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Wiki Special wrote: ↑June 22, 2020, 12:42 pm

Brew wrote: ↑June 21, 2020, 7:29 pm After today’s performance anyone who thinks we don’t need Bateman is kidding themselves.
I don’t see anyone ripping into the boys like he would after an error


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100% agree. I said something about how much value he would have provided in the Game Day thread. I would find a way to pay him if he comitted to staying in Australia.

100%, we are absolutely missing him. He is an xfactor to our team. Without him, we have no spark down that edge.

I can't see him staying, sadly.

I'm still pissed off that he decided to have surgery just weeks out from the start of the season despite it being an ongoing issue that could have been fixed months prior at the end of the season or at the end of the England camp. Waiting until as late as we did was absolutely madness. Then it burnt us again with the 2nd surgery. If he just had the surgery at the right time he would of been 100% fit for round 1 and probably could of been fit for the start of the season, even if he had to have two surgeries.

There's next to no chance he's staying next season. He's already broken one contract with Wigan, so there is history there. It's impossible to tell where his head is at with regards to staying in Australia more broadly.

I'm a bit pissed off with the surgery issue too. Not sure what went on there, but I hope he's enjoyed his 10 month offseason. He'll probably be the highest paid player per game this year.

You could see this coming when the contract issue was raised by him (and it was raised by him) in the lead up to the grand final. I'm a bit over it.

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑June 23, 2020, 3:51 pm There's next to no chance he's staying next season. He's already broken one contract with Wigan, so there is history there. It's impossible to tell where his head is at with regards to staying in Australia more broadly.

I'm a bit pissed off with the surgery issue too. Not sure what went on there, but I hope he's enjoyed his 10 month offseason. He'll probably be the highest paid player per game this year.

You could see this coming when the contract issue was raised by him (and it was raised by him) in the lead up to the grand final. I'm a bit over it.

Correct.

Yep, goneski.
Grubby act and that's why our team is not mentally right for games, some weird behind the scenes stuff must be happening there...haven't seen him or Sam Williams in any of the squad photos for a long time...

Neeeegz wrote: ↑June 23, 2020, 9:41 pm Yep, goneski.
Grubby act and that's why our team is not mentally right for games, some weird behind the scenes stuff must be happening there...haven't seen him or Sam Williams in any of the squad photos for a long time...

He is in Rehab and i believe they are not with the playing group due to Covid. Not saying he isn't goneski but that's why no jonneh in pics.
Swilly is a very interesting one. I'm sure he is training in the squad and has been in squad lockdown as per his socials but haven't seen him in any pics and has fallen back in pecking order by looks of it.

I saw Sammy Williams on Brett Whites Instagram story the other day at Training


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DT reporting Bateman has told the club he is heading back to the UK next year

Misread it , not necessarily to the UK , but he is leaving us

I hope he goes back to the UK if he leaves us. What a circus.


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Batemen tells Raiders he won't be at the club in 2021

English Test star John Bateman has told Canberra he will be on the move in 2021 as he weighs up whether to move to Canterbury or back home to his family and former club Wigan.

Bateman has a three-year offer on the table from the Bulldogs and a four-year deal from his old Super League outfit, with the contracts both understood to be worth around $2 million.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/06/30/bat ... xIsF1zAL5k

Canberra Raiders club statement

Canberra Raiders forward John Bateman will depart the club at the end of the 2020 season, after he was released from the final year of his contract.

Canberra Raiders CEO Don Furner said Bateman had decided to leave the Raiders after being given permission to seek other opportunities.

“The club made the difficult decision to allow John to pursue other long-term options and as a result, 2020 will be his final season with the Raiders,” Furner said. “We’re looking forward to John returning from his shoulder injury soon and finishing his time by helping us make the semi finals again. John was fantastic in 2019, featuring in our first Grand Final appearance since 1994 and winning the Dally M for second rower of the year.”

Bateman thanked the Raiders for the chance to come and play in the NRL and would do everything he can to finish his time with the club in the best way possible.

“The Raiders gave me an opportunity to come to Australia and play in the NRL and I’ve loved every moment playing for the club,” he said. “I’m doing everything I can to make sure I get back on the field as soon as possible and finish my last season with the Raiders on a high.”

If the Dogs and Wigan are offering the same cash, surely he goes back to be with his daughter.

2020 man... the hits just keep rolling


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Kevin Proctor.

Good riddance.

Integrity obviously isn't big in his agenda

Return the club the transfer money, pay back your 2020 salary and leave now. Raiders should not be supporting any rehab and he should consider his career here over.

Give me Whitehead any day of the week.

A Whitehead, Horsburgh, Tapine back row can get the job done. Throw in Young and Havili, it's not so bad.

What a long and successful career at the club Why bother packing up your whole life to come over for one season.. seriously.

Well **** off then ****. Does he have to pay back the transfer fee we had to pay to get him here originally?

Was a key member of the squad that let me experience GF week for the first time, was to young in 94. All the best in the future john.

I assume he expects to be paid for this year too even though he is unlikely to touch the field... Gotta love how players want it both ways... All reward, no risk on them...

89_90_94_?? wrote: ↑June 30, 2020, 12:43 pm Was a key member of the squad that let me experience GF week for the first time, was to young in 94. All the best in the future john.

Cheers to that.

disappointing but at least we can move forward with recruitment

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Goid riddance - apparently the deal with Canterbury is 3 years, WIgan is 4 for around 2 million. Considering what a money hungry ****** he has shown himself to be it'd be the Dogs.
I don't want him in our squad for 2020 and yeah give is $150,000 back of the transfer fee you gutless wonder.

Wow, that Moses ban is super effective.

I guess that means we have about 600k to spend next year. I reckon we should make enquiries about TPJ, or clear the decks and make an audacious bid for Fifita.

GMGT wrote: ↑June 30, 2020, 12:41 pm What a long and successful career at the club Why bother packing up your whole life to come over for one season.. seriously.

Half the world does 12 month working holidays. His just paid better.

Man I'm in the wrong half of the world.

I don't understand what's happened here to be honest.

He came here on a 3yr deal it's it's turned sour.

How did this happen ? And why was it allowed to happen ?

I'm angry..angry because when he sat down with the club over 12 months ago he agreed to terms. I don't care about dotting the Is and crossing the Ts..

Both parties presumably shook hands..

Has Bateman screwed us or has the club failed to give him the pay rise they both negotiated ?

He might want to get the deal done quickly, if we lost another 3 games I don't know if the club will still be so positive about a release.

*edit* just saw the official release from the club confirming it

My understanding:
He came on a 3 year deal with a proviso that he could re-negotiate it every year. That was in the contract.
We offered him an upgrade at the end of last year and he turned it down. Then he switched managers and came back for the upgrade and we had moved on by then ie the money was elsewhere, or planned to be elsewhere, or then upgrade wasn't quite up to snuff.
Begin the circus of Moses trying to get his client more money.

Is it just me or will he end up with less in both of these proposed options?

It this more than money?

Don't we get **** for the length of his contract though too? Are we going to paying for, at least in part, another club getting his services? I will never comprehend why this BS us allowed in the NRL. Contracts mean something or they don't, none if his "but I don't feel like it anymore" Bull. Why are players allowed to throw out a contract like it has no value but clubs are required to actually respect them?

zim wrote: ↑June 30, 2020, 12:52 pm My understanding:
He came on a 3 year deal with a proviso that he could re-negotiate it every year. That was in the contract.
We offered him an upgrade at the end of last year and he turned it down. Then he switched managers and came back for the upgrade and we had moved on by then ie the money was elsewhere, or planned to be elsewhere, or then upgrade wasn't quite up to snuff.
Begin the circus of Moses trying to get his client more money.

Yep..

That's how I thought it had played out.
Thanks John..off to Belmore where you're 100km closer to home.