Oates would firmly fall into my "always bet on talent and upside" bucket
If the price was right, i'd be willing to sign him as a pure backrower, give him a full off season in the weight room to prepare for it and let's see how he goes
the guy was dominant all through the junior grades as a strike edge forward.
Peni Terepo could be an option.
Off contract at the end at the end of the year and unlikely to be re-signed by the Eels so they might be prepared to let him go now.
I know he's pretty loose on and off the field and I also don't really know too much about his stats re tackle effectiveness etc but gee he runs the ball hard and has to be worth a shot.
Botman wrote:Oates would firmly fall into my "always bet on talent and upside" bucket
If the price was right, i'd be willing to sign him as a pure backrower, give him a full off season in the weight room to prepare for it and let's see how he goes
the guy was dominant all through the junior grades as a strike edge forward.
I'm not completely sold on him, but i do agree with what you say talent wise. He has been making noise for a few years now about playing backrower and he is clearly miserable at the moment.
A coach taking a chance on him and giving him a red hot crack in his preferred position could really get the best out of him.
Oates is apparently on $500k a year for a winger who is pretty shaky and has never been given a shot at second row because he can’t defend multiple plays with questionable lateral movement and decision making in defense. If it were last years team with our outstanding defense which could cover up his issues and make the most out of his runs than yes but it’s a new year and new rules.
As mentioned before, I like Oates. In a Broncos team that plays like a bunch of entitled busteds, he always seems to run hard and work his ass off. Not sure about his defence on the edges - he could be a bit sketchy there, and his hands can be bog ordinary, but the guy has some talent and a good attitude.
In saying that, he's not what we need right now and the Broncos won't be picking up any freight on his contract next season (unless he takes up his option and the club still punts him).
If the club has cap space, we need to buy a middle forward.
Of the Broncos Joe Ofhengaue is one player I think we should look at as a Sia replacement. He would be relatively cheap and is entering what is usually the best period for a prop.
edwahu wrote: ↑July 8, 2020, 10:03 am
Of the Broncos Joe Ofhengaue is one player I think we should look at as a Sia replacement. He would be relatively cheap and is entering what is usually the best period for a prop.
Yeah good player, I think he has a contract that runs to 2022...
With the news that they are going to keep fafita, I'm hoping a few of their better players will be pushed out.
I'd take Oates as a backrower immediate, or Ofehengaue as a middle- neither are having great years but I've seen them both play very well last year.
We need a forward, stat. Oates is a big unit at 6'3" and 105kg. He's big enough to give a crack at 2nd row right now. Then we could have Young as a middle option.
If it was Ofahengaue, great, he goes into the middle and Young stays on edge.
We'd end up with better players picking the eyes out of the Broncos than picking up Parra's dregs. Only issue is if they would want to come to Canberra. Never used to be an issue for qlders coming down but the newer generation are used to being superstars.
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 8, 2020, 10:36 am
I'd take Oates as a backrower immediate, or Ofehengaue as a middle- neither are having great years but I've seen them both play very well last year.
We need a forward, stat. Oates is a big unit at 6'3" and 105kg. He's big enough to give a crack at 2nd row right now. Then we could have Young as a middle option.
If it was Ofahengaue, great, he goes into the middle and Young stays on edge.
We'd end up with better players picking the eyes out of the Broncos than picking up Parra's dregs. Only issue is if they would want to come to Canberra. Never used to be an issue for qlders coming down but the newer generation are used to being superstars.
edwahu wrote: ↑July 8, 2020, 10:03 am
Of the Broncos Joe Ofhengaue is one player I think we should look at as a Sia replacement. He would be relatively cheap and is entering what is usually the best period for a prop.
Very high on my list in terms of his ability and the realistic chances of us landing him. Good player but definitely not someone the Broncos will be dying to keep due to their glut.
BadnMean wrote: ↑July 8, 2020, 10:36 am
We'd end up with better players picking the eyes out of the Broncos than picking up Parra's dregs.
100%
There aren't many opportunities better than this when it comes to poaching talent from other clubs and there likely won't be another opportunity like this when it comes to the Broncos. Their squad is full of genuine talent and it's clear that they are going nowhere as a club any time soon. Parra aren't where they are on the ladder because their squad is stacked full of talent... picking up their dregs is a bad strategy imo.
Surely there has to be some noise here lads.. botman, cant you peer into to your crystal ball mate? i cannot accept that despite the ceo and recruitment mgr suggesting we are in the market that no one has the fantest idea where we are looking
Surely there has to be some noise here lads.. botman, cant you peer into to your crystal ball mate? i cannot accept that despite the ceo and recruitment mgr suggesting we are in the market that no one has the fantest idea where we are looking
FROG wrote:Surely there has to be some noise here lads.. botman, cant you peer into to your crystal ball mate? i cannot accept that despite the ceo and recruitment mgr suggesting we are in the market that no one has the fantest idea where we are looking
I’ve seen a couple of things we are going to try and get Corey Harawira-Naera but it’s social media you take it with a grain of salt
I can't see CHN being allowed to play in 2020, however he'd be a good option for 2021 and beyond. At only 25 years of age his best years are more than likely ahead of him. Dean Pay played him on the left edge but a Bulldogs mate of mine thinks he is better suited to the right which would be a straight swap for J. Bateman, assuming he outs Young for the position.
We do need a middle or two right now. Let's be realistic, we will struggle to attain anyone top-shelf. No club is going to release a top shelf player unless they're on the outer. And... we are unlikely to be able to fit a top-shelfer under this year's cap.
Some guys either out of contract in 2020 and/or not getting a look in now...
Joe Ofahengaue
Toby Rudolph (apparently he has cold feet about his Warriors deal)
Christian Welch
Jacob Saifiti
Herman Ese e'se
Josh King
Isaiah Papali'i
John Asiata
Peni Teripo
Jacob Host
Josh Kerr
Oliver Clark
Matthew Eisenhuth
Elijah Taylor
Dusty wrote:I can't see CHN being allowed to play in 2020, however he'd be a good option for 2021 and beyond. At only 25 years of age his best years are more than likely ahead of him. Dean Pay played him on the left edge but a Bulldogs mate of mine thinks he is better suited to the right which would be a straight swap for J. Bateman, assuming he outs Young for the position.
We do need a middle or two right now. Let's be realistic, we will struggle to attain anyone top-shelf. No club is going to release a top shelf player unless they're on the outer. And... we are unlikely to be able to fit a top-shelfer under this year's cap.
Some guys either out of contract in 2020 and/or not getting a look in now...
Joe Ofahengaue
Toby Rudolph (apparently he has cold feet about his Warriors deal)
Christian Welch
Jacob Saifiti
Herman Ese e'se
Josh King
Isaiah Papali'i
John Asiata
Peni Teripo
Jacob Host
Josh Kerr
Oliver Clark
Matthew Eisenhuth
Elijah Taylor
Ese'ese going good under O'Brien, Both Saifiti's in career bedt form too but I doubt they'll separate.
Dusty wrote: ↑July 9, 2020, 10:15 am
I can't see CHN being allowed to play in 2020, however he'd be a good option for 2021 and beyond. At only 25 years of age his best years are more than likely ahead of him. Dean Pay played him on the left edge but a Bulldogs mate of mine thinks he is better suited to the right which would be a straight swap for J. Bateman, assuming he outs Young for the position.
We do need a middle or two right now. Let's be realistic, we will struggle to attain anyone top-shelf. No club is going to release a top shelf player unless they're on the outer. And... we are unlikely to be able to fit a top-shelfer under this year's cap.
Some guys either out of contract in 2020 and/or not getting a look in now...
Joe Ofahengaue
Toby Rudolph (apparently he has cold feet about his Warriors deal)
Christian Welch
Jacob Saifiti
Herman Ese e'se
Josh King
Isaiah Papali'i
John Asiata
Peni Teripo
Jacob Host
Josh Kerr
Oliver Clark
Matthew Eisenhuth
Elijah Taylor
Toby Rudolph would be a good buy but he's getting cold feet because he wants to stay at Cronulla and they are working to keep him there.
Dusty wrote:I can't see CHN being allowed to play in 2020, however he'd be a good option for 2021 and beyond. At only 25 years of age his best years are more than likely ahead of him. Dean Pay played him on the left edge but a Bulldogs mate of mine thinks he is better suited to the right which would be a straight swap for J. Bateman, assuming he outs Young for the position.
We do need a middle or two right now. Let's be realistic, we will struggle to attain anyone top-shelf. No club is going to release a top shelf player unless they're on the outer. And... we are unlikely to be able to fit a top-shelfer under this year's cap.
Some guys either out of contract in 2020 and/or not getting a look in now...
Joe Ofahengaue
Toby Rudolph (apparently he has cold feet about his Warriors deal)
Christian Welch
Jacob Saifiti
Herman Ese e'se
Josh King
Isaiah Papali'i
John Asiata
Peni Teripo
Jacob Host
Josh Kerr
Oliver Clark
Matthew Eisenhuth
Elijah Taylor
Ese'ese going good under O'Brien, Both Saifiti's in career bedt form too but I doubt they'll separate.
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Yeah I tend to agree. A pack like this in 2021 would be good!
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 9, 2020, 3:07 pm
Ofahengaue, Saifiti or Ese e'se would be fantastic.
Doesn't help us this year though.
Agree with that list, also Papalii
I must admit, I haven't seen enough of him to comment, but he seems to put in the effort and is solid in defence, even when the Warriors are playing terribly.
I always feel a bit bad targeting good Warriors juniors though. A big part of me wants them to be genuinely successful.
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑July 9, 2020, 3:07 pm
Ofahengaue, Saifiti or Ese e'se would be fantastic.
Doesn't help us this year though.
Agree with that list, also Papalii
I must admit, I haven't seen enough of him to comment, but he seems to put in the effort and is solid in defence, even when the Warriors are playing terribly.
I always feel a bit bad targeting good Warriors juniors though. A big part of me wants them to be genuinely successful.
You shouldn’t feel bad...more chance they will be successful at other clubs! Lol