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gangrenous wrote: February 29, 2020, 9:40 am I’ve got little sympathy when you bring the game into disrepute.

Don’t want the CEO to confuse the combos you’re training prior to round 1? Don’t put yourself in the position in the first place.
I agree in theory - this is on Scott's head - but it's not OK for the NRL to arbitrarily deal with similar matters quickly and then let others drag on for months.
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Exactly Gangers. The NRL doesn't owe us anything in this situation.

Some posters on here (not mentioning any names) are quick to lay the boot into other teams players when they've done the wrong thing, but then treat our own players like victims after they have misbehaved.

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gangrenous wrote: February 29, 2020, 9:40 am I’ve got little sympathy when you bring the game into disrepute.

Don’t want the CEO to confuse the combos you’re training prior to round 1? Don’t put yourself in the position in the first place.
I agree in theory - this is on Scott's head - but it's not OK for the NRL to arbitrarily deal with similar matters quickly and then let others drag on for months.
Yeah, nah. Curtis created this and then hired a **** lawyer full of bluff and bluster. You could argue that that decision has delayed the NRL decision making process.

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gergreg wrote: February 29, 2020, 11:23 am
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gangrenous wrote: February 29, 2020, 9:40 am I’ve got little sympathy when you bring the game into disrepute.

Don’t want the CEO to confuse the combos you’re training prior to round 1? Don’t put yourself in the position in the first place.
I agree in theory - this is on Scott's head - but it's not OK for the NRL to arbitrarily deal with similar matters quickly and then let others drag on for months.
Yeah, nah. Curtis created this and then hired a **** lawyer full of bluff and bluster. You could argue that that decision has delayed the NRL decision making process.

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I've been the biggest critic of Scott and his ridiculous Hollywood lawyer from day one. If I was the club I'd be standing him down for a couple of weeks for being a ****, irrespective of the outcome of this legal circus.

On a somewhat related topic, I also think the NRL are amateur hour operators when it comes to dealing with this stuff. The "integrity unit" is basically one bloke. The way he handles decisions is based on what side of the bed he wakes up on or whether he's even in the country at the time.

It has always been a bogus process and it's not good enough for a professional sport.
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Curtis Scott has brought this on himself, no doubt. I’m not going to complain about any penalty handed out, provided there’s consistency. As for the process... the NRL should be handling this a whole lot better.
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gangrenous wrote: February 29, 2020, 9:40 am I’ve got little sympathy when you bring the game into disrepute.

Don’t want the CEO to confuse the combos you’re training prior to round 1? Don’t put yourself in the position in the first place.
This is disingenuous. Of course he shouldn't have put himself in that position in the first place. But the CEO shouldn't be blustering and shouting for the footage by a certain date and then claiming he doesn't have time to watch it. Every other stand-down decision has been made quickly and timely - except this one.

EDIT: And claiming Scott's first lawyer caused the delay is even more so. The delay with getting Greenberg the footage was due to NSW Police, not Scott's lawyer.
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greeneyed wrote:Curtis Scott has brought this on himself, no doubt. I’m not going to complain about any penalty handed out, provided there’s consistency. As for the process... the NRL should be handling this a whole lot better.
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raiderskater wrote:
gangrenous wrote: February 29, 2020, 9:40 am I’ve got little sympathy when you bring the game into disrepute.

Don’t want the CEO to confuse the combos you’re training prior to round 1? Don’t put yourself in the position in the first place.
This is disingenuous.
It’s not disingenuous at all.
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kona_dream wrote: February 29, 2020, 8:15 am My complete speculative thoughts are Curtis Scott lawyer is "negotiating" on the charges to see how many can be dropped or changed. Greenberg is waiting to see the outcome of these "negotiations" before deciding to wait for the court case or stand down early.
Agree. There is definitely stuff going on in the background and Greenburger is waiting for that before making his decision. It could be that he wants to say "no ban", but is holding off as this may upset the Police. So he waits for them to plead it out, rather than p*ssing the cops off
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kona_dream wrote: February 29, 2020, 8:15 am My complete speculative thoughts are Curtis Scott lawyer is "negotiating" on the charges to see how many can be dropped or changed. Greenberg is waiting to see the outcome of these "negotiations" before deciding to wait for the court case or stand down early.
Agree. There is definitely stuff going on in the background and Greenburger is waiting for that before making his decision. It could be that he wants to say "no ban", but is holding off as this may upset the Police. So he waits for them to plead it out, rather than p*ssing the cops off
So you’re saying Greenberg has actively avoided spending less than an hour watching a video and making a decision so he doesn’t piss off the cops?
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I've only been dipping in and out of this thread over the past few weeks, so apologies if it's been discussed, but...

Why the hell does Todd Greenberg even get to see the footage? What grounds does he have? Why is he not like any other employer in Australia?

I'm struggling to understand the reasoning here. What is the law in this instance?
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Zip Zip wrote: March 2, 2020, 10:58 am I've only been dipping in and out of this thread over the past few weeks, so apologies if it's been discussed, but...

Why the hell does Todd Greenberg even get to see the footage? What grounds does he have? Why is he not like any other employer in Australia?

I'm struggling to understand the reasoning here. What is the law in this instance?
He has no legal right to see it as I understand it. If the defence or prosecution refused to show it to him, he couldn't see it. That was the original problem with him not seeing the vision... he demanded it from the defence lawyer, but the NSW police/prosecutors hadn't agreed to that point.
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Greenbog is in Brisbane today talking expansion and captains challenge..

When's he going to spend some time dealing with CScott ?
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-PJ- wrote: March 2, 2020, 1:12 pm Greenbog is in Brisbane today talking expansion and captains challenge..

When's he going to spend some time dealing with CScott ?
He will wait for closer to game for more impact, call me based but bo frikkin way he does this to Broncos.

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Johno wrote: March 2, 2020, 3:17 pm
-PJ- wrote: March 2, 2020, 1:12 pm Greenbog is in Brisbane today talking expansion and captains challenge..

When's he going to spend some time dealing with CScott ?
He will wait for closer to game for more impact, call me based but bo frikkin way he does this to Broncos.

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I suspect he may be waiting as long as possible so as to give the new lawyer the space to try and work some charges dropped/downgraded magic, thus making it an easier decision for him to make. It would be a bit foolish if grunberger came out and banned him, only to have the fuzz drop the most serious charges the next day etc.
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There is an article on SMH that says Greenberg has viewed it and discussed it with Macedone. He didnt sound too positive as to Todd's view of the footage.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/greenb ... 5463u.html
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NRL CEO Todd Greenberg to make call on Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott by end of the week

NRL boss Todd Greenberg will decide by the end of the week whether Raiders recruit Curtis Scott will be subject to the no-fault stand-down rule after meeting with his lawyer Sam Macedone early on Monday.

"We had a very robust discussion, we covered all aspects of the matter and both of us got to have a say. He is a pretty busy man, flying from place to place, I’m hoping by the end of the week we will have an answer. He viewed the footage and I didn’t question his thoughts on it. All I can do to hope now."

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/greenb ... 5463u.html
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It will make the NRL look like more of a joke if they ban him this close to the season starting.
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Neeeegz wrote: March 2, 2020, 4:29 pm It will make the NRL look like more of a joke if they ban him this close to the season starting.
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greeneyed wrote: March 2, 2020, 4:28 pm NRL CEO Todd Greenberg to make call on Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott by end of the week

NRL boss Todd Greenberg will decide by the end of the week whether Raiders recruit Curtis Scott will be subject to the no-fault stand-down rule after meeting with his lawyer Sam Macedone early on Monday.

"We had a very robust discussion, we covered all aspects of the matter and both of us got to have a say. He is a pretty busy man, flying from place to place, I’m hoping by the end of the week we will have an answer. He viewed the footage and I didn’t question his thoughts on it. All I can do to hope now."

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/greenb ... 5463u.html
:lol: busy man indeed. For the fourth time agreeing to make a call by the end of the week.
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Seiffert82 wrote:
Neeeegz wrote: March 2, 2020, 4:29 pm It will make the NRL look like more of a joke if they ban him this close to the season starting.
History says they don't give a ****.
Not a single soul that isn’t a Raiders fan gives a crap. It won’t make the NRL look like anything.
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NRL's call on Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott in next two days

NRL boss Todd Greenberg expects to decide on whether he'll stand down Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott in the next couple of days.

"We'll do that in the next few days - as soon as I get out of Brisbane," Greenberg said of the Scott decision. "I committed to come to Brisbane today so I'll deal with that in the next couple of days."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Danny Weidler called it "Very interesting". I think that sounds positive TBH.

I've thought all along, he did it, BUT, police didn't follow protocol, which is why his lawyers were all positive, and almost overconfident.

So, he'll get off, but not because he is innocent per say
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Per se
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greeneyed wrote: March 2, 2020, 6:10 pm NRL's call on Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott in next two days

NRL boss Todd Greenberg expects to decide on whether he'll stand down Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott in the next couple of days.

"We'll do that in the next few days - as soon as I get out of Brisbane," Greenberg said of the Scott decision. "I committed to come to Brisbane today so I'll deal with that in the next couple of days."

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
Of course, Brisbane comes first. They ring, Todd comes running. Raiders can wait a week. Yet. Another. Week.
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Matt wrote: March 2, 2020, 6:10 pm Danny Weidler called it "Very interesting". I think that sounds positive TBH.

I've thought all along, he did it, BUT, police didn't follow protocol, which is why his lawyers were all positive, and almost overconfident.

So, he'll get off, but not because he is innocent per say
Well yes, if the arrest isn't lawful then you actually ARE innocent of "resisting arrest" and "assaulting an officer in the course of their duty" because the "arrest" was just two idiots shoving you about, as unlawful arrests or accosting members of the public randomly and however they choose to are most definitely not police duties.
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Todd greedburger is the absolute pitts.. how hard is it to watch a video and make a decision.. i appreciate hes busy off flying to the superbowl and stuff, but what, the game is meant to be put on hold until he returns.. is there seriously nonone else in head office who can make a decision in the interests of the game?? if only the ceo is capable of making such a decision, then that says about all you need to know about the quality of the current administration.. bunch of jokers
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FROG wrote: March 2, 2020, 7:53 pm Todd greedburger is the absolute pitts.. how hard is it to watch a video and make a decision.. i appreciate hes busy off flying to the superbowl and stuff, but what, the game is meant to be put on hold until he returns.. is there seriously nonone else in head office who can make a decision in the interests of the game?? if only the ceo is capable of making such a decision, then that says about all you need to know about the quality of the current administration.. bunch of jokers
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When the no fault stand down came in it was for acts with a possible sentence of 11yrs plus gaol time, I find it hard to believe Curtis Scott is facing 11+ years behind bars if found guilty.
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Greenturd put in a caveat on that policy that allows him to ignore his own policy and act as judge, jury, executioner... that's the go.
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bonehead wrote: March 2, 2020, 8:41 pm When the no fault stand down came in it was for acts with a possible sentence of 11yrs plus gaol time, I find it hard to believe Curtis Scott is facing 11+ years behind bars if found guilty.
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So Greenberg held off making a call on the scott situation so he could help a team who might one day get a spot in the nrl?
How much do you want to bet he holds off till Thursday when he is in Canberra, the guy has no class

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FROG wrote: March 2, 2020, 7:53 pm Todd greedburger is the absolute pitts.. how hard is it to watch a video and make a decision.. i appreciate hes busy off flying to the superbowl and stuff, but what, the game is meant to be put on hold until he returns.. is there seriously nonone else in head office who can make a decision in the interests of the game?? if only the ceo is capable of making such a decision, then that says about all you need to know about the quality of the current administration.. bunch of jokers
I don't think we've had a decent administration in place since the early 90s...
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I think Greenberg is trying to be a little bit like the NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell. He is the one that make the calls for off field behaviour and has an NFL commissioner exempt list. The only difference is that Goodell make decisions effectively and quickly. Gathers the required information and then make a call. He even acted within a day when a player ripped the QB helmet off and hit him over the head with it, simply said you are gone for the year.
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FROG wrote: March 2, 2020, 7:53 pm Todd greedburger is the absolute pitts.. how hard is it to watch a video and make a decision.. i appreciate hes busy off flying to the superbowl and stuff, but what, the game is meant to be put on hold until he returns.. is there seriously nonone else in head office who can make a decision in the interests of the game?? if only the ceo is capable of making such a decision, then that says about all you need to know about the quality of the current administration.. bunch of jokers
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