His centre stocks are not much better.
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
I'd take brenko over Scott based on form currently
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That’s the thing though. You could just about guarantee that Lee, Seve and Olam are all on minimum wage. If there was ever a system that would turn around Brenko’s career it’s Melbourne. That team has made mediocre centres and second rowers look like brilliant attacking players for years.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Yeah fair point.julian87 wrote: ↑June 25, 2020, 6:26 amThat’s the thing though. You could just about guarantee that Lee, Seve and Olam are all on minimum wage. If there was ever a system that would turn around Brenko’s career it’s Melbourne. That team has made mediocre centres and second rowers look like brilliant attacking players for years.
Though I think it’s a stretch to say any of their mediocre centres have ever looked like brilliant attacking players. Cheyse Blair springs to mind. He was hopelessly outplayed when it came to the business end of the season.
Olam, Seve and Lee are yet to do anything brilliant. While the #1 and #7 positions are what have cost Melbourne their strongest possible start to the season, their centres are obvious weaknesses and deserve a lot of traffic thrown their way.
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Centres don't win games anymore. I remember when they were one of the most important positions on the field. Now they're just a second pair of second rower. Generally speaking of course.
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
Scott had his best game in terms of errors and try causes. He was still a 2/10.
Honestly he's worse than Brett Kelly. At least Kelly had some aggression.
Honestly he's worse than Brett Kelly. At least Kelly had some aggression.
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If we lose Bateman and/or Cotric, plus Leilua to sign Scott... **** me this club.
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
Can we sell him to Wigan?
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
Scott is slow and cannot make even one break. But Ricky will persist.
To be fair, Rapana was @#$% - cannot catch a cold and old and slow
To be fair, Rapana was @#$% - cannot catch a cold and old and slow
Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
Our best backline is
Cotric - Croker - Leilua - Rapana
But some wise folks on here and in the Raiders boardroom determined that Scott was better than BJ, and managed to make themselves look foolish and destroyed our season prospects.
Cotric - Croker - Leilua - Rapana
But some wise folks on here and in the Raiders boardroom determined that Scott was better than BJ, and managed to make themselves look foolish and destroyed our season prospects.
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
I've seen enough now. Cotric to right centre, Simonnson to left wing.
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How bad is Scott? He looks like a park footballer out there. His defense is meh and offers NOTHING in attack. NOTHING.
NOTHING!
Is it because he’s good looking? Is it because he’s an ex Melbourne player and apparently all Melbourne players are good at football? Is he still suffering the affects of being tasered?
Please explain.
NOTHING!
Is it because he’s good looking? Is it because he’s an ex Melbourne player and apparently all Melbourne players are good at football? Is he still suffering the affects of being tasered?
Please explain.
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Hes clearly not up to first grand standard
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He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball
Cannot break a tackle or create a try.
@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.
Cannot break a tackle or create a try.
@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.
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Re: Curtis Scott and our best backline
Honestly Oldfield is streets ahead of Scott.
Scott should be the squad filler
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I hope we kept the packaging.
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That grab on Lane concerned me more than plenty of other things people have been complaining about.Hong Kong Raider wrote:He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball
Cannot break a tackle or create a try.
@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.
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My thoughts too. Oldy has the odd drop ball and bad defensive error but we know he's fast, dangerous in attack and can find the tryline. With Scott I'm only seeing those bad parts without the silver lining.
I was initially patient because Scott was finding his feet in a new team. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any upside with him.
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That's the concern right. As Botman mentioned he didn't have an especially error prone match yesterday, and yet he still exerted precisely zero positives in contributions to our performance. If only he was as tough and rugged as his tatts are.Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 9:29 amMy thoughts too. Oldy has the odd drop ball and bad defensive error but we know he's fast, dangerous in attack and can find the tryline. With Scott I'm only seeing those bad parts without the silver lining.
I was initially patient because Scott was finding his feet in a new team. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any upside with him.
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He is a bust.
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A high performing team wouldn't cop his performances. We will though. Brace yourself for full season of C Scott. Just have to hope he improves
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Let’s be honest, Scott has been a bust so far this season. Make no mistake.
But don’t kid yourself into believing this is the reason for our poor season so far.
Ricky needs to address the right centre issue among a plethora of other issues within the team.
But don’t kid yourself into believing this is the reason for our poor season so far.
Ricky needs to address the right centre issue among a plethora of other issues within the team.
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It's killing me and our backline... when has he ever hit the ball at pace, executed a passing movement while on the run, chosen the right time to pass (after drawing instead of just shovelling on too early)?Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:19 pm He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball
Cannot break a tackle or create a try.
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Ricky seemed willing to cop the dropped balls as part of trying too hard.BJ wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 8:51 amThat grab on Lane concerned me more than plenty of other things people have been complaining about.Hong Kong Raider wrote:He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball
Cannot break a tackle or create a try.
@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.
But 5 missed tackles + 2 ineffective tackles including the Lane sham will surely attract Ricky's attention. He wants to be defence first oriented well do something about it.
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Cause for concern? The proof that Raiders recruit Curtis Scott’s ‘horror’ form is hurting his side
Curtis Scott was again under the microscope as Canberra slumped to back to back defeats, with league great Greg Alexander left shocked by the off-season recruit’s dismal form.
Scott, 22, was signed from the Melbourne Storm to replace Raiders fan favourite Joey Leilua and was supposed to be a consistent, reliable performer. But so far things haven’t gone to plan.
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 951c275655
This summarises his failings. What I'm concerned about is expert analysts like Cronk are pointing out the right edge being a problem, but Ricky saying there's no cause for concern - again stubbornly denying there's an issue much like 2017 until it was too late. It's unfair for Scott anyway if he continues to play and gets bathed every time. Remember he spent a large amount of time in reserve grade last year as well and Melbourne's centres aren't that flash.
Curtis Scott was again under the microscope as Canberra slumped to back to back defeats, with league great Greg Alexander left shocked by the off-season recruit’s dismal form.
Scott, 22, was signed from the Melbourne Storm to replace Raiders fan favourite Joey Leilua and was supposed to be a consistent, reliable performer. But so far things haven’t gone to plan.
Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 951c275655
This summarises his failings. What I'm concerned about is expert analysts like Cronk are pointing out the right edge being a problem, but Ricky saying there's no cause for concern - again stubbornly denying there's an issue much like 2017 until it was too late. It's unfair for Scott anyway if he continues to play and gets bathed every time. Remember he spent a large amount of time in reserve grade last year as well and Melbourne's centres aren't that flash.
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This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre
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The 'wise folks on here' have absolutely no influence on how the club operates, who they recruit and how they play on a week to week basis.rayden83 wrote:Our best backline is
Cotric - Croker - Leilua - Rapana
But some wise folks on here and in the Raiders boardroom determined that Scott was better than BJ, and managed to make themselves look foolish and destroyed our season prospects.
Do people really hold this view? If you go back to the BJ thread the majority of posters were actually disappointed with the decision and how it played out.
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I said this in another thread. BJ vs Scott is a false dichotomy. There is a whole lot of other players out there that could be recruited to play centre at the Raiders. Just because Scott is the wrong answer (or at least appears that way to my novice eyes), does not mean that holding onto BJ was the right idea.
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Fire up!rayden83 wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:06 pm How bad is Scott? He looks like a park footballer out there. His defense is meh and offers NOTHING in attack. NOTHING.
NOTHING!
Is it because he’s good looking? Is it because he’s an ex Melbourne player and apparently all Melbourne players are good at football? Is he still suffering the affects of being tasered?
Please explain.
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Agreed. When you think about the options at the time, we could have approached Cronulla to release Josh Morris. Moses Suli had not resigned for Manly (and he is a like for like replacement the closest you can get). Paul Momirovski could have been an option. According to wiki, Scott signed a contract to join Canberra until the end of the 2023 season. Scott was released by Melbourne despite having two years remaining on his contract (Bellamy is smart) - so we may have to put up with this nonsense for another 3 years unless he is found guilty of the January allegations. We could go with Wigan's Oliver Gildartgangrenous wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 12:49 pm I said this in another thread. BJ vs Scott is a false dichotomy. There is a whole lot of other players out there that could be recruited to play centre at the Raiders. Just because Scott is the wrong answer (or at least appears that way to my novice eyes), does not mean that holding onto BJ was the right idea.
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I was keen on Morris at the time and got absolutely slammed on that. He would have fit perfectly, nothing special but would have been solid and reliable which is what you need to mount a premiership challenge
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Maybe if we release Bateman from the last year of his contract for a return to Wigan, they can take Scott to sweeten the deal??
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I think the '50% of try causes' is my favourite stat, but there are plenty of others to choose from: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 951c275655
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Just so he can shove it in our facesLastRaider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 11:58 am This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre
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You got it! He is happy to kill a season on that basisFinchy wrote:Just so he can shove it in our facesLastRaider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 11:58 am This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre