Curtis Scott and our best backline

yeh raiders · Post by **yeh raiders** » June 24, 2020, 7:51 pm

sprintman wrote: ↑June 23, 2020, 9:01 pm Bellamy got us a beauty with Scott. He’s probably still laughing...

His centre stocks are not much better.

Neeeegz · Post by **Neeeegz** » June 24, 2020, 9:43 pm

I'd take brenko over Scott based on form currently

julian87 · Post by **julian87** » June 25, 2020, 6:26 am

yeh raiders wrote: ↑June 24, 2020, 7:51 pm
sprintman wrote: ↑June 23, 2020, 9:01 pm Bellamy got us a beauty with Scott. He’s probably still laughing...
His centre stocks are not much better.

That’s the thing though. You could just about guarantee that Lee, Seve and Olam are all on minimum wage. If there was ever a system that would turn around Brenko’s career it’s Melbourne. That team has made mediocre centres and second rowers look like brilliant attacking players for years.

yeh raiders · Post by **yeh raiders** » June 25, 2020, 7:10 am

julian87 wrote: ↑June 25, 2020, 6:26 am
yeh raiders wrote: ↑June 24, 2020, 7:51 pm
sprintman wrote: ↑June 23, 2020, 9:01 pm Bellamy got us a beauty with Scott. He’s probably still laughing...
His centre stocks are not much better.
That’s the thing though. You could just about guarantee that Lee, Seve and Olam are all on minimum wage. If there was ever a system that would turn around Brenko’s career it’s Melbourne. That team has made mediocre centres and second rowers look like brilliant attacking players for years.

Yeah fair point.

Though I think it’s a stretch to say any of their mediocre centres have ever looked like brilliant attacking players. Cheyse Blair springs to mind. He was hopelessly outplayed when it came to the business end of the season.

Olam, Seve and Lee are yet to do anything brilliant. While the #1 and #7 positions are what have cost Melbourne their strongest possible start to the season, their centres are obvious weaknesses and deserve a lot of traffic thrown their way.

gerg · Post by **gerg** » June 25, 2020, 7:35 am

Centres don't win games anymore. I remember when they were one of the most important positions on the field. Now they're just a second pair of second rower. Generally speaking of course.

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Roger Kenworthy · Post by **Roger Kenworthy** » June 27, 2020, 9:47 pm

Scott had his best game in terms of errors and try causes. He was still a 2/10.

Honestly he's worse than Brett Kelly. At least Kelly had some aggression.

Raider47 · Post by **Raider47** » June 27, 2020, 9:53 pm

If we lose Bateman and/or Cotric, plus Leilua to sign Scott... **** me this club.

Begbie · Post by **Begbie** » June 27, 2020, 9:55 pm

Can we sell him to Wigan?

Hong Kong Raider · Post by **Hong Kong Raider** » June 27, 2020, 10:02 pm

Scott is slow and cannot make even one break. But Ricky will persist.

To be fair, Rapana was @#$% - cannot catch a cold and old and slow

rayden83 · Post by **rayden83** » June 27, 2020, 10:03 pm

Our best backline is

Cotric - Croker - Leilua - Rapana

But some wise folks on here and in the Raiders boardroom determined that Scott was better than BJ, and managed to make themselves look foolish and destroyed our season prospects.

Wiki Special · Post by **Wiki Special** » June 27, 2020, 10:04 pm

I've seen enough now. Cotric to right centre, Simonnson to left wing.

rayden83 · Post by **rayden83** » June 27, 2020, 10:06 pm

How bad is Scott? He looks like a park footballer out there. His defense is meh and offers NOTHING in attack. NOTHING.

NOTHING!

Is it because he’s good looking? Is it because he’s an ex Melbourne player and apparently all Melbourne players are good at football? Is he still suffering the affects of being tasered?

Please explain.

Lucky · Post by **Lucky** » June 27, 2020, 10:09 pm

Hes clearly not up to first grand standard

Hong Kong Raider · Post by **Hong Kong Raider** » June 27, 2020, 10:19 pm

He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball

Cannot break a tackle or create a try.

@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.

Brew · Post by **Brew** » June 27, 2020, 10:34 pm

Honestly Oldfield is streets ahead of Scott.
Scott should be the squad filler

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GreenMachine · Post by **GreenMachine** » June 27, 2020, 10:36 pm

I hope we kept the packaging.

BJ · Post by BJ » June 28, 2020, 8:51 am

Hong Kong Raider wrote:He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball

Cannot break a tackle or create a try.

@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.

That grab on Lane concerned me more than plenty of other things people have been complaining about.

Northern Raider · Post by **Northern Raider** » June 28, 2020, 9:29 am

Brew wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:34 pm Honestly Oldfield is streets ahead of Scott.
Scott should be the squad filler

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My thoughts too. Oldy has the odd drop ball and bad defensive error but we know he's fast, dangerous in attack and can find the tryline. With Scott I'm only seeing those bad parts without the silver lining.

I was initially patient because Scott was finding his feet in a new team. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any upside with him.

Roger Kenworthy · Post by **Roger Kenworthy** » June 28, 2020, 9:43 am

Northern Raider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 9:29 am
Brew wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:34 pm Honestly Oldfield is streets ahead of Scott.
Scott should be the squad filler

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My thoughts too. Oldy has the odd drop ball and bad defensive error but we know he's fast, dangerous in attack and can find the tryline. With Scott I'm only seeing those bad parts without the silver lining.

I was initially patient because Scott was finding his feet in a new team. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any upside with him.

That's the concern right. As Botman mentioned he didn't have an especially error prone match yesterday, and yet he still exerted precisely zero positives in contributions to our performance. If only he was as tough and rugged as his tatts are.

mick63 · Post by **mick63** » June 28, 2020, 9:43 am

He is a bust.

Canberra Milk · Post by **Canberra Milk** » June 28, 2020, 9:50 am

A high performing team wouldn't cop his performances. We will though. Brace yourself for full season of C Scott. Just have to hope he improves

GreenMachine · Post by **GreenMachine** » June 28, 2020, 9:56 am

Let’s be honest, Scott has been a bust so far this season. Make no mistake.

But don’t kid yourself into believing this is the reason for our poor season so far.

Ricky needs to address the right centre issue among a plethora of other issues within the team.

BadnMean · Post by **BadnMean** » June 28, 2020, 11:21 am

Hong Kong Raider wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:19 pm He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball

Cannot break a tackle or create a try.

It's killing me and our backline... when has he ever hit the ball at pace, executed a passing movement while on the run, chosen the right time to pass (after drawing instead of just shovelling on too early)?

BadnMean · Post by **BadnMean** » June 28, 2020, 11:26 am

BJ wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 8:51 am
Hong Kong Raider wrote:He just stands flat not knowing what to do when he gets the ball

Cannot break a tackle or create a try.

@#$% player. Ricky must like tatoos though. But he ain't tough though although tries to portray that - watch his girly grab on Lane close to full time.
That grab on Lane concerned me more than plenty of other things people have been complaining about.

Ricky seemed willing to cop the dropped balls as part of trying too hard.

But 5 missed tackles + 2 ineffective tackles including the Lane sham will surely attract Ricky's attention. He wants to be defence first oriented well do something about it.

Hong Kong Raider · Post by **Hong Kong Raider** » June 28, 2020, 11:40 am

Cause for concern? The proof that Raiders recruit Curtis Scott’s ‘horror’ form is hurting his side

Curtis Scott was again under the microscope as Canberra slumped to back to back defeats, with league great Greg Alexander left shocked by the off-season recruit’s dismal form.

Scott, 22, was signed from the Melbourne Storm to replace Raiders fan favourite Joey Leilua and was supposed to be a consistent, reliable performer. But so far things haven’t gone to plan.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 951c275655

This summarises his failings. What I'm concerned about is expert analysts like Cronk are pointing out the right edge being a problem, but Ricky saying there's no cause for concern - again stubbornly denying there's an issue much like 2017 until it was too late. It's unfair for Scott anyway if he continues to play and gets bathed every time. Remember he spent a large amount of time in reserve grade last year as well and Melbourne's centres aren't that flash.

LastRaider · Post by **LastRaider** » June 28, 2020, 11:58 am

This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre

gerg · Post by **gerg** » June 28, 2020, 12:31 pm

rayden83 wrote:Our best backline is

Cotric - Croker - Leilua - Rapana

But some wise folks on here and in the Raiders boardroom determined that Scott was better than BJ, and managed to make themselves look foolish and destroyed our season prospects.

The 'wise folks on here' have absolutely no influence on how the club operates, who they recruit and how they play on a week to week basis.

Do people really hold this view? If you go back to the BJ thread the majority of posters were actually disappointed with the decision and how it played out.

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gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » June 28, 2020, 12:49 pm

I said this in another thread. BJ vs Scott is a false dichotomy. There is a whole lot of other players out there that could be recruited to play centre at the Raiders. Just because Scott is the wrong answer (or at least appears that way to my novice eyes), does not mean that holding onto BJ was the right idea.

Begbie · Post by **Begbie** » June 28, 2020, 12:54 pm

rayden83 wrote: ↑June 27, 2020, 10:06 pm How bad is Scott? He looks like a park footballer out there. His defense is meh and offers NOTHING in attack. NOTHING.

NOTHING!

Is it because he’s good looking? Is it because he’s an ex Melbourne player and apparently all Melbourne players are good at football? Is he still suffering the affects of being tasered?

Please explain.

Fire up!

Hong Kong Raider · Post by **Hong Kong Raider** » June 28, 2020, 1:01 pm

gangrenous wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 12:49 pm I said this in another thread. BJ vs Scott is a false dichotomy. There is a whole lot of other players out there that could be recruited to play centre at the Raiders. Just because Scott is the wrong answer (or at least appears that way to my novice eyes), does not mean that holding onto BJ was the right idea.

Agreed. When you think about the options at the time, we could have approached Cronulla to release Josh Morris. Moses Suli had not resigned for Manly (and he is a like for like replacement the closest you can get). Paul Momirovski could have been an option. According to wiki, Scott signed a contract to join Canberra until the end of the 2023 season. Scott was released by Melbourne despite having two years remaining on his contract (Bellamy is smart) - so we may have to put up with this nonsense for another 3 years unless he is found guilty of the January allegations. We could go with Wigan's Oliver Gildart

LastRaider · Post by **LastRaider** » June 28, 2020, 1:14 pm

I was keen on Morris at the time and got absolutely slammed on that. He would have fit perfectly, nothing special but would have been solid and reliable which is what you need to mount a premiership challenge

Coastalraider · Post by **Coastalraider** » June 28, 2020, 1:19 pm

Maybe if we release Bateman from the last year of his contract for a return to Wigan, they can take Scott to sweeten the deal??

Post by **T_R** » June 28, 2020, 1:48 pm

I think the '50% of try causes' is my favourite stat, but there are plenty of others to choose from: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 951c275655

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Finchy · Post by **Finchy** » June 28, 2020, 1:59 pm

LastRaider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 11:58 am This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre

Just so he can shove it in our faces

LastRaider · Post by **LastRaider** » June 28, 2020, 3:19 pm

Finchy wrote:
LastRaider wrote: ↑June 28, 2020, 11:58 am This article will drive Stuart more to retain Scott at centre
Just so he can shove it in our faces

You got it! He is happy to kill a season on that basis