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Canberra Raiders couldn’t contact Curtis Scott after he allegedly threw his phone at a car

Canberra bosses were unable to contact Curtis Scott following his arrest in Sydney because he allegedly threw his mobile phone at a passing car earlier in the night.

“It’s a very disappointing way to start your career at a new club - very disappointing,’’ Raiders CEO Don Furner said. “Curtis has no phone and is on his way back to Canberra, but we have been speaking with his lawyer. We’ll catch up with him first thing Wednesday when the players are due back for training.”

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Surely the bit in the Herald article implying the cops handcuffed him while asleep is wrong.
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edwahu wrote: January 29, 2020, 10:08 am Surely the bit in the Herald article implying the cops handcuffed him while asleep is wrong.
Yeah, trying to work out how he could punch a cop in the face if he was cuffed.
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edwahu wrote: January 29, 2020, 10:08 am Surely the bit in the Herald article implying the cops handcuffed him while asleep is wrong.
I guess we'll find out at some stage...

Police body cameras were rolling on Curtis Scott arrest

Police who arrested star Canberra Raiders recruit Curtis Scott had their body-worn cameras rolling. Police sources indicate footage from the incident has been reviewed by senior officers who are satisfied the officers involved had followed strict protocol in arresting Scott.

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No doubt the Ricky, Don and the NRL Integrity Unit would all be keen to see the footage. They would base their own reaction on that rather than wait for the legal process to run its course.
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sounds like some corrupt Sydney policework if you ask me. Politis sending our club a reminder
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This is pretty hard words form both Stick and Donny - I would have thought they would take the soft approach of 'we will talk to Curtis and review all info prior to making a comment' line.

They have both come out pretty hard against his actions so far...
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And now he has reportedly been given the week off training to 'sort things out'....
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Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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Coastalraider wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:00 am And now he has reportedly been given the week off training to 'sort things out'....
The last thing he needs is a week off training...

He should be training, carrying the water bottles and putting away the tackle bags after every session. "Sort things out".. It was a 24hr period of stupidity and mistakes. Am I'm damn sure he's very remorseful when he fronts his boss and teammates today.
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Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
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Whispers that we are now looking at Adam Douhi from Souths


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Canberra Raiders train without embattled recruit Curtis Scott after police charges

Canberra centre Curtis Scott won't train with the team until at least Friday as the NRL club weighs up the next move regarding their embattled star recruit.

Canberra players returned to training on Wednesday but the club confirmed 22-year-old Scott won't rejoin the squad for at least two days.

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Canberra Raiders give Scott time off from training after arrest

Canberra have given recruit Curtis Scott the rest of this week off training following the Australia Day arrest that leaves his immediate playing future in doubt.

Meanwhile, the club is unlikely to hit the market for an outside back despite Scott's clouded future and the release of Joey Leilua to Wests Tigers earlier in the week.

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Canberra Raiders give Curtis Scott week off

The Canberra Raiders have given recruit Curtis Scott the week off training to sort things out. The 22-year-old was set to return to training after a few days off on Wednesday morning, but the NRL club has opted to give him time off instead.

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Has the kid blown a $2 m deal for the sake of one Australia Day bender?

It is very interesting that his teammates ditched him at some point in the evening. Not good signs for Scott at any level.
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Are we sure he was with Raiders players at the time?

Surely he was with Sydney mates at that point?
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Beejay wrote: January 28, 2020, 3:10 pm Also 'the Mole' is all chummy with his ex on Twitter right now - Tay Clark. She is posting and liking comments to the effect of Karma's a bitch

Mole alluding to their being a 'real' story from the past that probably wont come out because someone doesn't want it to.
"The Mole" should be very careful. All it could take is for someone in the right department to have a look at the tweets, and if someone has misled the integrity unit, then someone could be in worse trouble.
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Seiffert82 wrote: January 29, 2020, 12:07 pm Has the kid blown a $2 m deal for the sake of one Australia Day bender?

It is very interesting that his teammates ditched him at some point in the evening. Not good signs for Scott at any level.
Did they ditch him, or did he ditch them....
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I find it very very weird that the club would give him off till Friday. Just my hunch That either the club has already decided to sack him or He is going to come out and say Along the lines of I am taking 6 to 12 months off to get help and get his life back on track and the club will release him from his contract. That's just my Guess.
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Seiffert82 wrote: January 29, 2020, 12:07 pm Has the kid blown a $2 m deal for the sake of one Australia Day bender?

It is very interesting that his teammates ditched him at some point in the evening. Not good signs for Scott at any level.
Plenty of NRL players in this category. Carney, Dugan, Ben Barba, David "what happens in Bali stays in Bali" Fifita.... the list goes on.
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I’m guessing the extra days off are for him to seek professional help for his obvious alcohol issues. Being an ex alcoholic myself, the best thing I ever did was take the time I needed and reached out to qualified professionals for help. I haven’t touched a drink in 9 months. I hope Curtis takes these steps as it can really turn your life around. If he elects not to, well then I don’t see why we should stick by him when he isn’t willing to help himself.


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I think people are reading far too much into the fact he wasn’t with the rest of the team when it happened. I saw three groups of friends on Australia Day - I didn’t have a falling out with any of them, I was just always seeing different groups of friends. Scott has known the team for what, a month? He was probably always meeting his old Sydney mates after kicking things off with the team.

And where are these ‘whispers’ we’re looking at Douhei coming from? All I’ve heard is people who have nothing to do with the club on here, Reddit or Facebook going ‘gee Douhei would be nice’.
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Timbo wrote:I think people are reading far too much into the fact he wasn’t with the rest of the team when it happened. I saw three groups of friends on Australia Day - I didn’t have a falling out with any of them, I was just always seeing different groups of friends. Scott has known the team for what, a month? He was probably always meeting his old Sydney mates after kicking things off with the team.

And where are these ‘whispers’ we’re looking at Douhei coming from? All I’ve heard is people who have nothing to do with the club on here, Reddit or Facebook going ‘gee Douhei would be nice’.
There’s a report in today’s Daily Telegraph. See the separate thread.


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greeneyed wrote: January 29, 2020, 1:45 pm
Timbo wrote:I think people are reading far too much into the fact he wasn’t with the rest of the team when it happened. I saw three groups of friends on Australia Day - I didn’t have a falling out with any of them, I was just always seeing different groups of friends. Scott has known the team for what, a month? He was probably always meeting his old Sydney mates after kicking things off with the team.

And where are these ‘whispers’ we’re looking at Douhei coming from? All I’ve heard is people who have nothing to do with the club on here, Reddit or Facebook going ‘gee Douhei would be nice’.
There’s a report in today’s Daily Telegraph. See the separate thread.


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Yeah, which is a journalist speculating that we're 'in the mix'.

In otherwords, a journalist has looked at the clubs who may need an outside back for 2020, noted that Scott has done something that may be a sackable offence and suggested we are a possibility.

Unless we've decided to sack Scott already, we're not in the mix for Douhei. Who is just a run of the mill outside back anyway.
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LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
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Northern Raider wrote: January 29, 2020, 2:20 pm
LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
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Northern Raider wrote: January 29, 2020, 1:00 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: January 29, 2020, 12:07 pm Has the kid blown a $2 m deal for the sake of one Australia Day bender?

It is very interesting that his teammates ditched him at some point in the evening. Not good signs for Scott at any level.
Plenty of NRL players in this category. Carney, Dugan, Ben Barba, David "what happens in Bali stays in Bali" Fifita.... the list goes on.
Indeed. And their fate generally depends on how good they are on the field. Unfortunately in Scott's case, he hasn't done a great deal to prove his worth...and absolutely zero onfield with our club.

He's clearly a dumbass on the drink. He needs to get it sorted.
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yeh raiders wrote: January 29, 2020, 12:30 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: January 29, 2020, 12:07 pm Has the kid blown a $2 m deal for the sake of one Australia Day bender?

It is very interesting that his teammates ditched him at some point in the evening. Not good signs for Scott at any level.
Did they ditch him, or did he ditch them....
Either way it's not a good sign for him. In these situations I suspect the coach and management take on board what the senior players think about the situation and maybe what the punishment might include. Who knows if Scott has endeared himself to those with influence?

The kid has been here for 20 minutes and has already shown what he's capable of on the booze. He'll need support from the playing group if the club chooses to retain him.
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Northern Raider wrote:
LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
Which can happen and ive seen it happen in ACT where a drunken person has been woken up in freaked out and the more the police try to subdue them the more agressive they became due to being drunk and confused.


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Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 3:07 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
Which can happen and ive seen it happen in ACT where a drunken person has been woken up in freaked out and the more the police try to subdue them the more agressive they became due to being drunk and confused.


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Northern Raider wrote: January 29, 2020, 3:53 pm
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 3:07 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:03 am Acouple of cases ive seen happy to people out on the piss, has been-theyve passed out or blacked out drunk, get woken by an officer, which is when the drunk oerson wakes up to some random trying to do something to him, and being drunk would react with aggression thinking they themselves were being attacked, not being in the headspace to know they wete police. Lash out and hit them to when the cops swarm and attempt to subdue the person, and then get worse when they realise their getting arrested


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This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
Which can happen and ive seen it happen in ACT where a drunken person has been woken up in freaked out and the more the police try to subdue them the more agressive they became due to being drunk and confused.


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Rubbish. This is a 3rd party anecdote about an unidentified individual. Not even remotely close to "dangerous territory".
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Timbo has three groups of friends? Well I'll be....
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Northern Raider wrote: January 29, 2020, 4:26 pm
Northern Raider wrote: January 29, 2020, 3:53 pm
Elcaptcroker wrote: January 29, 2020, 3:07 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
LimeGreenMachine wrote: January 29, 2020, 11:40 am

This is my train of thought how it may have happened. I don't think its a punch like the Dylan Walker punch but more of a lashing out as he was still drunk and getting woken up by someone he thought was to harm him.

If I'm his lawyer that's what my defence would be as long as the cameras back it up.
Statistically NSW Police acutally using a taser in the course of duty happens around 150 per year. Thats a very small number given the total of arrests made. It suggests that a person is acting with hightened levels of violence for the police to resort to using the taser on them.
Which can happen and ive seen it happen in ACT where a drunken person has been woken up in freaked out and the more the police try to subdue them the more agressive they became due to being drunk and confused.


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Moderator note: Entering dangerous territory.
Rubbish. This is a 3rd party anecdote about an unidentified individual. Not even remotely close to "dangerous territory".
Moderator note: Given the post that immediately followed, prompted by the post, it was entering dangerous territory.
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