Ricky Stuart says he'll fight proposal to strip competition points from opening rounds
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Would be a bit of a hollow feeling winning a premiership based on a 13 week season, wouldn't it? The whole integrity of the comp has just been destroyed this season.
Can see opposition fans giving it hard to the team that does.
Can see opposition fans giving it hard to the team that does.
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And the winning fans giving it back 15 fold..
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You'd have thought that the 1997 premierships would have an asterisk next to them too, but they don't. The way the Sydney commentators go on about the Knights' win over Manly... let's just say they seem to have forgotten it was in half a competition.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
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A win is a win. If I was at the grand final this year, watching the Raiders win I wouldn't care if it was a 4 comp series or a 25 week comp. I'd be happy either way.
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I live in Newcastle, let me just say I’ve only made the ‘1.5 premierships’ joke once in a room full of Knights fans.greeneyed wrote: ↑April 7, 2020, 11:15 am You'd have thought that the 1997 premierships would have an asterisk next to them too, but they don't. The way the Sydney commentators go on about the Knights' win over Manly... let's just say they seem to have forgotten it was in half a competition.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
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They spoke about that on Fox league live last night.greeneyed wrote:You'd have thought that the 1997 premierships would have an asterisk next to them too, but they don't. The way the Sydney commentators go on about the Knights' win over Manly... let's just say they seem to have forgotten it was in half a competition.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
Gordy basically said you still have to prepare and play who's in front of you on the day to win the trophy.
But we're still in a full competition, just reduced to 16 rounds or whatever it ends up being. Still play every team etc
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I think you could realistically say 3 games every two weeks. Squads are 30 these days so there is no reason teams can't use their players sensibly.papabear wrote:then play them mid week and let the players back up playing 3 games in 6/7 days.Raider Azz wrote: ↑April 7, 2020, 10:24 amThey're not going to get rid of Origin, it makes them way too much money.julian87 wrote:You can’t have a 7 round season. **** Origin off for a year and make it te 2 games already plus another 10+ imo
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I think if you beat the Roosters and Storm in a final series to win it then it's as legitimate as any. That's really been the main requirement to winning a comp for over a decade.
No doubt opposition fans will not see it that way though.
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The sharks beat us / cows / storm.
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Seems to be a bit of confusion about what the options actually are. One outlined yesterday was seven games in each conference and that's the regular season over. We'd play the Warriors and Titans twice, and the other five teams in the conference once.-TW- wrote: ↑April 7, 2020, 11:35 amThey spoke about that on Fox league live last night.greeneyed wrote:You'd have thought that the 1997 premierships would have an asterisk next to them too, but they don't. The way the Sydney commentators go on about the Knights' win over Manly... let's just say they seem to have forgotten it was in half a competition.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
Gordy basically said you still have to prepare and play who's in front of you on the day to win the trophy.
But we're still in a full competition, just reduced to 16 rounds or whatever it ends up being. Still play every team etc
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born and bred novocastrian, I point out their 1 true premiership constantlyTimbo wrote:I live in Newcastle, let me just say I’ve only made the ‘1.5 premierships’ joke once in a room full of Knights fans.greeneyed wrote: ↑April 7, 2020, 11:15 am You'd have thought that the 1997 premierships would have an asterisk next to them too, but they don't. The way the Sydney commentators go on about the Knights' win over Manly... let's just say they seem to have forgotten it was in half a competition.
Whoever wins in 2020, if the season is not cancelled, will have overcome a lot of adversity to do so.
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Idea has been dropped and good riddance - it was a dumb one.
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I cant imagine it will be hollow for the club and fans that win it. Certainly i wont view it as hallow
Fans will get try and get their jokes off and the fan base of the winning team wont give the faintest ****. Nor should they
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Canberra Raiders relieved as ARLC Chair Peter V'landys intervenes and rules out plan to scrap competition points from opening rounds
The Canberra Raiders' equal-best start to a season in 15 years will stand after ARL commission chairman Peter V'Landys stepped into to scupper plans to erase two rounds from the history books.
"I spoke with Wayne Pearce this morning and we both agreed that it's not going to come under consideration," V'landys said. "The commission has not considered it and it won't be considering it."
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
NRL backflips on possible plan to strip competition points from completed rounds: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-confer ... d35b0cc030
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-20 ... d37d92bf12
The Canberra Raiders' equal-best start to a season in 15 years will stand after ARL commission chairman Peter V'Landys stepped into to scupper plans to erase two rounds from the history books.
"I spoke with Wayne Pearce this morning and we both agreed that it's not going to come under consideration," V'landys said. "The commission has not considered it and it won't be considering it."
Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
NRL backflips on possible plan to strip competition points from completed rounds: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-confer ... d35b0cc030
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-20 ... d37d92bf12
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Yeah, not sure it was really an idea to begin with. I reckon it was only a reporter putting the question to Pearce and because he didn't immediately rule it out they all ran with the story.
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A twitspiracy was they leaked it to the media to gage reaction
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Braith Anasta and Sam Burgess on Fox League Live telling us vehemently the competition points from the opening two rounds cannot count under a conference system. Telling us till their blue in the face. Wonder who theyve been talking to.
Meanwhile James Hooper tells us Trent Robinson and Wayne Bennett went to see V'Landys yesterday to outline their vision for a conference system...
Meanwhile James Hooper tells us Trent Robinson and Wayne Bennett went to see V'Landys yesterday to outline their vision for a conference system...
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I fully disagree with this concept. No team has been weakened, no team has been removed, nothing has made the competition weaker. The only thing it might be, is a little shorter. But that doesn't mean winning it would be easier. We would surely have to play Roosters and Storm at least once or twice to win the comp. If anything, the team who wins should be lauded, as being able to re-start after an unexpected stoppage and massively reduced training time and launch full speed into a season would be quite a feat.
No surprises that it was Trent Robinson who pitched it - how many games did the Roosters win in the first two rounds...? Oh right...none! Can't imagine why the Roosters' coach would want the points from the first two rounds stripped, eh?
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I can handle the conference system, I really hope it can be avoided. But if it had to be I really do think there needs to be a cross over somehow for the finals. The best 2 teams need to be able to make the final otherwise it has no resemblance to the regular comp.
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Ben Ikin was on Fox League Live too. He was suggesting that the opening round competition points should count if we’re playing for the premiership. But perhaps it won’t be possible to get a premiership competition back on the rails... and the key thing is to play games to get broadcast revenue... and things are so uncertain, all we might be able to do is some form of tournament.
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'97 ARL Grand Final is remembered for the quality of the game, not so much as being the "true" champions or any of that malarkey...
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It doesn't have to be great to be great.
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But Manly lost! The modern day equivalent was the Cowboys beating the Broncos. Neither game was a classic but great endings and the **** bags lost.
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What this Bull about the comp being legit for whoever wins it?
If we end up playing 15 rounds, all bar one away from home and we end up winning it, nobody is telling me the comp is not legit.
If we end up playing 15 rounds, all bar one away from home and we end up winning it, nobody is telling me the comp is not legit.
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It is a shame the club won’t be able to take advantage of higher crowd numbers off the back of their most successful season since ‘94Seiffert82 wrote:What this Bull about the comp being legit for whoever wins it?
If we end up playing 15 rounds, all bar one away from home and we end up winning it, nobody is telling me the comp is not legit.
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1997 grand not a good game just a good Finish?
I have that grand final in the top 3 to 5 grand finals I have seen and many agree it is up there.
It had it all.
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It had it all.
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Wouldn’t it be the fairest comp in years if everyone plays each other once, and then a final series followed?Botman wrote:I cant imagine it will be hollow for the club and fans that win it. Certainly i wont view it as hallow
Fans will get try and get their jokes off and the fan base of the winning team wont give the faintest ****. Nor should they
As opposed to playing an uneven draw where your run depends on channel 9 and foxsports?
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The decision to allow the initial 2 rounds results to stand is the correct one imo. A tick for V'landys.
There will be no rugby league played until the Federal (and NZ) Government relaxes the social distancing rules. Once that is relaxed it will make sense to test every player/trainer/coaching staff member/ref to zero base the Covid-19 free start date. I think we will see the initial re-start of the competition with no fans at stadiums. Why? To reduce the chance of a 'non-tested' fan who may have the virus coming into contact with a player/official who has tested clear.
While not 100% opposed to the conference idea from the point of view of isolating groups of players, I don't see what is wrong with continuing the competition for 2020 using the current draw. All of the players will have been tested so why not continue from whatever start date is allowed? The venues are simply told 'it's on again'. There is no 'perfect' outcome in such a disrupted season. I would look to play out the competition and stage the State of Origin two weeks after the grand final and played over 3 consecutive weeks with both teams given a squad of, say, 25 players to draw from over the 3 weeks of post season Origin footy.
There will be no rugby league played until the Federal (and NZ) Government relaxes the social distancing rules. Once that is relaxed it will make sense to test every player/trainer/coaching staff member/ref to zero base the Covid-19 free start date. I think we will see the initial re-start of the competition with no fans at stadiums. Why? To reduce the chance of a 'non-tested' fan who may have the virus coming into contact with a player/official who has tested clear.
While not 100% opposed to the conference idea from the point of view of isolating groups of players, I don't see what is wrong with continuing the competition for 2020 using the current draw. All of the players will have been tested so why not continue from whatever start date is allowed? The venues are simply told 'it's on again'. There is no 'perfect' outcome in such a disrupted season. I would look to play out the competition and stage the State of Origin two weeks after the grand final and played over 3 consecutive weeks with both teams given a squad of, say, 25 players to draw from over the 3 weeks of post season Origin footy.
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The issue is the tests are still in short supply and the plan seems to be to isolate every player and staff member in a room for 14 days with exercise equipment... before it can kick off. Now back to putting all teams in Sydney (Homebush is the main option it seems) which is the centre of the virus... I can’t see that flying with the players.
Players and staff to endure 14-day solitary confinement under bubble plan: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-pr ... 54hzn.html
NRL will ask players to enter a prison-like ‘bubble’. Cam Smith says that’s not on: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... fe489c6550
Players and staff to endure 14-day solitary confinement under bubble plan: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-pr ... 54hzn.html
NRL will ask players to enter a prison-like ‘bubble’. Cam Smith says that’s not on: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... fe489c6550
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Cant believe people were really pissed off by this. We would lose our wins over the titans and warriors. We would get to play them again. If it split into conferences we would be in a much easier pool. The only annoying thing out of it is that the roosters would lose two losses. But lets face it, theyre going to be there at the end of the season anyway
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I don’t think it’s about the wins or losses, but it’s about the integrity of the competition, honouring the original claims by the NRL about the start of the season and providing the players with some meaning to their original offseason.simo wrote:Cant believe people were really pissed off by this. We would lose our wins over the titans and warriors. We would get to play them again. If it split into conferences we would be in a much easier pool. The only annoying thing out of it is that the roosters would lose two losses. But lets face it, theyre going to be there at the end of the season anyway
Sports efforts and results have to mean something otherwise we may as well just watch ET Rugby League 1991 video game.
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The competition hasn't had an draw where every team plays the other the same number of times for 20 years.
On what basis do you ditch the first 2 games? This is only relevant if you have 2 conferences that have their own winner and the two top teams play in a superbowl style grand final. I just don't see why this will be necessary in 5-6 months time when the regular season games are over.
On what basis do you ditch the first 2 games? This is only relevant if you have 2 conferences that have their own winner and the two top teams play in a superbowl style grand final. I just don't see why this will be necessary in 5-6 months time when the regular season games are over.
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Penrith is the other site: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... b9892c4634greeneyed wrote: ↑April 8, 2020, 7:15 am The issue is the tests are still in short supply and the plan seems to be to isolate every player and staff member in a room for 14 days with exercise equipment... before it can kick off. Now back to putting all teams in Sydney (Homebush is the main option it seems) which is the centre of the virus... I can’t see that flying with the players.
Players and staff to endure 14-day solitary confinement under bubble plan: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-pr ... 54hzn.html
NRL will ask players to enter a prison-like ‘bubble’. Cam Smith says that’s not on: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... fe489c6550
Re: Ricky Stuart says he'll fight proposal to strip competition points from opening rounds
Tbh that makes more sense than a conference system
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