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- who gives a rats where we play. We are playing.

- who gives a rats if we aren’t on channel 9. They stink. Let Don worry about that.

- footy is back. That’s all I care about.
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VIDEO: Five key match-ups of the Raiders' revised 2020 draw. NRL.com takes a look at some of the key match-ups for the Canberra Raiders in the 2020 NRL season: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/05/21/fiv ... 2020-draw/
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I like the draw, an "easy" run home. While the three week period against storm, roosters and souths will undoubtedly be very tough, It also excites me. Ricky will have the boys primed and ready and this period will really test and show where we are at as a team. Three block busters in a row against the other 3 best teams in comp will be huge.

On another note, Brandy on fox league live the other night was trying to say that playing at Campbell town would benefit the raiders :shock: :lol: Everyone else basically shot him down and questioned how he could see that it benefits the raiders in any way. Classic Brandy :roll:
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Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm I'm yet to hear a valid reason why they can't play out of Bruce though. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just honestly baffled why they can't when the ACT Government have given it the go ahead

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Just a guess, but i think the NRL wants to try and bubble the competition as much as they can. And whilst there is no reason we cant play out of bruce, the same is true for Penrith and their park, and newcastle, and the dragons and the Sharks and on and on... So at some point if you want to bubble the competition to some extent, then you've got to start knocking out stadiums, and those that would go first would be ones like Penrith, Newcastle and unfortunately Canberra where there is a reasonably convenient alternate stadium that is also accessible to multiple other clubs.

Now i dont know if it's the right call to want to bubble the competition, i dont know enough about this (you may given your profession) to know if limiting the clubs to 4-5 stadiums and bubbling it in this way is actually helpful in terms of trace contact control, spread etc?... does it make a difference? I dont know, but its clear to me that the NRL want to bubble the competition as much as feasible.
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We may have got stuff all Ch 9 matches, but I see Nick Politis has the **** with the draw so that makes me happy.
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Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm I'm yet to hear a valid reason why they can't play out of Bruce though. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just honestly baffled why they can't when the ACT Government have given it the go ahead

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It is not that we can’t for health reasons. It is the NRL are trying to reduce the number of venues.

Townsville and Melbourne are included because otherwise those teams need to fly for home games. That in itself would cause a problem because I don’t know if there are enough planes. In Round 2 the plane we flew to Gold Coast also went to Melbourne and then Sydney ferrying the Storm before coming back to the Gold Coast to pick up the Raiders. It then went back to Sydney to fly the storm home.

Not sure if the resumption is based on the chartering of one plane.
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If I was a Raiders player, I am not sure I would be so disappointed about playing at Campbelltown. Think about it, these guys are basically in house arrest outside of training. They go to training, then are required to come home. They are not allowed to go anywhere than the shops and even that is discouraged, they can't have visitors in their home. No going to cafes before or after training.

I am sure the return bus trips from Sydney will not a be dry argument. They will have a few beers and crank up the music and probably have the best social time they can have. For those venues where the players all drive their private vehicles to the game, presumably, win, lose or draw they just jump in the car back home to only socialise with those they live with.

I just hope now that we have gone 16 days in Canberra with no cases, and many other states are having very low rates, that things will start to get closer to normal and in a couple of months the only bubbles we will be talking about will be the celebratory drinks after we win the GF with all the Raiders fans there to see it.
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I was gobsmacked that we got more games on FTA than the Titans! 'cause you know Queensland being SOOOO important. Channel 9 can go $^#-.
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Bay53 wrote: May 21, 2020, 3:37 pm I just hope now that we have gone 16 days in Canberra with no cases, and many other states are having very low rates, that things will start to get closer to normal and in a couple of months the only bubbles we will be talking about will be the celebratory drinks after we win the GF with all the Raiders fans there to see it.
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Chicka Chicka Chicka wrote: May 21, 2020, 3:14 pm We may have got stuff all Ch 9 matches, but I see Nick Politis has the **** with the draw so that makes me happy.
Except that for the Grand Final replay, the Raiders get a 5 day turn around after playing the Storm while the Chooks get a full 7 days. Politis will be happy with that as will their coach.
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Broadcasters rule again: Why the Canberra Raiders were snubbed by Channel Nine

Come on Canberra Raiders fans, admit it. You weren't surprised when you saw the NRL draw on Thursday. You weren't even mad about the same old broadcast schedule story. You were just disappointed, again. Because television money rules the roost, again.

FREE TO AIR EXPOSURE
Broncos: 15
Eels: 13
Rabbitohs, Storm: 12
Roosters: 11
Knights: 9
Panthers, Cowboys: 8
Dragons: 8
Sea Eagles, Tigers: 6
Bulldogs: 5
Raiders, Sharks: 3
Warriors: 1
Titans: 1

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Ricky Stuart has said today that the club is working on having accommodation for the team at Campbelltown for home games. Hopefully, that will help the club deal with the travel burden. Worryingly, Stuart said that he's not confident that the NRL will allow the Raiders to play their home games in Canberra after Round 9.

Read more: viewtopic.php?p=1729348#p1729348

Stuart said today he's also disappointed for fans and sponsors about the the FTA TV coverage.
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greeneyed wrote:Broadcasters rule again: Why the Canberra Raiders were snubbed by Channel Nine

Come on Canberra Raiders fans, admit it. You weren't surprised when you saw the NRL draw on Thursday. You weren't even mad about the same old broadcast schedule story. You were just disappointed, again. Because television money rules the roost, again.

FREE TO AIR EXPOSURE
Broncos: 15
Eels: 13
Rabbitohs, Storm: 12
Roosters: 11
Knights: 9
Panthers, Cowboys: 8
Dragons: 8
Sea Eagles, Tigers: 6
Bulldogs: 5
Raiders, Sharks: 3
Warriors: 1
Titans: 1

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
Well that's pretty poor.

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Bay53 wrote:If I was a Raiders player, I am not sure I would be so disappointed about playing at Campbelltown. Think about it, these guys are basically in house arrest outside of training. They go to training, then are required to come home. They are not allowed to go anywhere than the shops and even that is discouraged, they can't have visitors in their home. No going to cafes before or after training.

I am sure the return bus trips from Sydney will not a be dry argument. They will have a few beers and crank up the music and probably have the best social time they can have. For those venues where the players all drive their private vehicles to the game, presumably, win, lose or draw they just jump in the car back home to only socialise with those they live with.

I just hope now that we have gone 16 days in Canberra with no cases, and many other states are having very low rates, that things will start to get closer to normal and in a couple of months the only bubbles we will be talking about will be the celebratory drinks after we win the GF with all the Raiders fans there to see it.
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Dr Zaius wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Broadcasters rule again: Why the Canberra Raiders were snubbed by Channel Nine

Come on Canberra Raiders fans, admit it. You weren't surprised when you saw the NRL draw on Thursday. You weren't even mad about the same old broadcast schedule story. You were just disappointed, again. Because television money rules the roost, again.

FREE TO AIR EXPOSURE
Broncos: 15
Eels: 13
Rabbitohs, Storm: 12
Roosters: 11
Knights: 9
Panthers, Cowboys: 8
Dragons: 8
Sea Eagles, Tigers: 6
Bulldogs: 5
Raiders, Sharks: 3
Warriors: 1
Titans: 1

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
Well that's pretty poor.

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Geez, I don't know how anybody - broadcasters and even Bulldogs fans - can have sat through their 2 first games this year and say we need them on FTA 5 more times this year.

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Fingers crossed the Broncos find a way to tank their season and Channel 9 ratings. Two birds, one stone c’mon.
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bonehead wrote: May 21, 2020, 2:19 pm We can all stay at simo's house and watch through the fence

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House will be full unfortunately. Everyone that nickman ran out of the gh will be here
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Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart slams Channel 9 following shocking Green Machine snub

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A furious Ricky Stuart went to war with Channel Nine on Thursday on his team’s FTA TV cover.

But in a small win for the Raiders, the NRL has now agreed to fly them on a chartered flight direct to Bankstown Airport for so-called “home” games at Campbelltown. The NRL refused to allow the Raiders to stay overnight in accommodation at Campbelltown.

Read more: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... 6cf5c4eb24

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Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart doubts the Green Machine will be allowed to play any games at Canberra Stadium this year... and "expresses disappointment" about appearing on FTA TV just three times. WIN News Canberra reports: http://ow.ly/8vpr50zMlee

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gangrenous wrote:Fingers crossed the Broncos find a way to tank their season and Channel 9 ratings. Two birds, one stone c’mon.
It will warm the cockles

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Why is Fox league saying we will play the broncos Sea eagles tigers bulldogs and Panthers twice?
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Azza wrote:Why is Fox league saying we will play the broncos Sea eagles tigers bulldogs and Panthers twice?
The GH has politely pointed out to them on Twitter that is incorrect, but they haven't corrected it.


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Ricky didn’t miss... I also like how he has said he has an obligation to club and fans to stand up for what is right and fair... and in this case the Raiders have not been treated fairly.


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greeneyed wrote: May 21, 2020, 7:22 pm
Azza wrote:Why is Fox league saying we will play the broncos Sea eagles tigers bulldogs and Panthers twice?
The GH has politely pointed out to them on Twitter that is incorrect, but they ha ent corrected it.


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I hope this BS gives us a siege mentality. And, when we are slaying I hope that we give a big FU to channel nine. Like when they send the lackies for those half time walk off interviews or full time interviews, our boys say something about nine and their BS treatment so it goes live to air.
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Botman wrote: May 21, 2020, 3:11 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm I'm yet to hear a valid reason why they can't play out of Bruce though. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just honestly baffled why they can't when the ACT Government have given it the go ahead

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Just a guess, but i think the NRL wants to try and bubble the competition as much as they can. And whilst there is no reason we cant play out of bruce, the same is true for Penrith and their park, and newcastle, and the dragons and the Sharks and on and on... So at some point if you want to bubble the competition to some extent, then you've got to start knocking out stadiums, and those that would go first would be ones like Penrith, Newcastle and unfortunately Canberra where there is a reasonably convenient alternate stadium that is also accessible to multiple other clubs.

Now i dont know if it's the right call to want to bubble the competition, i dont know enough about this (you may given your profession) to know if limiting the clubs to 4-5 stadiums and bubbling it in this way is actually helpful in terms of trace contact control, spread etc?... does it make a difference? I dont know, but its clear to me that the NRL want to bubble the competition as much as feasible.
But the have not adopted a "bubble" strategy. They are allowing the players of all clubs to reside at home (with the exception of the Warriors), and then travel to a variety of grounds, three of them across the greater Sydney region... and a total of three others in Queensland and Victoria. Teams will be travelling here, there and everywhere now.

It seems that they are adopting a strategy of minimising the travel for most clubs... except the Raiders.

There might be cost and logistical considerations in setting up stadiums so that they meet the biosecurity protocols... by doing them at fewer, rather than more stadiums. But I believe that Canberra Stadium has not been approved as a venue, principally to save the broadcasters the cost of travelling and setting up equipment in Canberra.

The NRL has apparently now agreed to charter flights for the Raiders to Bankstown Airport for their "home" games, after refusing to allow the Raiders to stay at Campbelltown Stadium overnight, the night before. Given that we're led to believe they decided to use Campbelltown to "suit" the Raiders... I can only now conclude the whole thing a complete stuff up.

I would be interested in Dr Zaius' perspective on the biosecurity/medical aspects though... happy to be corrected!
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Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart bracing for 'one of the hardest' NRL seasons

Ricky Stuart is determined to see his club command more respect from rugby league broadcasters and success in "one of the hardest seasons ever for a Canberra Raiders team" looms as the perfect way to get it.

"It's going to be one of the hardest seasons ever for a Canberra Raiders team with the intense travel we have early in this season, but I really believe I've got the right group to embrace the difficulties that lay ahead," Stuart said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Parramatta expressed their delight on Thursday with the club's dream run of free-to-air games as premiership favourites Canberra continued to fume about their prime-time snub: https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/nrl/we ... 54v5n.html

What do the Raiders have to do to get on free-to-air television? https://the-riotact.com/what-do-the-rai ... ion/377807
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greeneyed wrote:
Botman wrote: May 21, 2020, 3:11 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm I'm yet to hear a valid reason why they can't play out of Bruce though. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just honestly baffled why they can't when the ACT Government have given it the go ahead

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Just a guess, but i think the NRL wants to try and bubble the competition as much as they can. And whilst there is no reason we cant play out of bruce, the same is true for Penrith and their park, and newcastle, and the dragons and the Sharks and on and on... So at some point if you want to bubble the competition to some extent, then you've got to start knocking out stadiums, and those that would go first would be ones like Penrith, Newcastle and unfortunately Canberra where there is a reasonably convenient alternate stadium that is also accessible to multiple other clubs.

Now i dont know if it's the right call to want to bubble the competition, i dont know enough about this (you may given your profession) to know if limiting the clubs to 4-5 stadiums and bubbling it in this way is actually helpful in terms of trace contact control, spread etc?... does it make a difference? I dont know, but its clear to me that the NRL want to bubble the competition as much as feasible.
But the have not adopted a "bubble" strategy. They are allowing the players of all clubs to reside at home (with the exception of the Warriors), and then travel to a variety of grounds, three of them across the greater Sydney region... and a total of three others in Queensland and Victoria. Teams will be travelling here, there and everywhere now.

It seems that they are adopting a strategy of minimising the travel for most clubs... except the Raiders.

There might be cost and logistical considerations in setting up stadiums so that they meet the biosecurity protocols... by doing them at fewer, rather than more stadiums. But I believe that Canberra Stadium has not been approved as a venue, principally to save the broadcasters the cost of travelling and setting up equipment in Canberra.

The NRL has apparently now agreed to charter flights for the Raiders to Bankstown Airport for their "home" games, after refusing to allow the Raiders to stay at Campbelltown Stadium overnight, the night before. Given that we're led to believe they decided to use Campbelltown to "suit" the Raiders... I can only now conclude the whole thing a complete stuff up.

I would be interested in Dr Zaius' perspective on the biosecurity/medical aspects though... happy to be corrected!
I'm no biosecurity expert.

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That's OK. GE is.
And it's quite clear now the NRL is out to get us
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Brew pointed out that they were also publicising the Grand Final rematch between the Roosters and Storm!
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Wow. We really have a pair of crappy broadcasters don't we
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Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 8:22 pm
greeneyed wrote:
Botman wrote: May 21, 2020, 3:11 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: May 21, 2020, 1:41 pm I'm yet to hear a valid reason why they can't play out of Bruce though. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just honestly baffled why they can't when the ACT Government have given it the go ahead

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Just a guess, but i think the NRL wants to try and bubble the competition as much as they can. And whilst there is no reason we cant play out of bruce, the same is true for Penrith and their park, and newcastle, and the dragons and the Sharks and on and on... So at some point if you want to bubble the competition to some extent, then you've got to start knocking out stadiums, and those that would go first would be ones like Penrith, Newcastle and unfortunately Canberra where there is a reasonably convenient alternate stadium that is also accessible to multiple other clubs.

Now i dont know if it's the right call to want to bubble the competition, i dont know enough about this (you may given your profession) to know if limiting the clubs to 4-5 stadiums and bubbling it in this way is actually helpful in terms of trace contact control, spread etc?... does it make a difference? I dont know, but its clear to me that the NRL want to bubble the competition as much as feasible.
But the have not adopted a "bubble" strategy. They are allowing the players of all clubs to reside at home (with the exception of the Warriors), and then travel to a variety of grounds, three of them across the greater Sydney region... and a total of three others in Queensland and Victoria. Teams will be travelling here, there and everywhere now.

It seems that they are adopting a strategy of minimising the travel for most clubs... except the Raiders.

There might be cost and logistical considerations in setting up stadiums so that they meet the biosecurity protocols... by doing them at fewer, rather than more stadiums. But I believe that Canberra Stadium has not been approved as a venue, principally to save the broadcasters the cost of travelling and setting up equipment in Canberra.

The NRL has apparently now agreed to charter flights for the Raiders to Bankstown Airport for their "home" games, after refusing to allow the Raiders to stay at Campbelltown Stadium overnight, the night before. Given that we're led to believe they decided to use Campbelltown to "suit" the Raiders... I can only now conclude the whole thing a complete stuff up.

I would be interested in Dr Zaius' perspective on the biosecurity/medical aspects though... happy to be corrected!
I'm no biosecurity expert.

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I don’t believe the decisions around grounds are purely for bio security reasons, but cost expenditure in a season where the NRL has reduced income.

The costs associated are the construction of temporary ‘green’ zones at stadiums to process arriving players, installation of tv and broadcast equipment, travel/accomodation of teams etc.

For instance, if there are only 3 stadiums in Sydney, they can feasibly construct a green zone, install cameras and store broadcast equipment at each location and leave it constructed full time. If they spread that allocation to 5 venues, they would need to deconstruct and reinstall over the course of a weekend, driving up costs.

Now to spread outside of the Sydney bubble, the costs associated with transportation of equipment and support staff to Canberra to install and manage all of these ancillary items was obviously balanced to be MORE expensive than shipping the team to Campbeltown each week. It’s a short flight or cheap bus trip. Balance that to Melbourne or Townsville, and the cost of shipping the teams around was likely MORE expensive than the installation of local assets in place.

I think it’s purely down to dollars.
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Botman wrote: May 21, 2020, 8:44 pm That's OK. GE is.
And it's quite clear now the NRL is out to get us
It's not a matter of being a biosecurity expert. It's just pointing out some inconsistencies in this arrangement. If it was all about biosecurity, we'd be doing something similar to what the AFL and A-League will be doing.
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Strength of schedule for all teams: New draw gives Sharks and Raiders a boost

There's no "easy" draw in the NRL but Cronulla may have come the closest with the revised fixture list for the 2020 Telstra Premiership season announced on Thursday.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/05/22/str ... s-a-boost/

Analysing every club’s NRL draw and using stats to rate them hardest to easiest: Raiders middle of the pack

The NRL has released its draw for the remainder of the 2020 season, which has been on hold for two months due to the coronavirus pandemic. While venues haven’t been assigned, we at least know who each club will play up until the regular season ends. With the help of Fox Sports Lab, we run the rule over every club’s draw from Round 3. The Fox Sports Lab “rating” is based on the ladder position each opponent finished the 2019 season.

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Given the ranking are based on the 2019 ladder, not sure how they are so different.
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