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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by sprintman » September 4, 2019, 3:03 pm

greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:47 pm
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
What's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.

What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
I’ll take their way every time.

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Billy Walker » September 4, 2019, 3:13 pm

sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 3:03 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:47 pm
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
What's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.

What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
I’ll take their way every time.
And when Australia’s population hits 327.8 million like the US, we will probably have the audience and economics for the US system to work here as well. But till then....

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by GreenMachine » September 4, 2019, 4:11 pm

greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:47 pm
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
What's being proposed isn't anything like the NFL in the USA. This is basically the resumption of a suburban Sydney competition, and guaranteeing the winner a spot in a Grand Final against teams that are playing in what is virtually a national competition. I think it'd be very tempting for the one town teams to set up an actual national competition and it'd be Super League 2. And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.

What's happened in the NFL is an accident of history, really, with competing leagues eventually marrying back up through the Super Bowl.
Bingo!
'Bee Sting Eyes' has a motive, and you called it out.
He wants a Sydney team playing in the GF every year.

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by FROG » September 4, 2019, 7:11 pm

FWIW I reckon west tigers should be relocated to perth. They would still play circa 10 to 12 games in sydney, and could come up with creative membership opportunities on that basis. They wouldn't even have tp change their name!

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Dr Zaius » September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm


greeneyed wrote:
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Cranky Old Man » September 4, 2019, 11:22 pm

One conference would have games spread from NZ to Melbourne, Brisbane, G Coast, Townsville, Newcastle and Canberra plus two other locations, probably Brisbane and Perth. The others would just need a bus pass.

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by greeneyed » September 4, 2019, 11:24 pm

Dr Zaius wrote:
September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm
greeneyed wrote:
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Dr Zaius » September 5, 2019, 6:06 am

greeneyed wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm
greeneyed wrote:
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.
I did actually and have clear recollection
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Beejay » September 5, 2019, 6:18 am

Great write up on expansion that you won’t get in the Papers

https://pythagonrl.com/2019/09/04/on-ex ... th-sydney/
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Billy Walker » September 5, 2019, 6:41 am

greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 11:24 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:
September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm
greeneyed wrote:
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm
greeneyed wrote:
September 3, 2019, 8:07 pm
Phil Gould’s bold two-conference plan for future of NRL

Phil Gould has proposed a radical two conference system of nine teams each, one based in Sydney, and one outside.

"There needs to be nine teams in Sydney and nine teams outside of Sydney. Play it as a regional competition in two-conferences and then perhaps you’ve got your Sydney grand final, your regional grand final and you meet for a super grand final at the end of the year."

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 00fcc436f0

What do people think of this? I think it is incredibly Sydney-centric, designed to guarantee a Sydney team a place in the Grand Final, even if they're not in the best two teams in the country. It no doubt panders to those people who yearn for a suburban Sydney competition. But it has no place in a National Rugby League.
Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.
Amen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by yurithe1 » September 5, 2019, 11:40 am

Billy Walker wrote:
September 5, 2019, 6:41 am
greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 11:24 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:
September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm
greeneyed wrote:
sprintman wrote:
September 4, 2019, 2:41 pm


Works well in the U.S. We ain’t ‘specIal’
And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.
Amen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.
All it took was for someone with money to get teams to jump ship. I still recall putting money in the bucket to save the Raiders because the NSWRL wanted to kick them out for salary cap breaches.

Best moment out of the Super League "war" was when Arko discovered that Kerry Packer had jumped ship as well and joined forces with Murdoch. :roflmao
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Billy Walker » September 5, 2019, 1:40 pm

yurithe1 wrote:
September 5, 2019, 11:40 am
Billy Walker wrote:
September 5, 2019, 6:41 am
greeneyed wrote:
September 4, 2019, 11:24 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:
September 4, 2019, 9:55 pm
greeneyed wrote:And, of course, the Sydney centric views that Gould holds were the very reason for Super League's emergence.
It was Sydneycentric views which sparked superleague? The year where four non-nsw teams were admitted to the comp, and the comp was rebranded from nsw rugby league to Australian rugby league? Righto.

I suppose it had nothing to do with one billionaire media mogul wanting the pay TV rights owned by another billionaire media mogul for his new pay TV network? Somebody has drunk the News coolaide.
Dr Zaius... if you didn’t live through it, you won’t understand how the ARL mistreated any club outside Sydney.
Amen to that - Quale and Arko hated the raiders. The Sydney bias 100% created the environment for Superleague.
All it took was for someone with money to get teams to jump ship. I still recall putting money in the bucket to save the Raiders because the NSWRL wanted to kick them out for salary cap breaches.

Best moment out of the Super League "war" was when Arko discovered that Kerry Packer had jumped ship as well and joined forces with Murdoch. :roflmao
I’ve still got a bottle of Raiders red wine at home with $1 from every sale going towards the players fund. I wouldn’t think it’s aged well haha

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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by PerthRaider86 » September 5, 2019, 6:31 pm

All i want is a team back here in perth :( :(
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Neeeegz » September 5, 2019, 7:35 pm

I'm using the Matty rule and giving us a 0/5 chance of the raiders relocating.
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Re: On the move? This is why your club is in danger of relocation

Post by Neeeegz » September 5, 2019, 7:39 pm

PerthRaider86 wrote:All i want is a team back here in perth :( :(
Yes that needs to happen, it opens up different time slots etc.. great for the NRL and broadcasters

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