Curtis Scott signs with Canberra Raiders to end 2023
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Canberra Raiders close in on major signing coup with Melbourne Storm centre Curtis Scott
Sorry but the elephant in the room is why bring another centre in to create competition when it is shown that Croker is untouchable and we already have Cotric applying pressure on BJ’s position.
It sounds like another pointless recruitment. We need front rowers above all else at the moment.
It sounds like another pointless recruitment. We need front rowers above all else at the moment.
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I personally think it makes a lot of sense. Even of bj sticks around this year its likely to be his last. Scott has just turned 22 and arguably has his best 8 to 10 years in front of him. We have 2 of the hottest young front rowers in the comp with horse and guler as evidenced with them both playing in the u 23 australia side. The position most at risk is half, but we landed our guy. Time for him to deliver the goods
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Good player, think he has a decent future if he can get his attitude right. Depends how much we will pay him, but I suspect it won’t be overs for 2020 at least.
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I'm with you.Northern Raider wrote:Not sure where I stand with him. He's shown flashes of high class play. Struggles to back it up on a weekly basis. Also seems a bit of a loose unit.
If we sign him I hope he goes great. If not then so be it.
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What pointless recruitment has there been lately? Who knows what plans Sticky and Mulholland have and they have got it right with nearly every recruit and promoted player recently.LastRaider wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 7:24 am Sorry but the elephant in the room is why bring another centre in to create competition when it is shown that Croker is untouchable and we already have Cotric applying pressure on BJ’s position.
It sounds like another pointless recruitment. We need front rowers above all else at the moment.
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We lost Rapana and replace him with Curtis, how is it pointless recruiting?
Every squad needs depth.
Good signing if true.
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When we bought Bateman everybody was wondering where on earth we could even fit him in.
A bit the same with this guy.
I'll wait and see.
A bit the same with this guy.
I'll wait and see.
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Presuming the price is right, and it can get done in time for a full pre-season, I'm very bullish on this. It seems to me that a tuned-up right side of Leilua outside Scott has a lot to commend it. Opposition left edges would not fancy coming up against that pair and it might allow Simonsson to be a relatively full-time, specialised 14 in 2020 too, which I also think will be helpful.
The outyear roster management aspect of this signing would get my thumbs up too. I hope this comes off and it's not just the old manager's ploy to get a better deal at the Storm.
The outyear roster management aspect of this signing would get my thumbs up too. I hope this comes off and it's not just the old manager's ploy to get a better deal at the Storm.
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You're arguing with a person who was adamant Papalii was going to leave because of Sticky shifting him to the middle.edwahu wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 8:08 amWhat pointless recruitment has there been lately? Who knows what plans Sticky and Mulholland have and they have got it right with nearly every recruit and promoted player recently.LastRaider wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 7:24 am Sorry but the elephant in the room is why bring another centre in to create competition when it is shown that Croker is untouchable and we already have Cotric applying pressure on BJ’s position.
It sounds like another pointless recruitment. We need front rowers above all else at the moment.
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Let's not forget this bloke snotted Dylan Walker. For that act alone we should welcome him with open arms.
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So it looks like we’re getting Curtis Scott instead of Zac Lomax?
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I’m not sure which has the greater upside, but I’d probably conclude Lomax. The issue with Lomax is he’s not off contract until 2021. Scott is available for 2020 it seems. Would be nice to think we can manage turnover/evolution of the squad to get both.
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I think Scott has more upside than Lomax personally.
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I still think centre is likely his best position. However, the importance of wingers in the modern game probably outweighs that; and, as u said, he is now a rep wingerBotman wrote: ↑November 16, 2019, 8:21 pm
I pushed this about a year or so ago but i've gone 180 on it now. Why do you think it's time for Cotric to move to centre fulltime?
He's one of the best wingers in the game, compliments Croker extremely well defensively. Is playing for his state and country at as a winger and as a centre only FLASHED the ability to be as good a centre as he is a winger.
To me, i think Cotric would benefit greatly from just focusing soley on being the best damn winger he can be, which is of far greater importance, position wise, than centre these days.
Cotric is a fantastic winger, good enough to play for NSW and Aus... at centre, with time he might one day be good enough... to play for NSW and Aus?
I dunno, maybe keep him on the wing.
*unrelated to Curtis Scott, just my thoughts on trying to get Cotric to centre.
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Good point. Lomax is being discussed because it's now open season for players to begin contracts for 2021. Because of that clubs need to project their roster plans at least 2 seasons ahead. The story/rumour about Scott is due the Storm letting him walk now.
By that scale it could be more Lomax or Leilua rather than Lomax or Scott. Hypothetically we could pick up Scott for 2020 as a replacement for Rapana. Lomax in 2021 would suggest BJ won't be renewed beyond his current deal. At least not in the immediate term.
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It seems Smith is getting on the wrong side of plenty of Storms young talentgergreg wrote: ↑November 16, 2019, 9:46 pmSome great points there.julian87 wrote:It's not just one reason but a few different things which makes me really not like it. I think he's a good player, but like most young Storm players, very over rated early in his career.
- Centre has definitely become the least important position in rugby league. You still want good players there but I think it's pretty clear you don't want to spend an excessive amount of salary cap there. I think it was more coincidence that the 2 grand finalists this year had the 2 best centre combos. The forward packs and certain aspects of each teams' spine made them 1 and 2 primarily IMO.
- Leilua to Scott is a definite downgrade for mine. If it is also a significant downgrade cap wise that's a fair trade off, if not then it's risky.
- Cotric had an up and down season. But I think he is a better player than Scott and although his time at right centre this year seemed patchy I think it is his best position down the track. Scott seems a rigid centre and with Croker, (Leilua) and Cotric (plus Kris and Oldfield as reserves) we don't need that IMO. I feel like this move could hem Cotric in as winger when it's time for him to move to the centres full time.
- I doubt Curtis Scott would be breaking away from Melbourne to take unders at Canberra. If he is go for it but he'd command decent dollars elsewhere. I simply think salary cap wise it would make more sense for a cheaper roll of the dice to fill the outside back quota and filter cap money elsewhere in the squad.
- This is a gross generalisation but signing players from Melbourne has generally produced let down after let down. They pretty much keep who they want. Blair, White, King, Hoffman, Proctor, Widdop to an extent, Glasby, Jacks and probably plenty of others have ended up as overpaid salary cap problems for their new clubs. Inglis and Cronk are exceptions but they're possible future immortals so I don't know if you count that. If they want Scott gone there'd be a pretty good reason for it considering they're losing Chambers as well.
I keep coming back to BJs injury. IMO at the start of last year he was the best centre in the game, and despite the injury he came back strongly. But... he was shopped around and it appears as if there are no takers. Not one club is prepared to take the risk despite his great form.
Scott is the insurance policy, and there is plenty of potential there. I think he had a falling out with Smith more than Bellamy or the club itself.
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Great postFROG wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 7:35 am I personally think it makes a lot of sense. Even of bj sticks around this year its likely to be his last. Scott has just turned 22 and arguably has his best 8 to 10 years in front of him. We have 2 of the hottest young front rowers in the comp with horse and guler as evidenced with them both playing in the u 23 australia side. The position most at risk is half, but we landed our guy. Time for him to deliver the goods
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edwahu wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 8:08 amWhat pointless recruitment has there been lately? Who knows what plans Sticky and Mulholland have and they have got it right with nearly every recruit and promoted player recently.LastRaider wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 7:24 am Sorry but the elephant in the room is why bring another centre in to create competition when it is shown that Croker is untouchable and we already have Cotric applying pressure on BJ’s position.
It sounds like another pointless recruitment. We need front rowers above all else at the moment.
exactly, how people keep doubting the club just shows how silly they are, we just came off a grand final appearance but yeah, lets panic over every signing we still make
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Settle down Matt..it wasn't that great !!Matt wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 12:52 pmGreat postFROG wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 7:35 am I personally think it makes a lot of sense. Even of bj sticks around this year its likely to be his last. Scott has just turned 22 and arguably has his best 8 to 10 years in front of him. We have 2 of the hottest young front rowers in the comp with horse and guler as evidenced with them both playing in the u 23 australia side. The position most at risk is half, but we landed our guy. Time for him to deliver the goods
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Clarkey saying this signing is done on his FB page.
Then adds speculation that BJ is gone
Then adds speculation that BJ is gone
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Putting Leilua outside Scott would be insanity.Pilz wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 11:58 am Presuming the price is right, and it can get done in time for a full pre-season, I'm very bullish on this. It seems to me that a tuned-up right side of Leilua outside Scott has a lot to commend it. Opposition left edges would not fancy coming up against that pair and it might allow Simonsson to be a relatively full-time, specialised 14 in 2020 too, which I also think will be helpful.
The outyear roster management aspect of this signing would get my thumbs up too. I hope this comes off and it's not just the old manager's ploy to get a better deal at the Storm.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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He seems like a 16 yr old nobody from what I’ve read on that page tbh.
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How dare you.
Have a little respect for
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Clarkey.
Have a little respect for
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Clarkey.
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What the hell does the former Australian cricket captain know about Raiders recruitment?
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Yeah, I genuinely hope Cotric can have a full season on the wing again, outside Croker. He's so important for us in those kick returns and in that defensive combo on the left.Botman wrote: ↑November 16, 2019, 8:21 pm
I pushed this about a year or so ago but i've gone 180 on it now. Why do you think it's time for Cotric to move to centre fulltime?
He's one of the best wingers in the game, compliments Croker extremely well defensively. Is playing for his state and country at as a winger and as a centre only FLASHED the ability to be as good a centre as he is a winger.
To me, i think Cotric would benefit greatly from just focusing soley on being the best damn winger he can be, which is of far greater importance, position wise, than centre these days.
Cotric is a fantastic winger, good enough to play for NSW and Aus... at centre, with time he might one day be good enough... to play for NSW and Aus?
I dunno, maybe keep him on the wing.
*unrelated to Curtis Scott, just my thoughts on trying to get Cotric to centre.
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Leilua is not playing outside Curtis Scott.Pilz wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 11:58 am Presuming the price is right, and it can get done in time for a full pre-season, I'm very bullish on this. It seems to me that a tuned-up right side of Leilua outside Scott has a lot to commend it. Opposition left edges would not fancy coming up against that pair and it might allow Simonsson to be a relatively full-time, specialised 14 in 2020 too, which I also think will be helpful.
The outyear roster management aspect of this signing would get my thumbs up too. I hope this comes off and it's not just the old manager's ploy to get a better deal at the Storm.
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Um, didn't he also then belt a Rebels player off-field? I'm a tad concerned.Sydney_Raider wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 12:30 pm Let's not forget this bloke snotted Dylan Walker. For that act alone we should welcome him with open arms.
My immediate response to this was: with what money? This guy won't come cheap.
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His last contract with Storm reported to be $1.5m over 3 years. Early release be the same, less or more? I imagine club recruitment teams would have better insight into his "off field issues" and I'd say that could impact his value.raiderskater wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 3:28 pmUm, didn't he also then belt a Rebels player off-field? I'm a tad concerned.Sydney_Raider wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 12:30 pm Let's not forget this bloke snotted Dylan Walker. For that act alone we should welcome him with open arms.
My immediate response to this was: with what money? This guy won't come cheap.
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He comes from the the Storm system and has won a premiership. He could turn out to be a better signing than Loxmax and hopefully cheaper.
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haha yeah, look he's obviously doing well for his thing and good luck to him... and i do think this is absolutely happening... so maybe he does have inside info. But yeah, im not super into Clarkey and his scoops
At this point it feels like reporting taxes are mandatory.
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His page has a lot of rubbish, and stuff for stuffs sake, but when he says this kinda thing, it tends to be right.Botman wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 6:25 pmhaha yeah, look he's obviously doing well for his thing and good luck to him... and i do think this is absolutely happening... so maybe he does have inside info. But yeah, im not super into Clarkey and his scoops
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Christ these are the 2 biggest non events in determining if a player is any good.
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So he played left centre in 17 and 18? Chambers was at right centre until Mitchell turned his career upside down.
How has nobody suggested Croker to wing yet?
How has nobody suggested Croker to wing yet?
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Winter is coming.Roger Kenworthy wrote: ↑November 17, 2019, 8:23 pm So he played left centre in 17 and 18? Chambers was at right centre until Mitchell turned his career upside down.
How has nobody suggested Croker to wing yet?