball to whom ever the winger is, or dropping a little kick in behind, probably being wightons short kicking game and cut out pass game isnt very good....
In respect to our attack on the right, the ball largely doesnt go further then the half / second rower so who knows.. georgie showed he could throw the money ball v melbourne, we just havent seen the ball go there enough to judge imo.
That all said, we lost that game because our defence was a bit off early and penrith were excellent, our attack was much of the same.
I actually think it is more of an issue on the left as well because wighton (rightly so sees himself as the most threatening player) and runs into the space taking it away from others. He needs to mix this up with early ball to croker or straightening up and throwing a money ball to whom ever the winger is, or dropping a little kick in behind, probably being wightons short kicking game and cut out pass game isnt very good....
In respect to our attack on the right, the ball largely doesnt go further then the half / second rower so who knows.. georgie showed he could throw the money ball v melbourne, we just havent seen the ball go there enough to judge imo.
That all said, we lost that game because our defence was a bit off early and penrith were excellent, our attack was much of the same.
Re: Canberra Raiders centre Curtis Scott denies he is heading to Canterbury Bulldogs
If Starling leaves us at the end of the season it might be worth investing in a livewire bench utility style of player.
Someone to bring on when we need points not defence.
Someone to bring on when we need points not defence.
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Re: Canberra Raiders centre Curtis Scott denies he is heading to Canterbury Bulldogs
I've said for a few years now it's the position we haven't filled at the club. That Swiss Army Knife type of player that can fill multiple roles. Even one with a bit of X factor. Connor Watson, AJ Brimson type. Very handy to have in the squad.
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