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The Rickman wrote: October 1, 2019, 4:30 pm
Azza wrote: October 1, 2019, 4:25 pm
The Rickman wrote: October 1, 2019, 4:12 pm We're going to win this, I honestly can't see how we don't.
Do elaborate.
I just looked at those two lineups and thought "we've got this."

Banana head.
I love you. Idiot.

But seriously, putting forth a cogent argument as to why it's such a certainty in your googly eyes would be helpful in understanding what goes on in that turnip head of yours.
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We are exActly where we want to be.

If We get a little bit more ball, our attack clicks and we will spring the upset and send us all into absolute dreamland.
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We'll probably need to chance our arm with some 2016-2018 Raiderball action at times, give the fowl a few looks they'll not have expected...
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Yeah I'm definitely expecting the unexpected from the team. We need to surprise the Rooters early.
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I'd have Sutton in for Lui... but that's probably just me!
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The fact that we he only been beaten by more than 6 points this year gives me great hope in this game..The biggest worry for mine lies in the battle of the halves.
Let's hope they can find some composure this week because we are going to need it...
The defense is what has got us this far but our attack has been clunky as all hell and most our tries have been very lucky. Just hope our luck continues.
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A Canberra Raiders team list Tuesday in October !!

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3rd Battalion Royal Australian Regiment..Old Faithful
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Azza wrote: October 1, 2019, 4:49 pm Yeah I'm definitely expecting the unexpected from the team. We need to surprise the Rooters early.
I'd say Ricky's all over it. Melbourne do the conventional attack thing with more consistency than most throughout games and weren't able to cause Easts much trouble. Bit of Leipana madness and the like will do nicely!
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Hypothetical time. We get an injury in the halves or hooker. Who goes where?
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I think the answer to both questions is Bateman. Tapine moves to the edge, with the three on the bench covering the middle.
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Northern Raider wrote: October 1, 2019, 5:32 pm Hypothetical time. We get an injury in the halves or hooker. Who goes where?
****, please think positive, now Hodgo's got a virus. Thanks.
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Northern Raider wrote:Hypothetical time. We get an injury in the halves or hooker. Who goes where?
I reckon Bateman covers either

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Bateman would be the logical one. We've played Whitehead in the halves previously and he went OK. Either could slot in there if Sezer or Wighton went down.

We got pretty close to seeing it happen last week. Hodgo must have been close to going for a HIA then hurt himself stopping the Walker try. We also saw Jack go down with what looked like a popped shoulder at first.

It's not a great situation either way. One of the reasons I like Havili on the bench.
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I wouldn't be suprised to see two multi positional players (e.g. a guy who can play centre and edge forward well, or a guy who plays both hooker and halves) start to be used on the bench by teams from next year onwards if they have them, given the increasing impact the HIA rules have had.
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I think that is our strongest team and the chooks are at full strength bar friend who still could play. That would be a risk given how little football he has had this year.

On paper they are stronger in the spine but not by a massive amount. Tedesco is the best fullback in the game so doesn’t matter how good CNK has been going. Hodgson is a clear winner and Cronk is easily the better half but I reckon Wighton and Keary even each other out.

Both packs are strong and either could get on top on the day.

Outside backs are very different. Both have X factor but in different ways and it will come down to whoever uses there’s better.

I can see this going right down to the wire and wouldn’t be surprised if there are less than 20 pints in the whole game. The ruck will be slow which makes attack hard for both teams.

There’s at least a dozen players across the teams that could win this one for either team and t will depend who stands up on the day. I’m nervous as hell already, I’ll be a jibbering heap by kick off!
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afgtnk wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:11 pm I wouldn't be suprised to see two multi positional players (e.g. a guy who can play centre and edge forward well, or a guy who plays both hooker and halves) start to be used on the bench by teams from next year onwards if they have them, given the increasing impact the HIA rules have had.
Agree. The approach of 4 middles rotating is almost dead now. Need at least one multidimensional player on the bench.

Roosters have Aubusson with Crichton covering him on the bench. Radley gives them cover at dummy half. We don't have the same versatility.
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pickles wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:13 pm I think that is our strongest team and the chooks are at full strength bar friend who still could play. That would be a risk given how little football he has had this year.

On paper they are stronger in the spine but not by a massive amount. Tedesco is the best fullback in the game so doesn’t matter how good CNK has been going. Hodgson is a clear winner and Cronk is easily the better half but I reckon Wighton and Keary even each other out.

Both packs are strong and either could get on top on the day.

Outside backs are very different. Both have X factor but in different ways and it will come down to whoever uses there’s better.

I can see this going right down to the wire and wouldn’t be surprised if there are less than 20 pints in the whole game. The ruck will be slow which makes attack hard for both teams.

There’s at least a dozen players across the teams that could win this one for either team and t will depend who stands up on the day. I’m nervous as hell already, I’ll be a jibbering heap by kick off!
There's a genuine reason we're $3.30 outsiders. Roosters have a better team and the GF experience. Not saying we can't beat them. It's just going to be a very tough job.
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Northern Raider wrote:
afgtnk wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:11 pm I wouldn't be suprised to see two multi positional players (e.g. a guy who can play centre and edge forward well, or a guy who plays both hooker and halves) start to be used on the bench by teams from next year onwards if they have them, given the increasing impact the HIA rules have had.
Agree. The approach of 4 middles rotating is almost dead now. Need at least one multidimensional player on the bench.

Roosters have Aubusson with Crichton covering him on the bench. Radley gives them cover at dummy half. We don't have the same versatility.
That’s why I’d go with Simonsson/Havili/Guler/Horsburgh

You can cover all positions, cover them all very well (not just stopgaps) and you still have three running forwards.
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The Rickman wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:36 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
afgtnk wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:11 pm I wouldn't be suprised to see two multi positional players (e.g. a guy who can play centre and edge forward well, or a guy who plays both hooker and halves) start to be used on the bench by teams from next year onwards if they have them, given the increasing impact the HIA rules have had.
Agree. The approach of 4 middles rotating is almost dead now. Need at least one multidimensional player on the bench.

Roosters have Aubusson with Crichton covering him on the bench. Radley gives them cover at dummy half. We don't have the same versatility.
That’s why I’d go with Simonsson/Havili/Guler/Horsburgh

You can cover all positions, cover them all very well (not just stopgaps) and you still have three running forwards.
Yep. With Paps playing longer minutes we can use Havili during his short spell and it also gives us cover at hooker, which in turn gives us cover for the halves as Hodgo can shift there. Horse and Guler for the middle rotation. Tapine can move to the edge of needed.
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The Rickman wrote: October 1, 2019, 4:12 pm We're going to win this, I honestly can't see how we don't.
Praise be to Nickmanism.

I’m on board - come join me :welcome:
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pickles wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:13 pm I think that is our strongest team and the chooks are at full strength bar friend who still could play. That would be a risk given how little football he has had this year.

On paper they are stronger in the spine but not by a massive amount. Tedesco is the best fullback in the game so doesn’t matter how good CNK has been going. Hodgson is a clear winner and Cronk is easily the better half but I reckon Wighton and Keary even each other out.

Both packs are strong and either could get on top on the day.

Outside backs are very different. Both have X factor but in different ways and it will come down to whoever uses there’s better.

I can see this going right down to the wire and wouldn’t be surprised if there are less than 20 pints in the whole game. The ruck will be slow which makes attack hard for both teams.

There’s at least a dozen players across the teams that could win this one for either team and t will depend who stands up on the day. I’m nervous as hell already, I’ll be a jibbering heap by kick off!
There will be more than 20 pints here if we snare the premiership!
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greeneyed wrote: October 1, 2019, 5:18 pm I'd have Sutton in for Lui... but that's probably just me!
I'd have Sutton in my 17 too but for Guler.
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greeneyed wrote: October 1, 2019, 5:18 pm I'd have Sutton in for Lui... but that's probably just me!
Yeah that’s the only changed I’d consider making
And I’m not sure I would make it

That’s a good team, it can win this game.

Why the **** not us?
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Kryptonite wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:58 pm
pickles wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:13 pm I think that is our strongest team and the chooks are at full strength bar friend who still could play. That would be a risk given how little football he has had this year.

On paper they are stronger in the spine but not by a massive amount. Tedesco is the best fullback in the game so doesn’t matter how good CNK has been going. Hodgson is a clear winner and Cronk is easily the better half but I reckon Wighton and Keary even each other out.

Both packs are strong and either could get on top on the day.

Outside backs are very different. Both have X factor but in different ways and it will come down to whoever uses there’s better.

I can see this going right down to the wire and wouldn’t be surprised if there are less than 20 pints in the whole game. The ruck will be slow which makes attack hard for both teams.

There’s at least a dozen players across the teams that could win this one for either team and t will depend who stands up on the day. I’m nervous as hell already, I’ll be a jibbering heap by kick off!
There will be more than 20 pints here if we snare the premiership!
Hear, hear! 🍻
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The Rickman wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:36 pm
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afgtnk wrote: October 1, 2019, 6:11 pm I wouldn't be suprised to see two multi positional players (e.g. a guy who can play centre and edge forward well, or a guy who plays both hooker and halves) start to be used on the bench by teams from next year onwards if they have them, given the increasing impact the HIA rules have had.
Agree. The approach of 4 middles rotating is almost dead now. Need at least one multidimensional player on the bench.

Roosters have Aubusson with Crichton covering him on the bench. Radley gives them cover at dummy half. We don't have the same versatility.
That’s why I’d go with Simonsson/Havili/Guler/Horsburgh

You can cover all positions, cover them all very well (not just stopgaps) and you still have three running forwards.
I'm not going to argue with it and i'd take it. It would be so harsh on Lui but you get this far and you have to make those calls to win. I think Sticky may want Lui there with Horse to take on Taukeiaho, he won't want to leave that to just the rookies as it is a massive risk. There is a fair suspicion in my mind that Ricky has been either nursing Sutton or holding him back for that clash with Taukeiaho and trusted Guler to get us this far. I understand that this may sound absurd because obviously you play your best team to get as far as you can, but Guler is more suited to some games than Sutton at this stage and vice versa.

One thing i've been fixated on since magic round when we played them was what was the plan that day for Simonsson before Rapana did his knee? There is something there that we've been looking at and I think we've trained for scenarios where Hodgo isn't the dummy half and neither is Havili. Or Hodgson is either sharing or bringing Bailey into the tired forwards with fast footwork. There has always been more to the Simonsson #14 than covering outside backs, because you look at our back row and we're probably the most equipped team in the comp to chuck a 2nd rower in the centres and shift the 3/4 I wide and go on like normal.

We need something different, and I look forward to seeing if we just turn up with the same plan or we've been planning to beat the benchmark all season.

My absolute #1 thing I want us to show attention to is pressuring their kick, and helping our kickers have the best path to win some ground. It is extremely hard against them to win this battle so anything we can do to bring it back to close to parity is a big deal.

I agree with Rooster being favourites and they should be but i'm not going there contemplating a loss. I'm expecting a win and i'm prepared for the mental fallout if that doesn't happen but i'll deal with that then and i'm not even entertaining it this week. I'm enjoying it so much and I give us a chance.
We continue to **** about with blokes that are part of some fraternity. It's infuriating.
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How’s bulldog Richie saying if we win it will be the biggest upset since Balmain won 50 years ago.... ouch!

I reckon we are a huge show!
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Absolute bulldust, and if you consider our clashes this year and we're expected to have the crowd I don't think that's anywhere near accurate but absolutely where we want to be leading into Sunday.
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Ugly story breaking about Bateman’s contract talks. Seems his new agent is doing him no favours! Hopefully the headlines won’t be a distraction.
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Bateman! OMG the **** has hit social media like a bombshell
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Re: 2019 Grand Final V Roosters: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

Post by 1992 »

You couldn't wait a week, Johnny?
$400, 000 not enough to play footy, Johnny?

Watch him sign for Roosters....
WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN
Raiders666
Ruben Wiki
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Re: 2019 Grand Final V Roosters: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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They said he is sponsored by one of Uncle Nicks
Car yards... Not good
RedRaider
Laurie Daley
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Re: 2019 Grand Final V Roosters: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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If I was in the Chooks brains trust I would target Hodgo with and without the ball. He is the key to our play making. For this reason I think having Havili in the side is essential. No he doesn't have the vision of Hodgo, but he is a very good passer of the football to the left or right, he will go from dummy half and make ground, as a backrower he will make ground. Defensively he is FG quality. I think he is both a FG quality hooker and back rower. Having him in the side means we don't have to shuffle JB away from his best spot. Havili has played International football so is more used to pressure. I would have him in for Guler. Guler has size but is inexperienced. We have moved away from size to our benefit this year. Why would we want to change that in a Grand Final?? Red Said.
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John Ferguson
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Re: 2019 Grand Final V Roosters: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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This may be the holy grail of smokescreens

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