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Green Beers · Post by **Green Beers** » July 10, 2020, 9:18 am

Shaun fensom anyone?

Brew · Post by **Brew** » July 10, 2020, 10:10 am

Green Beers wrote:Shaun fensom anyone?

He was on the Raiders Podcast and they asked him and he said he would play 100%

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Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » July 10, 2020, 10:24 am

Shaun Fensom....
Absolutely

He bleeds green

GreenMachine · Post by **GreenMachine** » July 10, 2020, 10:42 am

Dusty wrote: ↑July 10, 2020, 10:24 am Shaun Fensom....
Absolutely

He bleeds green

I'd take Fensom over Boyd...but that is not saying much.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 10, 2020, 1:43 pm

Seems unlikely, but I'd take a mobile middle like Fenno for sure.

I think he'd be quite effective if not expected to make 50 tackles a game.

Then again, I never fully understood the vitriol against him. I'd be very happy to see Vaughan back too, but that seems even less likely!

simo · Post by **simo** » July 10, 2020, 7:38 pm

“Mobile middle like fensom”. Ok

Raiders666 · Post by **Raiders666** » July 10, 2020, 7:43 pm

What's all the talk about Fensom? Is this an inside joke?

-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » July 11, 2020, 12:09 am

Fensom is busted

I'd only look at him if it was dire for the rest of the year

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BadnMean · Post by **BadnMean** » July 11, 2020, 12:16 am

Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.

Rick · Post by **Rick** » July 11, 2020, 12:26 am

A smaller, fitter, defence first lock is what we should be chasing. Someone to take the work off our props, second rowers , 9, 6 and 7.

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Post by **T_R** » July 11, 2020, 7:50 am

BadnMean wrote:Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.

As of last year, he was signed for Belconnen and working on his carpentry apprenticeship.

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julian87 · Post by **julian87** » July 11, 2020, 8:44 am

I still reckon Peachey could be an astute signing as a dynamic, small lock. I’d imagine Holbrook wouldn’t mind being rid of some of his contract.

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » July 11, 2020, 8:53 am

julian87 wrote:I still reckon Peachey could be an astute signing as a dynamic, small lock. I’d imagine Holbrook wouldn’t mind being rid of some of his contract.

I agree. He needs a role. At the Titans he’s played different positions every week. I think he’s benefit having a specific role in the middle. Not sure if he’s exactly what we need though.

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Northern Raider · Post by **Northern Raider** » July 11, 2020, 9:19 am

Peachey would be an excellent addition if you wanted to add total confusion to your attacking structures.

simo · Post by **simo** » July 11, 2020, 9:21 am

Peacheys been on too good money for not having to have a go. Hes not going to start having a go for less If im taking a player from the titans its wallace looking to get back into origin form

gerg · Post by **gerg** » July 11, 2020, 9:52 am

simo wrote:Peacheys been on too good money for not having to have a go. Hes not going to start having a go for less If im taking a player from the titans its wallace looking to get back into origin form

Neither Peachey or Cartwright deserve any contract whatsoever after what they have dished up for the Titans. They are meant to be professional footballers. I hope neither get another contract in the NRL.

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Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 11, 2020, 11:00 am

simo wrote: ↑July 10, 2020, 7:38 pm “Mobile middle like fensom”. Ok

Well let's sign one of the other thousand top quality middles on the market for minimum wage.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 11, 2020, 11:06 am

BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.

We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.

simo · Post by **simo** » July 11, 2020, 12:18 pm

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 11:06 am
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.
We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.

No it wasnt. Fensom was my favourite player at a time but he declined rapidly. Not suited at all to current speed of game and would offer less to the squad than just upgrading the next junior coming through.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 11, 2020, 4:33 pm

simo wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:18 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 11:06 am
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.
We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.
No it wasnt. Fensom was my favourite player at a time but he declined rapidly. Not suited at all to current speed of game and would offer less to the squad than just upgrading the next junior coming through.

To be fair, I heard all of that stuff before he played a role for the Cowboys in reaching their Grand Final. The bloke busted his **** for us yet has copped more **** than Croker from many fans, and that's saying a lot.

Signing him is not going to happen, but I really don't see him as any slower than half the names raised here. With the injuries we have, the team is lacking a bit of experience. Whoever we bring in only needs to be solid in defence and plug a hole for 20 odd minutes a game, not play a key role.

Ruben Daley · Post by **Ruben Daley** » July 11, 2020, 4:59 pm

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 4:33 pm
simo wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:18 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 11:06 am
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.
We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.
No it wasnt. Fensom was my favourite player at a time but he declined rapidly. Not suited at all to current speed of game and would offer less to the squad than just upgrading the next junior coming through.
To be fair, I heard all of that stuff before he played a role for the Cowboys in reaching their Grand Final. The bloke busted his **** for us yet has copped more **** than Croker from many fans, and that's saying a lot.

Signing him is not going to happen, but I really don't see him as any slower than half the names raised here. With the injuries we have, the team is lacking a bit of experience. Whoever we bring in only needs to be solid in defence and plug a hole for 20 odd minutes a game, not play a key role.

Agreed, Seiffert.

We all saw Fensom go from a workhorse who carried our pack during some really lean years to a guy who wasn’t effective enough anymore to be a starter. I was disappointed to see his decline but agreed with the club when they moved on from him.

But this isn’t our usual signing need. We’re down to the bare bones and another injury or two and we’ll be carrying two backs on the bench.

Fensom could surely come off the bench for a spell to tackle and take some hit-ups. He’d be on minimum and not be keeping a youngster out of the team.

I cannot see the harm in signing him if we can’t attract anyone else.

I also think his service to club deserves better than he gets from some people on this forum.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 11, 2020, 5:09 pm

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 4:33 pm
simo wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:18 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 11:06 am
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.
We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.
No it wasnt. Fensom was my favourite player at a time but he declined rapidly. Not suited at all to current speed of game and would offer less to the squad than just upgrading the next junior coming through.
To be fair, I heard all of that stuff before he played a role for the Cowboys in reaching their Grand Final. The bloke busted his **** for us yet has copped more **** than Croker from many fans, and that's saying a lot.

Signing him is not going to happen, but I really don't see him as any slower than half the names raised here. With the injuries we have, the team is lacking a bit of experience. Whoever we bring in only needs to be solid in defence and plug a hole for 20 odd minutes a game, not play a key role.

At least you'd know he wouldn't be overawed and would give it everything he's got. Safe pair of hands too.

Raiders666 · Post by **Raiders666** » July 11, 2020, 6:17 pm

That's a no for me haha

Raiders666 · Post by **Raiders666** » July 11, 2020, 6:20 pm

Corey Oates would be worth a shot maybe

GreenMachine · Post by **GreenMachine** » July 11, 2020, 6:24 pm

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 5:09 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 4:33 pm
simo wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:18 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 11:06 am
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 12:16 am Not sure. Maybe people are noticing smaller locks and thinking Fensom might have suited.

Thing is, Murray and radley are mobile- Fenno was not quick. Radley hits like Gillmeister. Fenno didn't hurt anyone. He tackled himself into the ground but he wouldn't make any more yards now than he did then- Young has better footwork...

Fenno was a loyal and wholehearted player. But he's not any better suited today than he was 5 years ago. Surely he's hung them up and is enjoying life somewhere.
We've got a small bucket of money to work with this season. I'm not sure comparing our options to Radley, Murray or Gillmeister is a reasonable thing to do.

I was just thinking that Fensom is already in town and he offers experience and a bit of depth at the cap rate we have available. The criticism he cops on here was worse than the **** Croker gets.
No it wasnt. Fensom was my favourite player at a time but he declined rapidly. Not suited at all to current speed of game and would offer less to the squad than just upgrading the next junior coming through.
To be fair, I heard all of that stuff before he played a role for the Cowboys in reaching their Grand Final. The bloke busted his **** for us yet has copped more **** than Croker from many fans, and that's saying a lot.

Signing him is not going to happen, but I really don't see him as any slower than half the names raised here. With the injuries we have, the team is lacking a bit of experience. Whoever we bring in only needs to be solid in defence and plug a hole for 20 odd minutes a game, not play a key role.
At least you'd know he wouldn't be overawed and would give it everything he's got. Safe pair of hands too.

Not against this idea at all...
He’d fill a role we currently require.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 11, 2020, 6:51 pm

Raiders666 wrote: ↑July 11, 2020, 6:20 pm Corey Oates would be worth a shot maybe

Yep, mentioned before that I'd definitely look at Oates as a replacement for Bateman next season if he gets squeezed out of Brisbane, but there is no chance he's available to help us this season.

julian87 · Post by **julian87** » July 11, 2020, 8:37 pm

Don’t really rate the bloke that much at all but given the lack of middle forwards about maybe the club need to try and jag Nathan Peats for the remainder of this season.

bonehead · Post by **bonehead** » July 11, 2020, 8:50 pm

yep good call

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Botman · Post by **Botman** » July 11, 2020, 10:52 pm

We now have a massive need in the middle and hooker.
There is no way to answer both of those questions, but priority should be given to the hooker spot... Peats would be not ideal but what else is there?

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » July 11, 2020, 11:28 pm

I'm not sure Peats is a big upgrade on Starling when it's a 20 minute stint. Two middles is a must though with Havilii moving.

GreenMachine · Post by **GreenMachine** » July 12, 2020, 9:41 am

Hard pass on Peats.
In fact, forget any panic signings for 2020...focus on next season.
I’d be letting Bateman go now and pouring the recruitment energy into a middle to compliment Papalii long term.

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » July 12, 2020, 9:56 am

No to Peats...

I am happy with the 9 being shared with Havili and Starling (under the circumstances). As posted by others I think we can turn the Hodgson loss into a positive. Hodgo was overplaying his hand, kicking the ball away on the 3rd/4th tackle when we were rolling and limiting our halves time with the ball. Time for George to play both sides and own it... Jack to play ruthless running footy. We can still make the 8.

A prop or two brought in and Bateman back asap would help too.

Northern Raider · Post by **Northern Raider** » July 12, 2020, 10:05 am

Peats based on his TItans form, no way. Better off sticking with Havili and Starling. The Peats that’s played for the bunnies and got selected for NSW would be a fantastic replacement for Hodgo. Not sure that guys exists any more.

Seiffert82 · Post by **Seiffert82** » July 12, 2020, 11:02 am

Dusty wrote: ↑July 12, 2020, 9:56 am No to Peats...

I am happy with the 9 being shared with Havili and Starling (under the circumstances). As posted by others I think we can turn the Hodgson loss into a positive. Hodgo was overplaying his hand, kicking the ball away on the 3rd/4th tackle when we were rolling and limiting our halves time with the ball. Time for George to play both sides and own it... Jack to play ruthless running footy. We can still make the 8.

A prop or two brought in and Bateman back asap would help too.

Yep, I certainly hope the playing group doesn't finish the season with the same negativity a number of people are expressing here.

Ricky Stuart absolutely nailed it in the presser. That was the best game we've played this season. 3 tries apiece and every single one of Melbourne's points came off the back of a bad refereeing decision or an ounce of luck. Whereas we had 2 tries disallowed and got screwed over all night by the officials.

This is a hellova football team. With Hodgo out, I'm looking forward to a bunch of them stepping up and giving it everything they have.

BadnMean · Post by **BadnMean** » July 12, 2020, 11:56 am

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 12, 2020, 11:02 am
Dusty wrote: ↑July 12, 2020, 9:56 am No to Peats...

I am happy with the 9 being shared with Havili and Starling (under the circumstances). As posted by others I think we can turn the Hodgson loss into a positive. Hodgo was overplaying his hand, kicking the ball away on the 3rd/4th tackle when we were rolling and limiting our halves time with the ball. Time for George to play both sides and own it... Jack to play ruthless running footy. We can still make the 8.

A prop or two brought in and Bateman back asap would help too.
Yep, I certainly hope the playing group doesn't finish the season with the same negativity a number of people are expressing here.

Ricky Stuart absolutely nailed it in the presser. That was the best game we've played this season. 3 tries apiece and every single one of Melbourne's points came off the back of a bad refereeing decision or an ounce of luck. Whereas we had 2 tries disallowed and got screwed over all night by the officials.

This is a hellova football team. With Hodgo out, I'm looking forward to a bunch of them stepping up and giving it everything they have.

Yeah I was way more shattered after other losses this year than that one. Most of what I saw, I liked. Honestly if Smelliot doesn't have a 1 in 10 000 bad luck drop on his runaway try then we win that game.

I'd been hoping to see us look more dangerous in attack, I'd been hoping to see a defence without a clear weakness to target, I'd been hoping maybe our smaller size would allow us to run some good line speed revved up for longer. 5 linebreaks to 1 vs a very good team and I saw all those things.

It wasn't actually a bad performance. It lacked probably an ounce of luck (Elliot, maybe some refs just blow try there...) and a smidge of polish/confidence (CNK and Cotric literally gave them a try for free. Killer vs Storm). But every essential improvement had been made.

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