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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 9:34 am
by GMGT
julian87 wrote: July 24, 2020, 8:41 am Like the roosters, I’d be disregarding his Toronto form considering a few things:

- He’s an all time great.
- He’s a fitness freak
- He knows the set up and will be comfortable in his surroundings.

The potential he could add as their 4th bench player is monumental imo.
This.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 9:38 am
by Northern Raider
julian87 wrote: July 24, 2020, 8:41 am Like the roosters, I’d be disregarding his Toronto form considering a few things:

- He’s an all time great.
- He’s a fitness freak
- He knows the set up and will be comfortable in his surroundings.

The potential he could add as their 4th bench player is monumental imo.
I understand where you're coming from but I don't see it that way. Consider Roosters at full strength. They will always carry Lam as backup for Friend. Liu and Collins will form the middle rotation, which SBW won't be part of. That leave Tupouniua as the 4th bench player. How much more will SBW give them than Tupouniua?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 9:51 am
by julian87
JWH
Friend
SST
Cordner
Crichton
Liu

Aubusson
Collins
Topu
SBW (in for Butcher)

Lam will be replaced by Aubbo at full strength imo.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 10:05 am
by Northern Raider
julian87 wrote: July 24, 2020, 9:51 am JWH
Friend
SST
Cordner
Crichton
Liu

Aubusson
Collins
Topu
SBW (in for Butcher)

Lam will be replaced by Aubbo at full strength imo.
They won't go into a game without cover for Friend. He's had too many injury issues recently. With both Radley and Verrills out they're compelled to include Lam, even though he's not a hooker.

Butcher or Liu will be starting 13 (unless they start Collins again). The other will be on the bench as a middle forward. I agree SBW is potentially and upgrade on Butcher, who I don't really rate. Caveat is SBW not stinking it up like he did at the Wolfpack.

Aubo doesn't make the team at full strength, which in itself is quite bizarre. He would walk into just about any other team.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 10:31 am
by Botman
Unless SBW is willing to forgo his Toronto contract, he shouldnt allowed to come back

if he is, and he does... the competition is a wrap imo

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 24, 2020, 1:16 pm
by Beejay
I'm willing to knock a champion in this case. Can't see this helping the Roosters on the field.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 9:21 am
by gangrenous
I see the NRL have decided SBW is worth 400k per year in the NRL. That seems to gel neatly with the Roosters paying him about 150k for an end of season cameo doesn’t it?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 10:08 am
by bonehead
gangrenous wrote:I see the NRL have decided SBW is worth 400k per year in the NRL. That seems to gel neatly with the Roosters paying him about 150k for an end of season cameo doesn’t it?
that seems about right, he'll only play 9 games maximum for a guy on the wrong side of 30 out of the nrl for 4yrs? played what 5 games of esl and was terrible

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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 10:19 am
by BJ
bonehead wrote:
gangrenous wrote:I see the NRL have decided SBW is worth 400k per year in the NRL. That seems to gel neatly with the Roosters paying him about 150k for an end of season cameo doesn’t it?
that seems about right, he'll only play 9 games maximum for a guy on the wrong side of 30 out of the nrl for 4yrs? played what 5 games of esl and was terrible

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Do you really think that if SBW went to an open auction for all NRL clubs then the winning bid would be only $400k for the season?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 10:38 am
by greeneyed
BJ wrote: July 25, 2020, 10:19 am
bonehead wrote:
gangrenous wrote:I see the NRL have decided SBW is worth 400k per year in the NRL. That seems to gel neatly with the Roosters paying him about 150k for an end of season cameo doesn’t it?
that seems about right, he'll only play 9 games maximum for a guy on the wrong side of 30 out of the nrl for 4yrs? played what 5 games of esl and was terrible

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Do you really think that if SBW went to an open auction for all NRL clubs then the winning bid would be only $400k for the season?
I don’t.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 10:48 am
by julian87
The bloke wouldn’t be interested in playing for anyone else.

Luckily Australian sport isn’t like American sport where the player just goes where they’re told.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 10:51 am
by Northern Raider
So has SBW been valued around the same as Rapana after his Japan Rigby stint?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 11:45 am
by sprintman
julian87 wrote: July 25, 2020, 10:48 am The bloke wouldn’t be interested in playing for anyone else.

Luckily Australian sport isn’t like American sport where the player just goes where they’re told.
They do. Ever watched an AFL draft?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 12:26 pm
by -PJ-
BJ wrote: July 25, 2020, 10:19 am
bonehead wrote:
gangrenous wrote:I see the NRL have decided SBW is worth 400k per year in the NRL. That seems to gel neatly with the Roosters paying him about 150k for an end of season cameo doesn’t it?
that seems about right, he'll only play 9 games maximum for a guy on the wrong side of 30 out of the nrl for 4yrs? played what 5 games of esl and was terrible

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Do you really think that if SBW went to an open auction for all NRL clubs then the winning bid would be only $400k for the season?
He's a greedy toad..

I'm surprised he's not getting $400k every game..

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 12:50 pm
by BJ
According to an in depth article in the Daily Telegraph on player salaries, Raiders players like Havilli, Lui, Hors, Guler are all on less than $300k a season. We certainly manage our cap better than we did in the old days.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 1:10 pm
by BadnMean
BJ wrote: July 25, 2020, 12:50 pm According to an in depth article in the Daily Telegraph on player salaries, Raiders players like Havilli, Lui, Hors, Guler are all on less than $300k a season. We certainly manage our cap better than we did in the old days.
That sounds about right for when they were signed. Lui took a slight paycut when he resigned last time.

Guler was extended in late 2018 before he was a real regular FGer. I'd guess Hors' situation is similar.

Havilii is a good player but probably not the kind of guy clubs try to lure with $400k offers- must clubs prefer to develop/makeshift their own utility and it's not a position most throw money at.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:19 pm
by sprintman
Titans release Boyd and we sign Ryan James.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:36 pm
by julian87
sprintman wrote: July 25, 2020, 11:45 am
julian87 wrote: July 25, 2020, 10:48 am The bloke wouldn’t be interested in playing for anyone else.

Luckily Australian sport isn’t like American sport where the player just goes where they’re told.
They do. Ever watched an AFL draft?
Nope because to be a genuine sport you don’t get a point for missing imo.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:39 pm
by sprintman
julian87 wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:36 pm
sprintman wrote: July 25, 2020, 11:45 am
julian87 wrote: July 25, 2020, 10:48 am The bloke wouldn’t be interested in playing for anyone else.

Luckily Australian sport isn’t like American sport where the player just goes where they’re told.
They do. Ever watched an AFL draft?
Nope because to be a genuine sport you don’t get a point for missing imo.
Still the biggest sport in the country. And we were talking about player movements and a draft.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:45 pm
by LimeGreenMachine
James Ryan reported to have agreed in principle to join us. 2 year deal 400k a year

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:47 pm
by boomer
LimeGreenMachine wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:45 pm James Ryan reported to have agreed in principle to join us. 2 year deal 400k a year
God dman. This year is crazy

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:51 pm
by simo
boomer wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:47 pm
LimeGreenMachine wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:45 pm James Ryan reported to have agreed in principle to join us. 2 year deal 400k a year
God dman. This year is crazy
Apparently pulling out on bullimore. Not sure i agree with it

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:54 pm
by Hazza
LimeGreenMachine wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:45 pm James Ryan reported to have agreed in principle to join us. 2 year deal 400k a year
James Ryan?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 3:55 pm
by boomer
simo wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:51 pm
boomer wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:47 pm
LimeGreenMachine wrote: July 25, 2020, 3:45 pm James Ryan reported to have agreed in principle to join us. 2 year deal 400k a year
God dman. This year is crazy
Apparently pulling out on bullimore. Not sure i agree with it
That might be because of fifita leaving. Id imagine we now have little chance of retaining him next year. Brisbane would of Frantically been negotiating with his manager to keep him.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:02 pm
by Damoni
Ryan James confirmed signing on Fox League

Not sure how I feel about this one

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:03 pm
by Begbie
Very pleased with the mid season shuffle. Previously we lose a star or two and get..... nothing. Just need to land Rona to make it even better

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:05 pm
by Northern Raider
That's a good pick up for that money IMO

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:06 pm
by boomer
Im concerned we will be losing a forward. But I assume he comes in for sia next year

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:07 pm
by Dylan’s Raiders
Northern Raider wrote: July 25, 2020, 4:05 pm That's a good pick up for that money IMO
I agree! I think two years is good too. Gives him plenty of time to settle in and find some form after coming back from injuries.

I think he also came to us because he wants to try and win a premiership. Seems like a pretty competitive dude in that way.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:10 pm
by sprintman
We beat off Chooks and Storm for Ryan’s signature.

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:15 pm
by Butters
Can someone tell me how much Jack's contract is worth? Currently debating this signing in context of how much we pay JW

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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:16 pm
by Dylan’s Raiders
2021? 🤔

1. CNK
2. Semi
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Harley Smith shields
5. Bailey Simonsson
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh papali
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Ryan James
11. CHN
12. Eliott whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Saliva havili
15. Corey Horsburgh
16. Emre Guler
17. Dunamis Lui

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:18 pm
by Green Blogger
We are stacked with forwards for next year. Not bad replacements for Bateman, Bateman and Collins!

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:21 pm
by Northern Raider
Dylan’s Raiders wrote: July 25, 2020, 4:16 pm 2021? 🤔

1. CNK
2. Semi
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Harley Smith shields
5. Bailey Simonsson
6. Jack Wighton
7. George Williams
8. Josh papali
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Ryan James
11. CHN
12. Eliott whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Saliva havili
15. Corey Horsburgh
16. Emre Guler
17. Dunamis Lui
Assuming Sia retires?

Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2020

Posted: July 25, 2020, 4:25 pm
by LP Raider
Ricky and the club doing a great job.