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Seeing the Covid news this morning, I suspect 2020 will end up as the season that never was.

Hopefully it doesn't void the Raiders' share of bad luck. It would be a shame to have to carry that over.
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Horrible news. 2020 just keeps delivering
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Matt wrote:Horrible news. 2020 just keeps delivering
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-TW- wrote:CNK
Rapana
Croker
Oldfield
Cotric
Wighton
Williams
Papa
Havilli
Lui
Young
Whitehead
O'Donnell

Starling
Tapine
Sutton
Scott

Frawley
HSS
Medlyn
S Williams
Valemi

Then Kris (TBA)

That's pretty grim

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What about Sam Williams at 9? Defence might be an issue though
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It’s not the end of the world. If we can crack the top 8 we will get Bateman, Sia, Horsburgh and Guler back in time for the finals. As big a blow as losing Hodgson is, we get adequate back up in Havilii and our backline, less Simonssen, is virtually intact. We can hopefully sign a few decent replacements especially forwards without losing too much in the forward pack. I would also like to see more of Starling at hooker or perhaps even trial Sam Williams there, as Havilii isnt the creative type.

I honestly think we can rebound and we will have most of our starting squad, less Hodgo, back in time for the finals.
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-TW- wrote: July 12, 2020, 5:45 pm CNK
Rapana
Croker
Oldfield
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Wighton
Williams
Papa
Havilli
Lui
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Whitehead
O'Donnell

Starling
Tapine
Sutton
Scott

Frawley
HSS
Medlyn
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Valemi

Then Kris (TBA)

That's pretty grim

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Pretty grim for our standards, yeah. That team is probably still better than half of the teams in the comp though.
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Well who ever replaces Hodgson has a simple game plan to follow. Get the forwards rolling and early ball to the halves. Hold the middle in defence! No fancy stuff
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The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
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LastRaider wrote: July 13, 2020, 7:46 am Well who ever replaces Hodgson has a simple game plan to follow. Get the forwards rolling and early ball to the halves. Hold the middle in defence! No fancy stuff
Yes.

Havilli can do this. Just gotta hold off on the hero go it alone stuff that he sometimes does that introduces errors.
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Ricky said straight after the game that Tommy Starling was our backup 9. What little we have seen of him, he is a diminutive, very fit, jack rabbit type 9 - a poorest mans Cook, if you will. Given we are still short on middles, I think Havili will have to play a bit of 9 and a bit of middle going forward. If Starling can go 80, then that would be great, but Im expecting 55-60. Will be interesting to see if its 1 stint or 2.

On the weekend, Lui and Papa played 60 mins, Tapine and Havili played 50, and Sutton 45 (Havili, Lui and Tapine all played inflated mins due to injuries, and Rapa got 5mins in the middle before Simmo went down too). KOD only played 20, and we only used 7 interchanges. No, as it turns out the only reason we didnt was because Ricky was saving it for Havili if he got gassed.

So, had Hodgo not gone down, I suspect it would have been Papa 55 (2 stints), Sutton 50 (1 stint over HT break), Lui 40 (2 stints), Tapine 35 (1 stint over HT break), Havili 30 (1 stint over HT break), KOD 30 (2 stints).
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greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
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Matt wrote:
greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
Can he play in the halves as well? Could also be a SWilliams replacement

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Matt wrote:
greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
Didn't they say last week that the loan/transfer deal (Grant/Momirovski) would be extended for next year?

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Sid wrote: July 13, 2020, 10:10 am
Matt wrote:
greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
He can, yes. 5/8
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
Can he play in the halves as well? Could also be a SWilliams replacement

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gergreg wrote: July 13, 2020, 10:22 am
Matt wrote:
greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
Didn't they say last week that the loan/transfer deal (Grant/Momirovski) would be extended for next year?

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Matt wrote:
gergreg wrote: July 13, 2020, 10:22 am
Matt wrote:
greeneyed wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:00 am The famous name the Canberra Raiders need to sign

With the news star hooker Josh Hodgson won’t be back from a knee injury this season, Michael Ennis says the club should go to market and find a hooker to sign for the rest of the season.

“Siliva Havili has been outstanding, and he was terrific for them last night as well,” Ennis said. “I would love to see them give someone like Billy Walters an opportunity. I know he’s at the Wests Tigers (but) he’s not getting a go there.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... cab8fbbe30

I'm no Hodgson but Havili better prepared to step into big boots

Siliva Havili happily concedes he's "no Josh Hodgson" but the experience he gained when covering for the injured co-captain in 2018 will help the Raiders kick on without their inspirational leader.

"It's going to be big shoes to fill, he's our skipper, a big part of our team and a big-name player," Havili said.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/07/12/im- ... big-boots/
Walters is actually a pretty good player. He would be a very handy addition for this yr, but he is biding his time until Grant returns to the Storm next yr. So if its only for the rest of the yr, then fine, BUT, if its longer, what do we do with him next yr?
Didn't they say last week that the loan/transfer deal (Grant/Momirovski) would be extended for next year?

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Not sure. I havent seen that, but it benefits everyone.
they only grabbed Grant because they lost Liddle, so Billy would be still behind him next season

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Matt wrote: July 13, 2020, 9:43 am Ricky said straight after the game that Tommy Starling was our backup 9. What little we have seen of him, he is a diminutive, very fit, jack rabbit type 9 - a poorest mans Cook, if you will. Given we are still short on middles, I think Havili will have to play a bit of 9 and a bit of middle going forward. If Starling can go 80, then that would be great, but Im expecting 55-60. Will be interesting to see if its 1 stint or 2.
My vivid memory of the one time I saw him play in person last year (Tigers at Bankwest) was that like five seconds after coming on he crunched one of the biggest dudes on the park with a perfect under-the-ribs hit. Immediate like.
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raiderskater wrote: July 13, 2020, 4:47 pm
Matt wrote: July 13, 2020, 9:43 am Ricky said straight after the game that Tommy Starling was our backup 9. What little we have seen of him, he is a diminutive, very fit, jack rabbit type 9 - a poorest mans Cook, if you will. Given we are still short on middles, I think Havili will have to play a bit of 9 and a bit of middle going forward. If Starling can go 80, then that would be great, but Im expecting 55-60. Will be interesting to see if its 1 stint or 2.
My vivid memory of the one time I saw him play in person last year (Tigers at Bankwest) was that like five seconds after coming on he crunched one of the biggest dudes on the park with a perfect under-the-ribs hit. Immediate like.
Yep. I remember a couple of similar tackles. Baptiste and Toovey were similar little guys with just that good technique to get under and drive up. Not saying he's that good, but he seems to hold his own in defence just fine, both eye and stats suggest he'll be ok there.
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Dr Zaius wrote: July 13, 2020, 8:32 pm Where is the Baptise these days?
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 12, 2020, 9:33 pm
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