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Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
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Beejay wrote:Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
But you're out, and that's ok?

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Beejay booked Pitt st for today
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Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
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Beejay wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:26 am Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
Ummmmm Beejay...?
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greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:49 am Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
Nine News saying NSW and Victoria pushing to close down bars, cafes and restaurants, lock down all other non essential activity ie you can shop and not much else. Want to close schools. Victoria will close schools Tuesday by the looks in any event.
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greeneyed wrote:Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
People should somehow be banned from travelling from town to town right now. We have no cases in Rocky and there’s no evidence of transmission in Rocky and the only way it’s going to come here is if people bring it here!

There is literally no benefit to people in Rocky at present not going out or not socialising. The key is preventing people bringing the disease here by limiting non-essential travel.
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raiderskater wrote:
Beejay wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:26 am Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
Ummmmm Beejay...?
Hahaha god, the ironing here is amazing. SURELY this is an elaborate dubby trap by Beejay, surely?
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The Nickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
People should somehow be banned from travelling from town to town right now. We have no cases in Rocky and there’s no evidence of transmission in Rocky and the only way it’s going to come here is if people bring it here!

There is literally no benefit to people in Rocky at present not going out or not socialising. The key is preventing people bringing the disease here by limiting non-essential travel.
Um I hate to tell you, but there has been a case in Rockie
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:15 am
The Nickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
People should somehow be banned from travelling from town to town right now. We have no cases in Rocky and there’s no evidence of transmission in Rocky and the only way it’s going to come here is if people bring it here!

There is literally no benefit to people in Rocky at present not going out or not socialising. The key is preventing people bringing the disease here by limiting non-essential travel.
Um I hate to tell you, but there has been a case in Rockie
May as well take your blockade down now Nickman
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The Nickman wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:14 am
raiderskater wrote:
Beejay wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:26 am Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
Ummmmm Beejay...?
Hahaha god, the ironing here is amazing. SURELY this is an elaborate dubby trap by Beejay, surely?
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Dr Zaius wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Prime Minister says that all non essential travel should be cancelled. Excludes travel required for your job or on compassionate grounds. Northern Territory saying it will close borders on Tuesday. "National Cabinet" meeting tonight... won't be surprised if all States close borders at some point.
People should somehow be banned from travelling from town to town right now. We have no cases in Rocky and there’s no evidence of transmission in Rocky and the only way it’s going to come here is if people bring it here!

There is literally no benefit to people in Rocky at present not going out or not socialising. The key is preventing people bringing the disease here by limiting non-essential travel.
Um I hate to tell you, but there has been a case in Rockie
We've tracked the movements of Rockies infected person. He was last seen at Rockies best restaurant and the week before at the pub?

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Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.

Saying on The Footy Show that they are trying to find out if the Prime Minister' announcement means the NRL must stop. A Nine political reporter said in one of the crosses that NRL and AFL are "over", but it seems it is not so clear. I won't be surprised if we're closed down before Thursday.
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On The Sunday Footy Show... Brent Read says he's spoken to Peter V'landys and says this morning's announcement doesn't affect their plans to continue.

But NSW and Victoria want to lock down entirely, and when that happens...
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greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.

Saying on The Footy Show that they are trying to find out if the Prime Minister' announcement means the NRL must stop. A Nine political reporter said in one of the crosses that NRL and AFL are "over", but it seems it is not so clear. I won't be surprised if we're closed down before Thursday.
Firstly it’s a recommendation to cancel no-essential travel. That would realistically refer to discretionary travel. This quote it the relevant one of the sports codes: "Essential travel, what we are referring to is work-related travel that could be essential,”

The AFL and NRL basically stop if they don’t travel so that’s about as essential as it gets. I also believe keeping the footy on as long a season possible is very important for public morale. Especially with so many people meant to be self isolating.
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greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:31 am On The Sunday Footy Show... Brent Read says he's spoken to Peter V'landys and says this morning's announcement doesn't affect their plans to continue.

But NSW and Victoria want to lock down entirely, and when that happens...
If that last bit happens then Bennet’s Suggestion of isolating the NRL teams at the one location might be the only option.
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Only way around it I think is playing all nrl games in Sydney, all afl games in Melbourne.
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The Nickman wrote:
raiderskater wrote:
Beejay wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:26 am Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
Ummmmm Beejay...?
Hahaha god, the ironing here is amazing. SURELY this is an elaborate dubby trap by Beejay, surely?
Unless that's where the local woolies is.. I'm not sure what just happened

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Would our boys need to relocate to Struggletown if borders are closed? Maybe playing out of Seiffert oval?

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gergreg wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:57 am Would our boys need to relocate to Struggletown if borders are closed? Maybe playing out of Seiffert oval?

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greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
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Northern Raider wrote: The AFL and NRL basically stop if they don’t travel so that’s about as essential as it gets. I also believe keeping the footy on as long a season possible is very important for public morale. Especially with so many people meant to be self isolating.
I’m not buying what you’re selling.

Read a book people. Watch endless hours of tv and movies.
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raiderskater wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:02 pm
greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
Nailed it. Our current national case rate is based only on people who:

Have travelled
Have been in contact with ‘known’ carrier
Have been hospitalised.

There are a significant volumes outside these parameters, who are being tested for Flu.
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Coastalraider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:18 pm
raiderskater wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:02 pm
greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
Nailed it. Our current national case rate is based only on people who:

Have travelled
Have been in contact with ‘known’ carrier
Have been hospitalised.

There are a significant volumes outside these parameters, who are being tested for Flu.
And the counter jumped to 19 cases an hour ago.

Still no comment from ACT Health, which I guess means there's at least one community transmission case in there and they don't want to admit it after carrying on about it a couple of days ago.
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They literally just released a statement

It's not like this is some cover up

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gangrenous wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:15 pm
Northern Raider wrote: The AFL and NRL basically stop if they don’t travel so that’s about as essential as it gets. I also believe keeping the footy on as long a season possible is very important for public morale. Especially with so many people meant to be self isolating.
I’m not buying what you’re selling.

Read a book people. Watch endless hours of tv and movies.
Only goes so far. I’d much rather have some footy throw in too.
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The Nickman wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:14 am
raiderskater wrote:
Beejay wrote: March 22, 2020, 10:26 am Just shopping with the Wife in Pitt St mall and there’s people everywhere. Unbelievable. When will these idiots get it through their head! Stay at home!
Ummmmm Beejay...?
Hahaha god, the ironing here is amazing. SURELY this is an elaborate dubby trap by Beejay, surely?
I’m here all week. Try the veal.
But seriously I am in Sydney on a trip away sans kids with the Wife... and the govt mandated us to not leave our hotel room. I mean, I’ve always joked about this but it’s actually happening
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Coastalraider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:18 pm
raiderskater wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:02 pm
greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
Nailed it. Our current national case rate is based only on people who:

Have travelled
Have been in contact with ‘known’ carrier
Have been hospitalised.

There are a significant volumes outside these parameters, who are being tested for Flu.
Given our testing resources are at capacity who do you believe we should be testing instead of those that are currently?

Keep in mind we already have one of the highest testing rates in the world.
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Canberra Raiders unlikely to be able to rely on licensed clubs during coronavirus pandemic

Canberra Raiders chief executive Don Furner admits if the NRL is forced to cancel games then they would be under financial pressure and would struggle to rely on the backing of their licensed clubs. Licensed clubs are facing an uncertain future of their own with the government potentially shutting down venues.

"We'll be under pressure. The same as every sporting club in every sport," Furner said. "The leagues clubs are under their own pressure in regards to the lockout of 100 people and less.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Prime Minister's travel ban won't force season to shut down

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced the federal government will work with the NRL and the AFL as the sports try to continue their competitions during the global coronavirus pandemic.

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Northern Raider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:41 pm
gangrenous wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:15 pm
Northern Raider wrote: The AFL and NRL basically stop if they don’t travel so that’s about as essential as it gets. I also believe keeping the footy on as long a season possible is very important for public morale. Especially with so many people meant to be self isolating.
I’m not buying what you’re selling.

Read a book people. Watch endless hours of tv and movies.
Only goes so far. I’d much rather have some footy throw in too.
I think it can only go so far. It looks like SA are going to shut their borders too which one would think would mean that the AFL and A-League stops. If SA and NT are closed it would seem highly likely that WA would do the same thing.

I am not sure that closing Vic/NSW/Qld/ACT borders is totally feasible because there are people who live and work on literally the other side of the road or river. I could however see some sort of border created in North Queensland. It has been talked about before with daylight savings etc. This then puts the Cowboys in doubt.

The NRL also walk a very, very fine line here. Community sentiment could turn very quickly from this is a good idea to lift public morale to utter contempt for the code. Saving $13 million per week may end up costing far more in the long run.

I am surprised there seems to be silence from all the companies who sponsor these codes. A player gets a speeding fine and it seems to be all about how the sponsors feel, but in this instance we haven’t heard a thing whether they believe we should keep going or not.
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Northern Raider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:59 pm
Coastalraider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:18 pm
raiderskater wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:02 pm
greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
Nailed it. Our current national case rate is based only on people who:

Have travelled
Have been in contact with ‘known’ carrier
Have been hospitalised.

There are a significant volumes outside these parameters, who are being tested for Flu.
Given our testing resources are at capacity who do you believe we should be testing instead of those that are currently?

Keep in mind we already have one of the highest testing rates in the world.
I realise we can’t do widespread testing, I understand that. But we just need to be mindful that the data is completely skewed by the basis of our testing methods.
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Bay53 wrote: March 22, 2020, 1:44 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:41 pm
gangrenous wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:15 pm
Northern Raider wrote: The AFL and NRL basically stop if they don’t travel so that’s about as essential as it gets. I also believe keeping the footy on as long a season possible is very important for public morale. Especially with so many people meant to be self isolating.
I’m not buying what you’re selling.

Read a book people. Watch endless hours of tv and movies.
Only goes so far. I’d much rather have some footy throw in too.
I think it can only go so far. It looks like SA are going to shut their borders too which one would think would mean that the AFL and A-League stops. If SA and NT are closed it would seem highly likely that WA would do the same thing.

I am not sure that closing Vic/NSW/Qld/ACT borders is totally feasible because there are people who live and work on literally the other side of the road or river. I could however see some sort of border created in North Queensland. It has been talked about before with daylight savings etc. This then puts the Cowboys in doubt.

The NRL also walk a very, very fine line here. Community sentiment could turn very quickly from this is a good idea to lift public morale to utter contempt for the code. Saving $13 million per week may end up costing far more in the long run.

I am surprised there seems to be silence from all the companies who sponsor these codes. A player gets a speeding fine and it seems to be all about how the sponsors feel, but in this instance we haven’t heard a thing whether they believe we should keep going or not.
What are they going to say publicly? Not sure any of them necessarily want the season to shut down, but in saying that, the sponsorship agreements are likely to have an exit clause if the games aren't being played.
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greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 1:40 pm Canberra Raiders unlikely to be able to rely on licensed clubs during coronavirus pandemic

Canberra Raiders chief executive Don Furner admits if the NRL is forced to cancel games then they would be under financial pressure and would struggle to rely on the backing of their licensed clubs. Licensed clubs are facing an uncertain future of their own with the government potentially shutting down venues.

"We'll be under pressure. The same as every sporting club in every sport," Furner said. "The leagues clubs are under their own pressure in regards to the lockout of 100 people and less.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

Prime Minister's travel ban won't force season to shut down

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced the federal government will work with the NRL and the AFL as the sports try to continue their competitions during the global coronavirus pandemic.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/03/21/cor ... t-updates/
The reality is the sport and the 16 clubs will survive if the sport and the 16 clubs are willing to work together to make it survive.

The current salary cap is $9.6 million. The 16 clubs are all able to pay that, plus a lot of staff whether they be in football operations, medical, membership, marketing, community programs etc. The sport has been able to build superb training facilities and have a fantastic competition. It probably cost $20 million per year to run a NRL club and if you aren’t spending that, you will struggle to be competitive.

However, going forward the cloth may have to be cut differently. Salary cap may only be able to be $6-7 million per year and clubs may have to be leaner off the field. If that is the case we can still have a competition. The problem starts when those clubs who still can afford the $20 million are allowed to keep spending it, whilst the clubs that can only afford $12 million are uncompetitive or worse spending the $20 million by going further into debt. Eventually the string breaks and clubs fold.

We need to remember that Covid-19, no matter how long it goes for, is not going to make rugby league less popular. (Assuming they don’t do something completely stupid). Provided this doesn’t wipe out half the population, or make the community so economically destitute, we will still have a great game to go back to.

In fact, I think that once this is all over, we are going to see record crowds like we have never seen before.
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Re: All NRL games from Round 2 to be played without fans due to coronavirus

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Coastalraider wrote: March 22, 2020, 1:50 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:59 pm
Coastalraider wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:18 pm
raiderskater wrote: March 22, 2020, 12:02 pm
greeneyed wrote: March 22, 2020, 11:24 am Everyone who has it in the ACT have brought it in from overseas.
Huge correction here:

Everyone who they know has it has brought it in from overseas. There are almost certainly more cases they don't know about because you can't get a test unless you've been overseas or had contact with someone who "they know" has it.

There are absolutely more than 9 cases in Canberra and there is absolutely community transmission here, the ACT Health folks just don't want to admit it.
Nailed it. Our current national case rate is based only on people who:

Have travelled
Have been in contact with ‘known’ carrier
Have been hospitalised.

There are a significant volumes outside these parameters, who are being tested for Flu.
Given our testing resources are at capacity who do you believe we should be testing instead of those that are currently?

Keep in mind we already have one of the highest testing rates in the world.
I realise we can’t do widespread testing, I understand that. But we just need to be mindful that the data is completely skewed by the basis of our testing methods.
Not sure skewed is the right word here. It's not definitive based on the point you made. It's still the best data we have. Health authorities have identified the most likely targets and have focused testing on those people. The rate of positive cases is now less than 1 in 100.

If there's a better method of testing I'm sure we would seriously consider adopting it.
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