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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
10%
Raiders 1-12
8
40%
Storm 1-12
5
25%
Storm 13+
5
25%
 
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Post by Drandyt » September 9, 2019, 8:14 pm

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interesting....

whoops, not skilled at this interweb stuff...

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Post by dubby » September 9, 2019, 8:20 pm

Wow, Nathan Brown talking us up on NRL360

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Post by Neeeegz » September 9, 2019, 9:09 pm

What are the odds of Ricky naming Hudson on the bench tomorrow ?

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Post by Neeeegz » September 9, 2019, 9:16 pm

28-0 wasn't it last time ?

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Post by Azza » September 9, 2019, 9:35 pm

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Well, I do hope we win. We owe them after that numpty Edrick Lee dropped one with the line wide open in 2016, in a horrible repeat of Bulgarelli-gate.
We were still going to need to score again after Edrick dropped it. Butterfly effect etc... Boogs just dropped the match, although his was a tougher take as it kicked away from him a little.
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Post by greeneyed » September 10, 2019, 12:13 am

Canberra Raiders co-captain Jarrod Croker feels more at home this time

Jarrod Croker was at the 2019 finals launch on Monday, ahead of their qualifying final against the Melbourne Storm in Melbourne on Saturday... and he feels more at home than in 2016.

"I guess I do [feel more at home] a bit, it's a bit more composed. It's a bit like our whole season," Croker said. "It's just been composed and feels like we belong up in that top four.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

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Post by Seiffert82 » September 10, 2019, 2:11 am

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In my opinion Hodgo stuck to the gameplan all year and it got us to 4th. Hodgo not sticking to your game plan isn't the same thing as him not sticking to the teams.
Yes, its obviously this lol

He is doing what Stick wants him to do. Its been quite successful this year.
Well, if the game plan is for him to hog the ball it absolutely sucks, because we look terrible in attack when he does, whereas we look much more balanced and effective when the halves get early ball.

I actually don't think the game plan is for Hodgson to dominate the play out of dummy half with ridiculous trick shots and early attacking kicks given the coach spent much of the past two years publicly imploring Sezer to take control of the team in attack.

Our defence got us to 4th this season. Our attack has been as clunky as I've ever seen it.

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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 6:32 am

greeneyed wrote:
September 10, 2019, 12:13 am
Canberra Raiders co-captain Jarrod Croker feels more at home this time

Jarrod Croker was at the 2019 finals launch on Monday, ahead of their qualifying final against the Melbourne Storm in Melbourne on Saturday... and he feels more at home than in 2016.

"I guess I do [feel more at home] a bit, it's a bit more composed. It's a bit like our whole season," Croker said. "It's just been composed and feels like we belong up in that top four.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
Yeah, this is how I've felt about this whole season to be honest and it's a big reason why I think we can win it.
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 6:34 am

Seiffert82 wrote:
September 10, 2019, 2:11 am
Pete Cash wrote:
September 8, 2019, 6:45 pm
edwahu wrote:
September 8, 2019, 6:08 pm
In my opinion Hodgo stuck to the gameplan all year and it got us to 4th. Hodgo not sticking to your game plan isn't the same thing as him not sticking to the teams.
Yes, its obviously this lol

He is doing what Stick wants him to do. Its been quite successful this year.
Well, if the game plan is for him to hog the ball it absolutely sucks, because we look terrible in attack when he does, whereas we look much more balanced and effective when the halves get early ball.

I actually don't think the game plan is for Hodgson to dominate the play out of dummy half with ridiculous trick shots and early attacking kicks given the coach spent much of the past two years publicly imploring Sezer to take control of the team in attack.

Our defence got us to 4th this season. Our attack has been as clunky as I've ever seen it.
Agreed. I absolutely LOVE Hodgo but my biggest criticism with him is the amount of times on fourth or fifth that he has Sezer ready to receive the ball, looks at him, and then goes the other way. It's frustrating and I'm certain it frustrates Sezer too.

Particularly now that Sezer is starting to show some of his old form, he needs plenty of good, early ball in the red-zone.
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Post by TongueFTW » September 10, 2019, 7:14 am

In addition to their right side defence and potential weakness with no traditional halfback, their bench forwards (other than Brandon Smith) are not at the same level as their starters, particularly with no Welch. Horsburgh is important - he and Tapine would form a pretty solid prop rotation once the starters are off.

The way the Roosters played them in the GF last year is the way to go. It was the Roosters’ intensity in defence that won them that game - their line speed was phenomenal and they limited metres. Other than Cameron Smith, the Storm lack a huge long kicking game (Munster is OK but tends to go for height rather than distance). Smith can’t kick from dummy half when there is limited go forward and that leaves Hughes and Munster as their only options.

If we approach this game with intensity in defence and an expansive attitude in attack, we can give them a run.

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Post by DarkRaider » September 10, 2019, 8:20 am

Looking at the finals structure and taking turnarounds etc into account is it fair to assume that if we’re hosting a week 2 final (god forbid) it’ll be Saturday night?

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Post by simo » September 10, 2019, 8:28 am

I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
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Post by dubby » September 10, 2019, 9:01 am

Do what we did last time (without the sin bins).

Melbourne are beatable, but we're going to have to be at our absolute best.

Melbourne will be at a whole new level compared to last time.

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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 9:28 am

simo wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:28 am
I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
I say we take it one step further and completely ignore the referees altogether. They blow a penalty against us? Just don't even acknowledge it. They call a forward pass or a knock-on?? We just play on with the ball, completely disregard the call.

Just take the referees completely out of the game.
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 9:35 am

The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:28 am
simo wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:28 am
I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
I say we take it one step further and completely ignore the referees altogether. They blow a penalty against us? Just don't even acknowledge it. They call a forward pass or a knock-on?? We just play on with the ball, completely disregard the call.

Just take the referees completely out of the game.
While I agree it's easier said than done. Anybody who's played competitive sport knows how hard it is not to react if you think the refs are giving you the rough end of the pineapple. Wouldn't be too many examples in any sport at any level where an entire team being so ultra professional that they don't acknowledge the officials if they believe they've been wronged.
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 9:37 am

Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:35 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:28 am
simo wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:28 am
I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
I say we take it one step further and completely ignore the referees altogether. They blow a penalty against us? Just don't even acknowledge it. They call a forward pass or a knock-on?? We just play on with the ball, completely disregard the call.

Just take the referees completely out of the game.
While I agree it's easier said than done. Anybody who's played competitive sport knows how hard it is not to react if you think the refs are giving you the rough end of the pineapple. Wouldn't be too many examples in any sport at any level where an entire team being so ultra professional that they don't acknowledge the officials if they believe they've been wronged.
Pretty sure that's one of the biggest of the week so far, and there's already been some crackers.
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Post by simo » September 10, 2019, 9:39 am

Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:35 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:28 am
simo wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:28 am
I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
I say we take it one step further and completely ignore the referees altogether. They blow a penalty against us? Just don't even acknowledge it. They call a forward pass or a knock-on?? We just play on with the ball, completely disregard the call.

Just take the referees completely out of the game.
While I agree it's easier said than done. Anybody who's played competitive sport knows how hard it is not to react if you think the refs are giving you the rough end of the pineapple. Wouldn't be too many examples in any sport at any level where an entire team being so ultra professional that they don't acknowledge the officials if they believe they've been wronged.
No doubt. But you need to try and encourage a mentality that sees every call against you as a challenge. “Poor me” mentalities can never win
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 9:51 am

The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:37 am
Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:35 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:28 am
simo wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:28 am
I think the most important thing we can do is fight to play the ball. Work hard enough and let the refs call the penalties. You dont get them against melb by looking at the ref and asking for one.
I say we take it one step further and completely ignore the referees altogether. They blow a penalty against us? Just don't even acknowledge it. They call a forward pass or a knock-on?? We just play on with the ball, completely disregard the call.

Just take the referees completely out of the game.
While I agree it's easier said than done. Anybody who's played competitive sport knows how hard it is not to react if you think the refs are giving you the rough end of the pineapple. Wouldn't be too many examples in any sport at any level where an entire team being so ultra professional that they don't acknowledge the officials if they believe they've been wronged.
Pretty sure that's one of the biggest of the week so far, and there's already been some crackers.
Wait, what?

Ah ****. :x
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 9:56 am

Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 10:02 am

The Rickman wrote:
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Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
But shower day is Friday
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 10:03 am

Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:02 am
The Rickman wrote:
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Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
But shower day is Friday
Well, just sit in the corner for a while and contemplate where you're going in life.
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Post by Azza » September 10, 2019, 10:10 am

Storm by 35.

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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 10:12 am

Azza wrote:
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Storm by 35.
Muppet.
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 10:16 am

The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:03 am
Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:02 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:56 am
Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
But shower day is Friday
Well, just sit in the corner for a while and contemplate where you're going in life.
now thats a dark dark place
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 10:18 am

Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:16 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:03 am
Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:02 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:56 am
Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
But shower day is Friday
Well, just sit in the corner for a while and contemplate where you're going in life.
now thats a dark dark place
Oh nice, you're coming back to Rocky??
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 10:26 am

The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:18 am
Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:16 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:03 am
Northern Raider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 10:02 am
The Rickman wrote:
September 10, 2019, 9:56 am
Yeah, that's a bad one, NR. Might need to take a quick shower and cool off.
But shower day is Friday
Well, just sit in the corner for a while and contemplate where you're going in life.
now thats a dark dark place
Oh nice, you're coming back to Rocky??
I said dark, not desolate
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Post by Hazza » September 10, 2019, 12:05 pm

Azza wrote:
September 9, 2019, 9:35 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
September 9, 2019, 6:36 pm
Azza wrote:
September 9, 2019, 10:07 am
Well, I do hope we win. We owe them after that numpty Edrick Lee dropped one with the line wide open in 2016, in a horrible repeat of Bulgarelli-gate.
We were still going to need to score again after Edrick dropped it. Butterfly effect etc... Boogs just dropped the match, although his was a tougher take as it kicked away from him a little.
You're a numpty
People forget we were down by 8 when Edrick dropped that ball. Somehow it's developed in to this myth that we definitely would've won if that try was scored.

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Post by Azza » September 10, 2019, 12:06 pm

We definitely would have won if that try was scored.

Raiders by 12.

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Post by Peter » September 10, 2019, 1:54 pm

DarkRaider wrote:
September 10, 2019, 8:20 am
Looking at the finals structure and taking turnarounds etc into account is it fair to assume that if we’re hosting a week 2 final (god forbid) it’ll be Saturday night?
You’d assume so as we play the winner of Broncos/Eels who are playing Sunday. They’ll have a 6 day turnaround if they play the following Saturday.

I just noticed Josh Papalii is paying $81 for Clive Churchill medal. Some great value there.

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Post by GreenMachine » September 10, 2019, 2:10 pm

A couple of interesting points:

1. In most seasons, the GF winner has held an opposing team to nil during the regular season. We have done this 3 times this year and are the only team to do it.

2. Since the NRL came into existence, the GF winner has finished the regular season with a + differential over 100 points. Only the Storm, Roosters and Raiders are in this category.

3. Since the top 8 and finals construction under this current format, only teams in the top 4 have won the GF.

We are in this up to our eyeballs. I hope the team come out aggressive with line speed and are prepared to do the extra's on Saturday to get the win. Our defence has been key this year and were going to need our best defensive performance to get the win.

On the attack front, I also hope Hodgson simplifies his game (doesn't try to overplay) and allows our wider players more space when we have the ball.

There will be moments to run through the middle and finesse the ball in the ruck, and moments to give Sezer and Wighton space to provide to our back line.

We need his decision making to be spot on. I don't buy into the notion that Ricky wants him hogging the ball and distributing out wide when the defensive line is up in our face.

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Post by -PJ- » September 10, 2019, 2:19 pm

I'm expecting the boys to empty the tank.

And Bateman will have two weeks of ANGRY to unleash so I'm sure he'll go double maniac on Satd..

We will start as underdogs and outsiders away from home..and I'm lovin it !
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Post by The Rickman » September 10, 2019, 2:34 pm

-PJ- wrote:
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I'm expecting the boys to empty the tank.

And Bateman will have two weeks of ANGRY to unleash so I'm sure he'll go double maniac on Satd..

We will start as underdogs and outsiders away from home..and I'm lovin it !
We all know what it's like emptying the tank after two weeks off, right PJ??
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Post by Mickey_Raider » September 10, 2019, 2:51 pm

Anyone feeling a bit defeatist about our chances on Saturday - go back and watch the last 5 minutes of our win against the Storm 3 weeks ago. It will do you good, promise.
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Post by Northern Raider » September 10, 2019, 3:19 pm

Mickey_Raider wrote:
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Anyone feeling a bit defeatist about our chances on Saturday - go back and watch the last 5 minutes of our win against the Storm 3 weeks ago. It will do you good, promise.
Don't need to. That game is etched in my memory. They had every opportunity to blow us off the park and failed. Storm fans should be the ones concerned having to play Raiders instead of Bunnies.
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Post by greeneyed » September 10, 2019, 3:35 pm

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Canberra Raiders V Melbourne Storm
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The Canberra Raiders have named their squad for Saturday’s Qualifying Final against the Melbourne Storm at AAMI Park.

Six Raiders have been named to make their return to the side this week with Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Jordan Rapana, Joey Leilua, Sia Soliola, John Bateman and Joe Tapine all returning for the Green Machine.

Hudson Young has been named on the extended bench and will appear at the NRL Judiciary tonight.

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Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson (C)
10. Sia Soliola
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Bailey Simonsson
15. Dunamis Lui
16. Corey Horsburgh
17. Ryan Sutton

18. Sam Williams
19. Emre Guler
20. Siliva Havili
21. Hudson Young

Injury/Suspension

Michael Oldfield (Shoulder) Season
Brad Abbey (Knee) Season

Melbourne Storm

1. Ryan Papenhuyzen
2. Suliasi Vunivalu
3. Will Chambers
4. Justin Olam
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Cameron Munster
7. Jahrome Hughes
8. Jesse Bromwich
9. Cameron Smith
10. Nelson Asofa-Solomona
11. Felise Kaufusi
12. Kenneath Bromwich
13. Dale Finucane

14. Brandon Smith
15. Tui Kamikamica
16. Max King
17. Joe Stimson

18. Curtis Scott
19. Tino Faasuamaleaui
20. Brodie Croft
21. Tom Eisenhuth

Officials

Referees: Ashley Klein, Chris Sutton
Sideline Officials: Kasey Badger, Michael Wise
Video Referees: Steve Chiddy, Bryan Norrie

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