Curtis Scott police assault charges dropped after court rules arrest 'unlawful'

[BJ]

Weapons expert advising on matter is too busy stockpiling guns and ammunition in preparation for impending world meltdown.

[Seiffert82]

Nobody is going to look particularly good after this episode. Very regretful.

[Botman]

Hearing Friday, potential full hearing in July, police seeking a report from an expert in weapons training to see if police actions warranted.

That's sort of telling imo.
If even the cops are seeking some outside advice on whether their officers actions were warranted, i'd say the Scott camp are sitting on a pretty solid case

I think there is very good chance this thing gets tossed at this point, or at most, Scott's team will agree on pleas for all the who gives a **** charges like the loitering and offensive behaviour stuff, and the assaults are tossed

[greeneyed]

Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott heading to court to face charges

Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott's court case is heading towards a hearing after a police expert's report backed how the arresting officers handled his arrest. The matter has been set down for a hearing on July 14-15, with a further mention date on June 16 to confirm the hearing date.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280

[Dusty]

SMH are showing some of the arrest footage on their page: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/scott- ... 54ccm.html

Looks like a lot of police concerned about his health

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[greeneyed]

Scott arrest footage emerges as lawyer argues incident could have been fatal

The lawyer of Canberra centre Curtis Scott is set to argue police could have caused "serious injury or death" with their use of a Taser as video footage of the NRL player's arrest near the SCG emerged for the first time.

In CCTV footage obtained by the Herald, Scott is shown being led away and pushed up against a paddy wagon with 12 police officers on scene. The 22-year-old is also seen in distress on the pavement being treated by paramedics, having earlier been Tasered and pepper sprayed.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/scott- ... 54ccm.html

Watch: Curtis Scott’s Australia Day arrest vision which lawyer says could have caused death: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 4d328a4a94

[BJ]

Looks like some of the officers have been training with the Melbourne Storm to perfect their choke holds.

[Smurfette]

Well that footage shows... nothing.

[Elcaptcroker]

So the question is how come only that piece of footage was released? Where both parties are being civil and Cooperative and police showing concern? And not the actual footage of the incident?


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[cat]

So the question is how come only that piece of footage was released? Where both parties are being civil and Cooperative and police showing concern? And not the actual footage of the incident?


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I think the answer is in who released the footage

22 witnesses called! Thought no one was around

1 security guard
1 taxi driver
2 paramedics
1 expert in police
And 17 police officers?

[Peter]

This is not looking good for the police. For a relatively minor case (nobody was killed or seriously injured), requesting 22 witnesses to justify yourselves does not sound quite right.

If they had acted lawfully, the footage and statements from the first officers on scene would surely be enough to clear them.

[Northern Raider]

Well that footage shows... nothing.

Yep

[Northern Raider]

So the question is how come only that piece of footage was released? Where both parties are being civil and Cooperative and police showing concern? And not the actual footage of the incident?


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I think the answer is in who released the footage

22 witnesses called! Thought no one was around

1 security guard
1 taxi driver
2 paramedics
1 expert in police
And 17 police officers?

Who told you nobody was there?

[Seiffert82]

I think there is little doubt that Curtis Scott was in a pretty bad way on that night. His alleged behaviour prior to the incident was pretty loose. He clearly had no idea what was going on. Hopefully lesson learned.

What happened with the police during the incident seems next level ordinary.

A really regrettable evening for everyone involved.

[raiderskater]

I saw this comment elsewhere and it seems to sum it up perfectly:

"12 police to arrest a bloke sleeping it off behind a tree, and they need handcuffs, pepper spray and a tazer, the word excessive seems to fit".

Also, if the first three officers have arrived and woken him up roughly - well, I think most people jolted awake to see three people standing over them might get a bit startled and yikes-y.

He's obviously an idiot for getting that smashed, no question. But it's looking more and more like he was then the victim of some excessive force.

[Northern Raider]

surprised how many people here seem to know the details of what happened.

[gerg]

surprised how many people here seem to know the details of what happened.

I'm not surprised at all and it's the same people that demand misbehaving players from other clubs be drawn and quartered as soon as there are any allegations, but our boys deserve to be left off immediately because they are good boys.

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[Raidersteve]

surprised how many people here seem to know the details of what happened.

All I know is that the nrl have not stood him down. If Scott had gone berserk on the cops to the point that they needed 12 to handle him then there is no way he would be playing.

[raiderskater]

surprised how many people here seem to know the details of what happened.

I'm not surprised at all and it's the same people that demand misbehaving players from other clubs be drawn and quartered as soon as there are any allegations, but our boys deserve to be left off immediately because they are good boys.

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Curtis Scott is an idiot. He shouldn't have been out getting drunk and I'm mighty pissed off with him about it.

But the more information that comes out about this incident, the more it's clear it's not as straightforward as it seems.

[gerg]

surprised how many people here seem to know the details of what happened.

I'm not surprised at all and it's the same people that demand misbehaving players from other clubs be drawn and quartered as soon as there are any allegations, but our boys deserve to be left off immediately because they are good boys.

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Curtis Scott is an idiot. He shouldn't have been out getting drunk and I'm mighty pissed off with him about it.

But the more information that comes out about this incident, the more it's clear it's not as straightforward as it seems.

You're completely missing the point. Do I really need to spell it out for you and Cat?

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[RedRaider]

Out of all of this I hope Scott has learned a lesson. He got himself into such a state his team mates put him into a cab to go back to their accommodation. He diverts from that and gets to a point where he falls asleep outside the SCG. Police come to move him on and he reacts to the point where taser and pepper spray are used to subdue him. A player with good footy skills appears to have a problem with alcohol. We've seen this movie before. If he learns from it he will make millions from his time in the game. Or he could go down the path of others who lacked the maturity to make the necessary changes and capitalise on their talent. Over to you Curtis - which path will it be.

[FROG]

Well put red, and just for the record, im backing him to make the right decision. Primarily cause i think we've got a great culture at the moment, one which has steered a few down the right path

[greeneyed]

Canberra star’s lawyer expects serious assault charges to be dropped by May 28

Curtis Scott’s lawyer expects serious assault and resist arrest charges against the Canberra star to be dropped this week.

“The offensive conduct and the trespass, they are minor matters,” Macedone said. “The big problem was the charges against him of resisting police and assaulting police, he was never going to accept those charges. They are the ones I’ve asked the police to withdraw on the basis they won’t succeed with them anyway.”

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... f0e5a67305

Curtis Scott matter could be finalised this week: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/curtis ... 54pni.html

[Botman]

It’s certainly been trending that way for a long time.

[Northern Raider]

I've had enough of his new lawyer's professionalism and competence. Bring back that first guy. He was a lot more fun.

[Botman]

Yeah i liked the cut of Denuto's jib, the result was going to end up the same any which way it was sliced (legally, at least, the charges seem pretty unlikely to stick and it's felt that way since pretty early... but man he went about his business in a way i really appreciated.

Though it seemed like Denuto had put himself offside with Greenberg, so perhaps that decision might have been different

[Old School Green]

I've had enough of his new lawyer's professionalism and competence. Bring back that first guy. He was a lot more fun.

X1000!

[Azza]

Stupid photocopier

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Tray 3 I cleared tray 3 3 **** times, f3 what the **** is that

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[Matt]

Yeah i liked the cut of Denuto's jib, the result was going to end up the same any which way it was sliced (legally, at least, the charges seem pretty unlikely to stick and it's felt that way since pretty early... but man he went about his business in a way i really appreciated.

Though it seemed like Denuto had put himself offside with Greenberg, so perhaps that decision might have been different

Yeah, but the ride would have been much more fun

[KasparRaider]

Even if his charges get knocked down to minor, I assume he will still get suspended by the NRL but for a shorter timeframe. Hopefully only for a few weeks.

[BJ]

Surely if his charges get downgraded he’s only looking at about two weeks.

[Neeeegz]

Footy players have done worse than he did.
Major charges dropped.
Play on and lesson learnt. I bet it gave him a big scare and we won't see that from him again.

[Botman]

Even if his charges get knocked down to minor, I assume he will still get suspended by the NRL but for a shorter timeframe. Hopefully only for a few weeks.

I dont know that he will... I think this is going to end up being that Scott pleads to some EXTREMELY minor charges to just put this behind him and everything else is dropped with the cops running with their tail between their legs...i think it might end up being a fine, or in this current circumstance, if this **** gets dropped on the down low... the NRL might just prefer to keep sleeping dogs lie and let us handle it internally.

At this stage, id bet against a suspension from the NRL.

[Botman]

I bet it gave him a big scare and we won't see that from him again.

I have some minor doubts on this... but then i know we got BJ when he had a laundry list of off field concerns and Stuart sorted that out. So hopefully.