Cotric signs with Bulldogs on $2 million three year deal

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And hopefully he enjoyed singing that victory song last night. Won’t be doing much of that with the dogs.
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Andrew Webster reporting on 2KY that there was a rumour last night Cotric signed with the Dogs, both clubs and agent Ayoub categorically deny, expect announcement in the coming days.

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Can someone explain Ricky's aversion to playing Cotric in the centres? Moving Rapana there after Oldfield went off was baffling. Defensively we were a rabble at times on the right after that change.
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I reckon he is gonski
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Might be reading too much into it, but I think he is gone too. Smith mentioned on Fox that there was an announcement coming possibly as soon as tomorrow - you make the announcement before the game if he is staying. His body language post game with the guys and Stuart seemed to reflect it, too.

Would be pretty damn disappointing to lose a 21 year old International Raiders junior.
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Very frustrating if he leaves. He has such safe hands, great finisher, strong defensively, makes good hard runs early in the set. We will miss him for sure. He has a different kind of x-factor to BJ, but an x-factor we will miss nonetheless. And despite being rubbished by GMGT for suggesting it, I reckon the change of coach at the Dogs will be the clincher for him going there. I reckon if Pay stayed he wouldn't sign with them.
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I think it's a mistake for him to sign with the Dogs but it's his business. We made him a good offer and if he goes, so be it.
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Wiki Special wrote: July 17, 2020, 7:29 am Can someone explain Ricky's aversion to playing Cotric in the centres? Moving Rapana there after Oldfield went off was baffling. Defensively we were a rabble at times on the right after that change.
1. Stubbornness.
2. Poor judgement in relation to the particular player and position in question.

Giving that Fijian kid a run last night and then talking him up post-game as potentially being another Noa Nadruku is a tell-tale sign that Cotric is going. It's a diversion.

The reality is that losing local junior Cotric would be a dreadful outcome for the club. Absolutely woeful. Top shelf clubs don't lose home grown talents like him.
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I will be shattered to lose Cotric but would have accepted it if it meant we kept Bateman (the Bateman loss is a huge one). If we lose both it is diabolical.
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We've made a good competitive offer, if the Dogs want to pay overs and he wants to take it, so be it. Wish him all the best.
It sucks but that's footy, losing wingers isnt a huge concern for me
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Botman wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:09 am We've made a good competitive offer, if the Dogs want to pay overs and he wants to take it, so be it. Wish him all the best.
It sucks but that's footy, losing wingers isnt a huge concern for me
I'd be very disappointed to see Cotric as a local junior go, but as Raider_69 says - we've made a decent offer by all reports, and just like Shannon Boyd there's another club that appears to be prepared to offer overs. Bad of us, ultimately bad for the bulldogs but Cotric should most definitely jump on it.
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We have a fair old War chest if Cotric leaves
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Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
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T_R wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:21 am
Botman wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:09 am We've made a good competitive offer, if the Dogs want to pay overs and he wants to take it, so be it. Wish him all the best.
It sucks but that's footy, losing wingers isnt a huge concern for me
I'd be very disappointed to see Cotric as a local junior go, but as Raider_69 says - we've made a decent offer by all reports, and just like Shannon Boyd there's another club that appears to be prepared to offer overs. Bad of us, ultimately bad for the bulldogs but Cotric should most definitely jump on it.
Yep, when you look at contribution to the team the outside backs can only make so much difference. That is why they don't command the big $$. Cotric is one of the best in the game but there is smaller gap between what he delivers and somebody like Ikuvalu who is 4th on the Roosters depth chart and would be close to NRL minimum pay.
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BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.
Thats it in a nutshell
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that's the thing I guess, we've got room to develop guys like Semi, Timoko and HSS this year if necessary but I'll still be gutted if he goes for such a minimal difference in take home pay

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Raiders666 wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:31 am We have a fair old War chest if Cotric leaves
Without knowing the finer details it would appear so. About $1.2m allocated for Bateman and Cotric. Puts us in a position to compete for any decent quality players that may come on the market. Obviously we will need a winger and backrower to cover those guys.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:11 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:31 am We have a fair old War chest if Cotric leaves
Without knowing the finer details it would appear so. About $1.2m allocated for Bateman and Cotric. Puts us in a position to compete for any decent quality players that may come on the market. Obviously we will need a winger and backrower to cover those guys.
Wingers And centres should be developed from within. Only way to get value out of them and its quite simply the best place to get value in a squad.
I too would prefer he stays and hope he does But weve set a competitive offer and thats it
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BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
If he goes, I think it'll be the bright lights of Sydney that are the drawcard as much as anything.
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BadnMean wrote: July 16, 2020, 10:14 am
kona_dream wrote: July 16, 2020, 6:49 am All player contracts today come with a yearly renegotiate kick stones player option built in to them. Can’t say I am a massive fan of the 5 years but the $500k pa would seem reasonable.
We have to hope 500k is close enough vs an extra 20k pa in your pocket after taxes, manager and moving/living costs.

I think the 5 years offers great security- it's set your life up money at the promised duration and insurance against all the "what ifs" which can happen to a footballer+ the players option gives him the room to test the market after 3 if he has established himself as a superstar player, or the cap rises, or Raiders go backwards or whichever it is.

It's a pretty good deal.
I get why it is such a good deal for the player. It is exactly what I would push for as a player. No downside risk, with plenty of upside if things are going well. I am more concerned that it is the reverse situation for the club. Plenty of downside risk if the player is injured not playing well. The club is on the hook for 5 years with no upside because if the player is playing well and is being paid unders he just leaves.
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Nick has been sensational this season...Really hope he stays. You can tell how frustrated he gets when CNK refuses to pass to him
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The more I read about Cotric the more I’m hearing that he really wants to play centre. Is that right? Is sticky being stubborn and keeping him on the wing?
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Raiders666 wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:40 am Nick has been sensational this season...Really hope he stays. You can tell how frustrated he gets when CNK refuses to pass to him
Imagine how frustrated he would be at the end of that Bulldogs backline.
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Remember when Wighton was leaving because it was always his dream to play centre?
It's just what the media does. Speculate that a player is leaving because of
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Isn't in a position they've played before.
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BadnMean wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:32 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
If he goes, I think it'll be the bright lights of Sydney that are the drawcard as much as anything.
The bright lights of Belmore.
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I think he decided to move on quite some time ago. Just from stuff I read from a particular poster on the Dogs forum.
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It's like choosing between pissing your career down the drain or not pissing your career down the drain. How hard can it be. For the difference of 100k too, sure it's still a lot of money but for an nrl player it's not at the end of the day and there is no way I would be leaving the raiders to go to a bottom 4 team simply for an extra 100k. Career suicide.

Before you make your decision Mr Cotric, don't forget to pick up the phone and give Mr Shannon Boyd a call, ask him how it panned out for him.
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BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 amsurely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:53 am
BadnMean wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:32 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
If he goes, I think it'll be the bright lights of Sydney that are the drawcard as much as anything.
The bright lights of Belmore.
The bright lights of the dumpster fire which is Sydney.
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hrundi89 wrote: July 17, 2020, 11:00 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 amsurely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
sUrElY a MaNaGeR hAs ThE lOnG tErM iNtErEsTs Of A 21 yEaR oLd PlAyEr In MiNd.
Exactly 😂😂. You clearly don't know managers if you think they have his best interests in mind. They literally see dollar signs and that's all they care about.. the bigger the contract the more money for them.
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GMGT wrote: July 17, 2020, 11:00 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:53 am
BadnMean wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:32 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
If he goes, I think it'll be the bright lights of Sydney that are the drawcard as much as anything.
The bright lights of Belmore.
The bright lights of the dumpster fire which is Sydney.
Steady on, mate...
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hrundi89 wrote: July 17, 2020, 11:02 am
GMGT wrote: July 17, 2020, 11:00 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:53 am
BadnMean wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:32 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 am Don’t compete with clubs who offer overs for your non-spine players. We have to hold the line.

If Cotric has rocks in his head and thinks the Bulldogs will be good for his career, then good luck to him.

He will be leaving an awesome training facility, a stable coaching team and board, the opportunity for finals football and deserting his teammates and his home club.

I still think he’ll stay. He just can’t be that dumb and surely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
If he goes, I think it'll be the bright lights of Sydney that are the drawcard as much as anything.
The bright lights of Belmore.
The bright lights of the dumpster fire which is Sydney.
Steady on, mate...
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sprintman wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:55 am I think he decided to move on quite some time ago. Just from stuff I read from a particular poster on the Dogs forum.
Link? What did they say?
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hrundi89 wrote: July 17, 2020, 11:00 am
BJ wrote: July 17, 2020, 9:56 amsurely a manager has the long term interests of a 21 year old player in mind.
sUrElY a MaNaGeR hAs ThE lOnG tErM iNtErEsTs Of A 21 yEaR oLd PlAyEr In MiNd.
Yeah BJ, you might want to retract that comment. :lol:
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Northern Raider wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:52 am
Raiders666 wrote: July 17, 2020, 10:40 am Nick has been sensational this season...Really hope he stays. You can tell how frustrated he gets when CNK refuses to pass to him
Imagine how frustrated he would be at the end of that Bulldogs backline.
All the chances Nic Meaney and Marcello Montoya will be creating for him :roflmao
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