We need to start strong and set ourselves in the top 4 again. The good teams don’t set them a hole to have to dig out of. They start strong, dip in the middle, then ramp back up to finals.yurithe1 wrote:Let me say it now though: we are crap at starting seasons and I'm not going to read too much into what happens for the first three rounds unless the attitude does turn out to be **** or we still have with carry-over injuries from the rep games.
Will next year be different to 2016
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Re: Will next year be different to 2016
I think most people have nailed it.
If we can maintain our standard in defence we will improve. I believe we can actually improve in defence, with a more settled lineup and experience from Bateman, Horsburgh and Guler who all gave away a number of cheap penalties through the season but improved as time went on. George Williams is the only big question mark.
In 2016 our attack relied on the Leilua and Rapana show, as well as Hodgson surprising the comp and Cotric's excellent work out of dummy half. This year we saw a bit of ad-lib stuff from Bateman early (the surprise element) and Wighton did a power of work running from 5/8. However we looked clunky at times as CNK was new to the spine and our halves/hooker combo was all over the shop early.
Next year I expect a more cohesive structure in attack, with G Williams providing some flair. We still won't have a dominant halfback, so Hodgson is going to have to develop a good balance between him, Wighton and Williams calling the plays. CNK will almost undoubtedly develop his ball playing but I expect Bateman will have less impact with the ball. I expect Cotric to improve, although he will have a busy off-season so may be a bit flat to start the year.
It'll be different, but our foundations for success are clearly better than they were in 2016. The attitude of much of the playing group in 2017 was ****house. Boyd, Paulo, Leilua, Austin, and even Wighton... so bad. That won't happen again.
If we can maintain our standard in defence we will improve. I believe we can actually improve in defence, with a more settled lineup and experience from Bateman, Horsburgh and Guler who all gave away a number of cheap penalties through the season but improved as time went on. George Williams is the only big question mark.
In 2016 our attack relied on the Leilua and Rapana show, as well as Hodgson surprising the comp and Cotric's excellent work out of dummy half. This year we saw a bit of ad-lib stuff from Bateman early (the surprise element) and Wighton did a power of work running from 5/8. However we looked clunky at times as CNK was new to the spine and our halves/hooker combo was all over the shop early.
Next year I expect a more cohesive structure in attack, with G Williams providing some flair. We still won't have a dominant halfback, so Hodgson is going to have to develop a good balance between him, Wighton and Williams calling the plays. CNK will almost undoubtedly develop his ball playing but I expect Bateman will have less impact with the ball. I expect Cotric to improve, although he will have a busy off-season so may be a bit flat to start the year.
It'll be different, but our foundations for success are clearly better than they were in 2016. The attitude of much of the playing group in 2017 was ****house. Boyd, Paulo, Leilua, Austin, and even Wighton... so bad. That won't happen again.
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Re: Will next year be different to 2016
It’s hard to believe at the start of this season we were debating whether we had the worst spine in the competition.
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Re: Will next year be different to 2016
Your point stands as the approach was pretty much the same for 2017 and 18 as well. But Cotric only debuted in 17.Seiffert82 wrote: In 2016 our attack relied on the Leilua and Rapana show, as well as Hodgson surprising the comp and Cotric's excellent work out of dummy half.
I understand if you’ve blocked 2016 Edrick Lee from your memory.
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Ahh yeah, good point! It was that transition into 2017 wasn't it. It's all a blur.gangrenous wrote: ↑October 9, 2019, 6:53 pmYour point stands as the approach was pretty much the same for 2017 and 18 as well. But Cotric only debuted in 17.Seiffert82 wrote: In 2016 our attack relied on the Leilua and Rapana show, as well as Hodgson surprising the comp and Cotric's excellent work out of dummy half.
I understand if you’ve blocked 2016 Edrick Lee from your memory.
Edrick Lee indeed.
Re: Will next year be different to 2016
I think we will remain a top 4 side. As noted above - our culture, accountability, and attitude has improved out of sight. This is readily seen in defence. And culture starts at the top. It was mentioned above that Ricky has changed the way he speaks (which reflects thinking). The sports psych may have had some impact, but imo the shake up to the coaching group would have been just as or more important. And McFadden was the big change there. I suspect he has been an excellent addition (and one we should keep around for a while).