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gergreg wrote: July 5, 2020, 8:32 pm There was talk of Alex Johnson a while back and I would welcome him here. He has some serious pace and versatility.

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Bennett isn't sold on him for some reason. He a classy winger and can play fullback in a pinch. Worth looking at.
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gergreg wrote: July 5, 2020, 8:32 pm There was talk of Alex Johnson a while back and I would welcome him here. He has some serious pace and versatility.

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Bennett isn't sold on him for some reason. He a classy winger and can play fullback in a pinch. Worth looking at.
Especially if Cotric heads north.


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As always, it would depend on costs... But johsnon is a no from me

either you are bringing him as a winger, and in that circumstances i think you'd be paying a lot more for something i think Raps/Simo can provide at considerably less cost. He does has genuine speed and is a good finisher but he's not great at the other componets of wing play.

And whilst he flashed and i think he has talent as a potential fullback, and i would be VERY open to finding a ball playing fullback and moving CNK into that troublesome centre spot which is where im really starting to think CNK is best suited to be, the price tag would be too prohibitive to gamble on him there.

So i dont see why we'd make the move for AJ.
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I'm a fan of Cory Oates. Has problems with his handling on occasion though... Not exactly what we need more of right now.

Seems to go OK in the second row. He's definitely got the size and agility to make a go of it.
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I think the difference CNK makes to the defence is enormous and moving him would be crazy in my opinion. There are better ways to sort out attack.
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I'm still not sure why there's a push to move CNK. I find it a bit odd that the blame for our poor form has been focussed in his direction.

His last line of defence is top shelf and he makes more metres out of fullback than just about anyone in the comp. I'm not sure why people expected his passing game to miraculously develop 1/3 of the way into a disrupted season. Stuart's not going to move him.
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gangrenous wrote: July 5, 2020, 9:07 pm I think the difference CNK makes to the defence is enormous and moving him would be crazy in my opinion. There are better ways to sort out attack.
That's the rub... he's so good on that side of the ball
i think it was aksakjna that made a really great post on this, so the genesis of this idea belongs to him

But i thought a lot about it.
I think Wighton, on stoppages inside the attacking half (penalties, scrums, drop outs etc) should play the fullback role, with Williams and Wighton always on the open side of the field.

CNK should be stationed on the short side and work off the forwards, and run at short sides, with Hodgson cooking there with his creative ball playing out hooker and kicking behind the line for CNK (the fullback will always shade to Williams/Wighton opening this up) and allowing CNK to be a ball runner who is focused on breaking tackles. Rather than ball playing.
I think this gives up options both sides of the ruck, and yes we will be biased toward the open side, but that's the case with all teams. But that's what i'd be trying to do

It might be a disaster, but our attack right now is a diasater, and you cant do it in free play, you have to kind of set for it to allow the structural intergrity to be maintained but we have limtied methods of breaking through teams on the goal line.

I think that sort of change in attacking philosophy could work. But it's a huge change.
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I live in south sydney. All my mates support the rabbitohs and not a single one of them rates AJ. reckon he bombs heaps of tries... not a ball playing back as has been suggested. Id prefer we target someone else
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The earlier comment about Oates, was an absolute gun in 2nd row through high school, dominated 20s, then got stuck on the wing.

I remember the got to play 2nd row around origin time with players out and scored two tries and was killing it.

It may be too late in his career but the guy was a good 2nd rower

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Looks like Adam Elliot picked up a bad shoulder injury last night and may miss the season. I'd think that might kill any interest the club had.
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edwahu wrote: July 6, 2020, 7:34 am Looks like Adam Elliot picked up a bad shoulder injury last night and may miss the season. I'd think that might kill any interest the club had.
If that drives his value down it could be a good thing for whoever is still interested imo.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I saw someone mention Trey Mooney on social media. Does anyone know where he is at and if he's in the bubble and training with the full time squad?
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Bennyinthewest wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:13 am The earlier comment about Oates, was an absolute gun in 2nd row through high school, dominated 20s, then got stuck on the wing.

I remember the got to play 2nd row around origin time with players out and scored two tries and was killing it.

It may be too late in his career but the guy was a good 2nd rower

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I honestly reckon it's the best way to lure a top quality player for a relatively bargain price. Every time I've seen him get a run in the pack, he's played very well. There have been tons of large body wingers who've come in and made literally great 2nd rowers (Toots Snr, Luke Lewis, Wighton would/could be in another life).

He's always banging on about being a 2nd rower, just might work. We've always been a club that does better when getting creative with signings.
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would we be able to afford him if he wants to play 2nd row
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Oates would be a great pickup. Offer him the second row position next year and seal the deal Don!
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BadnMean wrote: July 6, 2020, 10:11 am
Bennyinthewest wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:13 am The earlier comment about Oates, was an absolute gun in 2nd row through high school, dominated 20s, then got stuck on the wing.

I remember the got to play 2nd row around origin time with players out and scored two tries and was killing it.

It may be too late in his career but the guy was a good 2nd rower

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I honestly reckon it's the best way to lure a top quality player for a relatively bargain price. Every time I've seen him get a run in the pack, he's played very well. There have been tons of large body wingers who've come in and made literally great 2nd rowers (Toots Snr, Luke Lewis, Wighton would/could be in another life).

He's always banging on about being a 2nd rower, just might work. We've always been a club that does better when getting creative with signings.
I can see that. its similar to how i think euan aitken would be much better off moving into the middle.
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Interesting part is that the problems Oates has on the wing would not be as big an issue in the 2nd row. I'm on board for this concept.
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I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
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Coastalraider wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:22 pm I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
There are a few Eels to look at.
Alvaro... no clue whats going on there, but he is a Tolman, big min type guy. Can fire up on occasion and be impactful.
Gower can plug a hole in the middle. Kinda a Lui type guy though.
Terepo, who re-signed there only 18 months ago, but is short of a run, and can be physical with and without the ball.
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Matt wrote: July 6, 2020, 3:05 pm
Coastalraider wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:22 pm I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
There are a few Eels to look at.
Alvaro... no clue whats going on there, but he is a Tolman, big min type guy. Can fire up on occasion and be impactful.
Gower can plug a hole in the middle. Kinda a Lui type guy though.
Terepo, who re-signed there only 18 months ago, but is short of a run, and can be physical with and without the ball.
ive wanted us to sign terepo before, and nothing has changed
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Matt wrote:
Coastalraider wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:22 pm I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
There are a few Eels to look at.
Alvaro... no clue whats going on there, but he is a Tolman, big min type guy. Can fire up on occasion and be impactful.
Gower can plug a hole in the middle. Kinda a Lui type guy though.
Terepo, who re-signed there only 18 months ago, but is short of a run, and can be physical with and without the ball.
Gower is also 34

If we could get Alvaro I'd be happy

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-TW- wrote:
Matt wrote:
Coastalraider wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:22 pm I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
There are a few Eels to look at.
Alvaro... no clue whats going on there, but he is a Tolman, big min type guy. Can fire up on occasion and be impactful.
Gower can plug a hole in the middle. Kinda a Lui type guy though.
Terepo, who re-signed there only 18 months ago, but is short of a run, and can be physical with and without the ball.
Gower is also 34

If we could get Alvaro I'd be happy

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Not a huge fan of those guys... if we're trying to replace JB,we need more than what Alvaro and Gower can give us

Terepo i have some mild interest in. He's got a little something in him.
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There’s a reason why the eels have become a better side without those players playing key roles.

Hard pass on all of them.
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GreenMachine wrote: July 6, 2020, 9:14 pm There’s a reason why the eels have become a better side without those players playing key roles.

Hard pass on all of them.
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They’d plug a hole as a loan deal as it currently stands though.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Northern Raider wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 4, 2020, 6:55 am
FROG wrote:What are peoples thoughts on isaiah Papali'i? Off contract still very young and loads of experience including games for the kiwis. Wouldnt come cheap but youd have to think weve got a charnze given he has a few mates with us and are in much better shape then the warriors. Thoughts

Also can you imagine having 2 papas in the front row!! What a sight to be seen
Only if they make an effort to pass to one another, just to hear Rabs have a stroke trying to call it.

The world missed a similar opportunity when Keary and Tuqiri were at Souths. They needed a set play off a scrum where Tuqiri played the ball, passed it to Keary who passed it to Tuqiri who taps back to Keary to score
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 6, 2020, 10:23 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: July 4, 2020, 6:55 am
FROG wrote:What are peoples thoughts on isaiah Papali'i? Off contract still very young and loads of experience including games for the kiwis. Wouldnt come cheap but youd have to think weve got a charnze given he has a few mates with us and are in much better shape then the warriors. Thoughts

Also can you imagine having 2 papas in the front row!! What a sight to be seen
Only if they make an effort to pass to one another, just to hear Rabs have a stroke trying to call it.

The world missed a similar opportunity when Keary and Tuqiri were at Souths. They needed a set play off a scrum where Tuqiri played the ball, passed it to Keary who passed it to Tuqiri who taps back to Keary to score
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simo wrote: July 6, 2020, 3:26 pm
Matt wrote: July 6, 2020, 3:05 pm
Coastalraider wrote: July 6, 2020, 1:22 pm I’m still thinking Taikangi is the type of player we should be looking at. I think he would make a seriously good second rower in the modern game, already has edge defence sorted, big/fast body with ball playing ability and utility value. And isn’t getting regular minutes at the Eels.

Sign him up Donny, worst case he just replaces Scott because Huddo owns the second row spot after this stint.
There are a few Eels to look at.
Alvaro... no clue whats going on there, but he is a Tolman, big min type guy. Can fire up on occasion and be impactful.
Gower can plug a hole in the middle. Kinda a Lui type guy though.
Terepo, who re-signed there only 18 months ago, but is short of a run, and can be physical with and without the ball.
ive wanted us to sign terepo before, and nothing has changed
I did too. I did that scouting thread just before he re-signed, so about 2yrs ago
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I was against signing Terepo as part of the top 17 but in current circumstances he would be a very good addition.
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on a short deal Manu Ma'u? he's at Hull

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I'd be looking at somebody from Manly for the right price, their forwards have proved over at least a couple years now that they work hard and aim up. Sironen, Thompson and Gosiewski all off contract in 2021 if we're looking at second rowers. I think Paseka would be a good pick up as a middle too - also off contract next year.
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bonehead wrote: July 7, 2020, 8:54 am on a short deal Manu Ma'u? he's at Hull

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bonehead wrote: July 7, 2020, 8:54 am on a short deal Manu Ma'u? he's at Hull

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Paseka is a fraud imo.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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