Ennis - Sign Billy Walters
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Ennis - Sign Billy Walters
The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign
With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.
“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.
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With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.
“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.
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I could get behind that.
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Is he any better than Starling or Havili?
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Afgyehrnfj - no thanks.
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Havili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
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Disagree with Matt here.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 9:57 amHavili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
He is definitely not better than Havili or Starling. He is a career reserve grade five eighth. He’s not even a hooker. He was utilized there by Maguire until he signed an actual hooker then was put back to the reserves where he belongs.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Strange that Ennis said this instead of talking up Tom Starling. Can’t be good for his confidence.
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Im with Afgyehrnfj. No thanks, Walters wouldnt move the needle for us at all, so at that point why bother?
If a needle moving hooker becomes an option, id really consider it, but otherwise we probably just gotta roll with Starling and Havilii
If a needle moving hooker becomes an option, id really consider it, but otherwise we probably just gotta roll with Starling and Havilii
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Interesting vote of confidence in Havili and Starling from Ennis.
On a related topic, I'm not sure if it's a coincidence or not, but Hodgo's performance out of dummy half has been wayward during the period that Ennis has not been able to work with the squad at training. It would be good for Stuart to somehow get him involved with Havili and Starling.
On a related topic, I'm not sure if it's a coincidence or not, but Hodgo's performance out of dummy half has been wayward during the period that Ennis has not been able to work with the squad at training. It would be good for Stuart to somehow get him involved with Havili and Starling.
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That's what I thought. If we didn't have Starling there I would be happy for the club to go for it.
I think Starling deserves a crack. I've heard he's been training well and from the players/club social media he looks like a well-liked member of the squad. He'd be pretty disappointed if not given the chance.
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Starling a bigger body? How do you make this stuff up seriously? He literally weighs no more than 82KG, I've always thought he was a small build, but weighing in at 82kg probably makes him one of, if not the smallest player in nrl. And when you say "bigger body" you can't seriously be comparing him to havili, like cmon now.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 9:57 amHavili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
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He’s talking Walters there I’d say
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Starling is indeed a bigger body..... than Tattoo from Fantasy Island.
Well I think he’s bigger?????
Well I think he’s bigger?????
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Walters is the bigger body. Im aware Starling is a light weight. The original Q i was answering was is he (Walters) any better?GMGT wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 10:28 amStarling a bigger body? How do you make this stuff up seriously? He literally weighs no more than 82KG, I've always thought he was a small build, but weighing in at 82kg probably makes him one of, if not the smallest player in nrl. And when you say "bigger body" you can't seriously be comparing him to havili, like cmon now.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 9:57 amHavili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
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No worries, apologies mate!Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 10:48 amWalters is the bigger body. Im aware Starling is a light weight. The original Q i was answering was is he (Walters) any better?GMGT wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 10:28 amStarling a bigger body? How do you make this stuff up seriously? He literally weighs no more than 82KG, I've always thought he was a small build, but weighing in at 82kg probably makes him one of, if not the smallest player in nrl. And when you say "bigger body" you can't seriously be comparing him to havili, like cmon now.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 9:57 amHavili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
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No dramasGMGT wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 11:10 amNo worries, apologies mate!Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 10:48 amWalters is the bigger body. Im aware Starling is a light weight. The original Q i was answering was is he (Walters) any better?GMGT wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 10:28 amStarling a bigger body? How do you make this stuff up seriously? He literally weighs no more than 82KG, I've always thought he was a small build, but weighing in at 82kg probably makes him one of, if not the smallest player in nrl. And when you say "bigger body" you can't seriously be comparing him to havili, like cmon now.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 9:57 amHavili yes. Havili is a middle these days with the ability to play at 9.
Starling, not sure, but probably. But he is a bigger body, who can play 80 at 9. Looked good for Tigz pre Grant.
Id only look for the rest of this yr, coz there is no spot next yr here. He is just bidding his time til Grant returns to Storm too.
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if we were to sign him would Siliva Start and Walters be the bench option
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Not sure.
The only reason we'd sign this guy and not a middle that I can think of is that if we sign this guy we don't need to pick up a middle- Siliva can be our middle forward and not have to focus on hooking.
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that's what i was thinking a roving lock type of role
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If we signed him, Walters would play 9, and Havili will continue to play middle. People realise Havili has been playing middle (probably prop) this yr right?
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I think people realise that- but are factoring in that with Hodgo gone, Siliva would now be our #9 in many peoples planning. Which takes him out of our middle rotation.
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Sure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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Chasing any reserve grade hooker would be a panic buy right now. Seen nothing from Walters in his limited NRL game time to suggest he's an immedaite upgrade on Havili or Starling.
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Either way Havili will be removed from the middled forward rotation. I doubt Starling will be playing 80 mins so he'll be in the hooking role either starting or from the bench.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:26 pmSure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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I dont think he will be removed from the middle rotation, but he will be 50/50 middle/9, meaning KOD or someone else will have to play a few extraNorthern Raider wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:45 pmEither way Havili will be removed from the middled forward rotation. I doubt Starling will be playing 80 mins so he'll be in the hooking role either starting or from the bench.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:26 pmSure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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I'm not at all sure that that is what he meant. I thought he meant that Starling is the back up on the bench, for Havili.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:26 pmSure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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For that to happen it would be something like 20 min at hooker and 20 min at middle forward. That would require Starling to play 60 mins at hooker. Tough ask given he hasn't played a game for months.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:58 pmI dont think he will be removed from the middle rotation, but he will be 50/50 middle/9, meaning KOD or someone else will have to play a few extraNorthern Raider wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:45 pmEither way Havili will be removed from the middled forward rotation. I doubt Starling will be playing 80 mins so he'll be in the hooking role either starting or from the bench.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:26 pmSure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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Given our middles crisis, Ricky would be crazy to not have Havili do a bit of both, and in that instance you start Starling, coz if he gets injured, you dont want Havili gassed alreadygreeneyed wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 3:01 pmI'm not at all sure that that is what he meant. I thought he meant that Starling is the back up on the bench, for Havili.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:26 pmSure. But the coach said Starling is our backup hooker immediately after the game. So Liva is game day backup hooker still.
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Could be in 2 stints. If memory serves, he was one of, if not the, fittest bloke at the club in preseason. Now, yes, a lot of water under the bridge between then and now, BUT, like most hookers, they seem to love to keep running.Northern Raider wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 3:21 pmFor that to happen it would be something like 20 min at hooker and 20 min at middle forward. That would require Starling to play 60 mins at hooker. Tough ask given he hasn't played a game for months.Matt wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:58 pmI dont think he will be removed from the middle rotation, but he will be 50/50 middle/9, meaning KOD or someone else will have to play a few extraNorthern Raider wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 2:45 pmEither way Havili will be removed from the middled forward rotation. I doubt Starling will be playing 80 mins so he'll be in the hooking role either starting or from the bench.
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IMO the best way to manage it for Stick is start Havili and bring Starling on around 30 min. He then has the option bring Havili back at hooker when needed. If around the 60 min mark Starling is going fine then Havili can have his 2nd stint in the middle.
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I agree, I think something like that is what the coach will do, but I've been wrong about that before!Northern Raider wrote: ↑July 13, 2020, 4:23 pm IMO the best way to manage it for Stick is start Havili and bring Starling on around 30 min. He then has the option bring Havili back at hooker when needed. If around the 60 min mark Starling is going fine then Havili can have his 2nd stint in the middle.
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Yeah i think NR has hit it on the head there, i think that's probably the best way forward
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....and if all that goes to **** we can then look at Billy Walters.
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