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Re: Retain or release?

Post by edwahu » September 2, 2019, 4:37 pm

Shouldn't this be re-sign or don't? Release opens up a whole different can of worms.

Luke Bateman - I'd be keeping him if he takes a near minimum deal. I am his biggest critic but I think he would suit our current style and he would probably play 2 games a year.
Royce Hunt - Don't re-sign.
Sebastian Kris - Retain. He is no star but he didn't let anyone down in his games.
Andre Niko - No idea, which probably means release.
Brendan O’Hagan - Haven't seen a lot of him but his defense never looked like it got to the point it needed. Don't re-sign.
Kyle Patterson - Good reports on him, re-sign.
Reuben Porter - See Niko.
Jordan Rapana - Retain. I know Simonsson is a great prospect but he is almost guaranteed to struggle sometime within his first three seasons. It happens every time with rookies.
Harley Smith Shields - Is he actually off contract?
Sam Williams - Re-sign if he wants to stay cheaply and we can't somehow convince Sezer to be a backup.

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by greeneyed » September 2, 2019, 5:00 pm

Re-sign or don't doesn't have any alliteration, does it?!
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Northern Raider » September 2, 2019, 5:08 pm

We shouldn't assume young players will improve. Some do, others don't. Of course there is always space for shuffling round within the squad. This time last year I doubt any would have had Horsburgh and Young ahead of Guler and Murchie.
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Post by The Nickman » September 2, 2019, 5:11 pm

Personally I think the title “Re-sign or **** Off” is a more catchy one


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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Billy Walker » September 2, 2019, 5:23 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
September 2, 2019, 5:08 pm
We shouldn't assume young players will improve. Some do, others don't. Of course there is always space for shuffling round within the squad. This time last year I doubt any would have had Horsburgh and Young ahead of Guler and Murchie.
And the letters CNK wouldn’t have meant much to most. Be nice to think we could unearth a little more talent like we did this year but between CNK and Bateman we’ve had a decent run in recruitment pay dirt!

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Botman » September 2, 2019, 8:25 pm

The Rickman wrote:
September 2, 2019, 5:11 pm
Personally I think the title “Re-sign or **** Off” is a more catchy one
A combination of RickMan's Pick, Man and PigRickMan's "Get the **** outta here, ****" would be alright
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Post by Northern Raider » September 2, 2019, 8:56 pm

I much prefer the title "Pigman's a ****".

Whatever happened to that segment?
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by The Nickman » September 2, 2019, 9:20 pm

Too soon, NR
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Post by Botman » September 2, 2019, 9:25 pm

vale :(
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Northern Raider » September 3, 2019, 8:52 am

Sorry, didn't realise the wound was still open. :(
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by The Nickman » September 3, 2019, 9:04 am

We're still all very upset that our segments were all canned. Myself, little Nock was devastated, little reptar hardly posts anymore, little Hbomb is in rehab I think these days... really distressing stuff for all involved, ESPECIALLY Frank the cat.
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Post by reptar » September 3, 2019, 11:56 am

The Rickman wrote:We're still all very upset that our segments were all canned. Myself, little Nock was devastated, little reptar hardly posts anymore, little Hbomb is in rehab I think these days... really distressing stuff for all involved, ESPECIALLY Frank the cat.
Frank just sits there and stares at me.
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Post by dubby » September 3, 2019, 1:21 pm

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by sprintman » September 30, 2019, 10:33 pm

Murchie to Super League. Is this old news?

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by greeneyed » September 30, 2019, 10:50 pm

sprintman wrote:
September 30, 2019, 10:33 pm
Murchie to Super League. Is this old news?
Just a reminder.. if you post something like this, you need to post a link.
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by greeneyed » September 30, 2019, 10:52 pm

I presume this is the story...

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/reports- ... ubs-22828/

Munchie and Sam Williams among 13 players “offered” to Super League clubs. I think this means their managers have contacted other clubs, reportedly.
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Bay53 » October 1, 2019, 5:40 am

I think Murchie would be a bit silly to go to Super League at this stage.

His best is very good, he just needs to do it more often. There are too many games where you watch and forget he is playing. I would have thought he would be making an impact in nearly every game in NSW Cup by now.

However these things can turn Around quickly. It is not beyond him to have a big pre season and become a regular.

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Ruben Daley » October 1, 2019, 7:00 am

Bay53 wrote:
October 1, 2019, 5:40 am
I think Murchie would be a bit silly to go to Super League at this stage.

His best is very good, he just needs to do it more often. There are too many games where you watch and forget he is playing. I would have thought he would be making an impact in nearly every game in NSW Cup by now.

However these things can turn Around quickly. It is not beyond him to have a big pre season and become a regular.
That's true. But the ESL is not a one-way trip anymore, so maybe going over there could be the opportunity he needs to lift his game and stake a claim for a return to the NRL in two years. He does feel very young to be going over.

I'm more surprised the club would let Williams go. Assuming Sezer leaves, as expected, we need Sam to fulfil the back-up half role. Particularly now Hingano is gone. Unless our young halves are now up to the job.

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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Raider Azz » October 1, 2019, 10:42 am

Ruben Daley wrote:
October 1, 2019, 7:00 am
Bay53 wrote:
October 1, 2019, 5:40 am
I think Murchie would be a bit silly to go to Super League at this stage.

His best is very good, he just needs to do it more often. There are too many games where you watch and forget he is playing. I would have thought he would be making an impact in nearly every game in NSW Cup by now.

However these things can turn Around quickly. It is not beyond him to have a big pre season and become a regular.
That's true. But the ESL is not a one-way trip anymore, so maybe going over there could be the opportunity he needs to lift his game and stake a claim for a return to the NRL in two years. He does feel very young to be going over.

I'm more surprised the club would let Williams go. Assuming Sezer leaves, as expected, we need Sam to fulfil the back-up half role. Particularly now Hingano is gone. Unless our young halves are now up to the job.
Well I think the point is Sezer isn't leaving anymore. He's still under contract, and doesn't appear to want to go anywhere. On the other hand, Williams is off contract.

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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 10:59 am

Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Northern Raider » October 1, 2019, 11:12 am

The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 11:14 am

Northern Raider wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:12 am
The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
I've never been more serious!

Why do people keep thinking I'm taking the piss??
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Re: Retain or release?

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The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:12 am
The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
I've never been more serious!

Why do people keep thinking I'm taking the piss??
Might be that vial of yellow liquid you are holding in your left hand.

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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 12:06 pm

BJ wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:26 am
The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:12 am
The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
I've never been more serious!

Why do people keep thinking I'm taking the piss??
Might be that vial of yellow liquid you are holding in your left hand.
Oh this?? This... this is nothing...
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Post by Northern Raider » October 1, 2019, 12:48 pm

The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 12:06 pm
BJ wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:26 am
The Rickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:12 am
The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
I've never been more serious!

Why do people keep thinking I'm taking the piss??
Might be that vial of yellow liquid you are holding in your left hand.
Oh this?? This... this is nothing...
You told me it was Gatorade. Sure didn't taste like Gatorade.
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Post by Manbush » October 1, 2019, 12:59 pm

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edwahu wrote:
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Harley Smith Shields - Is he actually off contract?
I don’t think so, I’m sure his dad told me he was signed for 2years at the start of the year
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by afgtnk » October 1, 2019, 1:01 pm

It'd be suicide for both Sezer and us if he decided to kick up his heels and stay. Guy would be on at least 700k p.a. - no way we can keep that on our books.

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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 1:10 pm

afgtnk wrote:
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It'd be suicide for both Sezer and us if he decided to kick up his heels and stay. Guy would be on at least 700k p.a. - no way we can keep that on our books.
Haha you're joking, right?? 700k pa??

You're... you're serious, aren't you??
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Post by zim » October 1, 2019, 1:12 pm

There's no way Sezer is on that much. The generally accepted figure from what I've seen / heard and based on his initial signing is 500-550k.

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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 1:16 pm

Haha affsgjhkghjgfvhjkfgwe's not even trying anymore.
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Post by Botman » October 1, 2019, 1:25 pm

Every time he posts about this, the number goes up.
By the time round 1 kicks off, aknfaslja will have Aiden on 6mil a year
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Post by The Nickman » October 1, 2019, 1:43 pm

PigRickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 1:25 pm
Every time he posts about this, the number goes up.
By the time round 1 kicks off, aknfaslja will have Aiden on 6mil a year
Well, a Clive Churchill medal DOES push a value up.
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Re: Retain or release?

Post by Matt » October 1, 2019, 1:52 pm

Bay53 wrote:
October 1, 2019, 5:40 am
I think Murchie would be a bit silly to go to Super League at this stage.

His best is very good, he just needs to do it more often. There are too many games where you watch and forget he is playing. I would have thought he would be making an impact in nearly every game in NSW Cup by now.

However these things can turn Around quickly. It is not beyond him to have a big pre season and become a regular.
Didnt he break his arm or wrist this yr? That would hamper any forward.

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Post by Matt » October 1, 2019, 1:54 pm

The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:14 am
Northern Raider wrote:
October 1, 2019, 11:12 am
The Rickman wrote:
October 1, 2019, 10:59 am
Yeah, I'm not sure why Sezer would want to leave after winning a Premiership and the Clive Churchill medal at the Raiders.
Funny thing is you said this mid season, slightly taking the piss. It's closer than ever to becoming true now.
I've never been more serious!

Why do people keep thinking I'm taking the piss??
Youve been super optimistic this yr, I still read that as a piss take mid yr. But, how right might you be? A 5 GF field goals, to better his Sharks effort, might get it.

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Post by afgtnk » October 1, 2019, 2:23 pm

zim wrote:
October 1, 2019, 1:12 pm
There's no way Sezer is on that much. The generally accepted figure from what I've seen / heard and based on his initial signing is 500-550k.
He'd very easily be on that. Every report had him on 500k and that was on the old cap.

Since then the cap has gone up by three million and players nearly all have their salaries pegged to cap rises. That's also not withstanding any increase he managed to negotiate outside of that rise in his new contract.

700k is honestly a conservative figure. Zero chance he's still on 500k.

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