Half the comp is slower than ours. What is this?afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
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well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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That's the big problem when they penalise those. It happens so often when they do it's actually unfair to the player pinged. Either penalise them or don't. None of this selecting on isolated incidence and ingnoring the rest.PigRickman wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:52 pmi thought it was the right call, it was an especially egregrious effortkiwi raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:49 pm Harsh call to be penalised in possession for an incorrect play the ball, you'd find 50 of them in any game if you wanted too, in fact Tapau played the ball about 20 times and I'd be surprised if his foot touched the ball in any of them
they'll let it go if you at least attempt to play the ball with the foot, i dont think he made a genuine attempt there... that being said, you're 100% right on Tapau, he had one just as bad about 10 minutes later, and nothing
He also managed to walk 4 metres off the mark and earn an offside penalty somehow, which was baffling to say the least.
Wasnt all one way traffic, the officials had a stinker, and we certainly got some calls
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That’s a fair call - Oldfield and Simmonsen are quick.afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
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Actually, and with no research at all, I doubt there's a team out there that doesn't have a faster player than our fastest player. Whoever that is.julian87 wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:01 pmHalf the comp is slower than ours. What is this?afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
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I think that was Fonua Balke that walked a mile off the mark, he just about walked in to a different time zone!PigRickman wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:52 pmi thought it was the right call, it was an especially egregrious effortkiwi raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:49 pm Harsh call to be penalised in possession for an incorrect play the ball, you'd find 50 of them in any game if you wanted too, in fact Tapau played the ball about 20 times and I'd be surprised if his foot touched the ball in any of them
they'll let it go if you at least attempt to play the ball with the foot, i dont think he made a genuine attempt there... that being said, you're 100% right on Tapau, he had one just as bad about 10 minutes later, and nothing
He also managed to walk 4 metres off the mark and earn an offside penalty somehow, which was baffling to say the least.
Wasnt all one way traffic, the officials had a stinker, and we certainly got some calls
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Would BJ be playing next week in a Craig Bellamy coached team after that effort? I don’t think so.
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I don’t like blaming the refs but can we seriously get our games done by anyone other than Klein. Seriously the guy is hopeless
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Yeah we're coming 3rd which is why we should expect better than what was served up today. They had 2 on the bench for 60 mins ****. No excuse not to win that game. A premiership contender wins that game.
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I think you're right actually.kiwi raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:04 pm I think that was Fonua Balke that walked a mile off the mark, he just about walked in to a different time zone!
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I've just named 5/7 players that are almost certain to be caught in anything over 60ish metres by at least one opposition player possessing decent speed (which you can reasonably assume IMO). Raps had some legs about him prior to this season but they look shot atm.julian87 wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:01 pmHalf the comp is slower than ours. What is this?afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
The speed the likes of the Storm have on their flanks with Addo-Carr and Vunivalu makes a huge difference to their game.
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BetterNorthern Raider wrote:Because it makes a quote thread incredibly hard to follow.dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:30 pm At least you managed to quote correctly this time.
Who honestly cares if the quoted text is top or bottom? It's clearly highlighted and readable. And if this is the chagrin of your life, you're going alright.Sent from my SM-G960F using The Greenhouse mobile app powered by TapatalkNorthern Raider wrote:So you do it correctly and everybody else is wrong. Ok, we'd better all get this sorted.dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:25 pm Ha! I am. According to our GH app.
Go back and check out your own incompetence IRT quoting. It's remarkably bad.
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James Hooper and Mick Ennis both calling Wighton’s try ok. Ennis said the interception try was offside Hooper not convinced. Hooper calling for BJs head, Ennis defending him.
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The positive is we can be so much better, we haven't peaked yet imo
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And they're B grader's.
FWIW NQ are slow
FWIW NQ are slow
Sent from my SM-G960F using The Greenhouse mobile app powered by TapatalkBilly Walker wrote:That’s a fair call - Oldfield and Simmonsen are quick.afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Was something said? I’m confused?dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:09 pm And they're B grader's.
FWIW NQ are slowSent from my SM-G960F using The Greenhouse mobile app powered by TapatalkBilly Walker wrote:That’s a fair call - Oldfield and Simmonsen are quick.afgtnk wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:59 pm One thing I think we're weak in that very few people point out - our lack of speed in the backline. Cotric, Croker, Leilua, Sezer, Rapana (currently). You can now throw CNK into that basket as well after he showed a lack of toe in attempting to chase Garrick down. Bit more speed and we'd almost certainly have stopped that being a try.
Wighton is our fastest and he's not that that quick. Honestly can't think of a slower backline than ours.
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Just saw the adin fanua blake mocking of the crowd.... what an absolute ****..... i hope karma gets him and the **** eagles get bundled out in week 1
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Much. Keep it up.dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:08 pmBetterNorthern Raider wrote:Because it makes a quote thread incredibly hard to follow.dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:30 pm At least you managed to quote correctly this time.
Who honestly cares if the quoted text is top or bottom? It's clearly highlighted and readable. And if this is the chagrin of your life, you're going alright.Sent from my SM-G960F using The Greenhouse mobile app powered by TapatalkNorthern Raider wrote:So you do it correctly and everybody else is wrong. Ok, we'd better all get this sorted.dubby wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 6:25 pm Ha! I am. According to our GH app.
Go back and check out your own incompetence IRT quoting. It's remarkably bad.
Now, about footy. We were bad and deserved to lose, yeah?
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The truth is Bellamy would have punted BJ well before he would ever get the chance to do what he did today.Billy Walker wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:05 pm Would BJ be playing next week in a Craig Bellamy coached team after that effort? I don’t think so.
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As much as BJ was frustrating today I still can’t not pick him next week. Can break a game open at anytime and is the only player outside of Wighton maybe who can offer this.
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Bj copping a pasting. He's clearly short of a gallop and bothered to chase Garrick all the way. I was sort of impressed. If only he didn't finish the play by stumbling like a fat kid down a hill - all it needed was benny hill music.
I'm still not sure it was the brain explosion that people are making out. I suspect he's just fatigued and getting into awkward positions. We need him what he brings at his best. Even now he's super effective coming off our line and gets quick play the balls.
I'm still not sure it was the brain explosion that people are making out. I suspect he's just fatigued and getting into awkward positions. We need him what he brings at his best. Even now he's super effective coming off our line and gets quick play the balls.
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I am still absolutely seething.
But anyone who is blaming Croker's kicking for that is an absolute braindead **** ****. He literally scored all the points. If he kicks it we go within two and then what? Klien and co weren't going to blow a **** penalty for us to kick to golden point, get **** serious.
If Croker's was a try last week Jack's should have been a try this week. The absolute highlight of the referee's incompetence today was Jack's being sent up no try and Manly's - where he clearly, obviously, blatantly dropped it - as a try.
But anyone who is blaming Croker's kicking for that is an absolute braindead **** ****. He literally scored all the points. If he kicks it we go within two and then what? Klien and co weren't going to blow a **** penalty for us to kick to golden point, get **** serious.
If Croker's was a try last week Jack's should have been a try this week. The absolute highlight of the referee's incompetence today was Jack's being sent up no try and Manly's - where he clearly, obviously, blatantly dropped it - as a try.
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BJ, rocks and diamonds as usual. Today more rocks.
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Croker also saved 2 tries today, didnt he?
Feels like a weird game to get on him for a single missed kick
Feels like a weird game to get on him for a single missed kick
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Manly being offside for their 8 point try and Jack getting denied was the difference tonight, two absolute **** calls in this modern day and age.
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Last week I saw a post that said Joey was 112kgs. And he actually looks itBoomercm wrote:Bj copping a pasting. He's clearly short of a gallop and bothered to chase Garrick all the way. I was sort of impressed. If only he didn't finish the play by stumbling like a fat kid down a hill - all it needed was benny hill music.
I'm still not sure it was the brain explosion that people are making out. I suspect he's just fatigued and getting into awkward positions. We need him what he brings at his best. Even now he's super effective coming off our line and gets quick play the balls.
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I thought the Jack Try was very ordinary at first
but having watched it again, its the right call...
Im still yet to see a replay properly of the intercept try, but i would find it VERY hard to believe he's onside. Id need to see it to believe it.
Im still stunned they didnt check it
but having watched it again, its the right call...
Im still yet to see a replay properly of the intercept try, but i would find it VERY hard to believe he's onside. Id need to see it to believe it.
Im still stunned they didnt check it
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Correct, he should of had to go back almost 10 meters, absolute crap penaltyPigRickman wrote:I think you're right actually.kiwi raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:04 pm I think that was Fonua Balke that walked a mile off the mark, he just about walked in to a different time zone!
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I don’t think we will ever peak!! Before you know it the 2020 season will be here and we will be talking about what might have been!!!kiwi raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:08 pm The positive is we can be so much better, we haven't peaked yet imo
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I took a few looks at wightons try and its a try every daybof the week. He didnt lose possession of the ball. The defender tried to dislodge it and it spun in the process but he always had his hand on the ball. I love it how that was sent up no try and yet turbos goes up as a try!!
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Actually you can’t pick him. Because he’ll be suspended.LastRaider wrote:As much as BJ was frustrating today I still can’t not pick him next week. Can break a game open at anytime and is the only player outside of Wighton maybe who can offer this.
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Yeah I’m not Crokers biggest fan but I thought he was among the best today. Kickers miss kicks at times.PigRickman wrote: ↑August 25, 2019, 7:29 pm Croker also saved 2 tries today, didnt he?
Feels like a weird game to get on him for a single missed kick
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The jack try I can live with....just. 50/50 calls don't always go your way. The offload/strip call that they scored off a few play the balls later, and the offside Intercept I can't. It's very disappointing to be the better team and not get the 2 points. We shut down turbo, we shut down the offloads, DCE was quite apart from the 40/20. We did everything we needed to get the 2 points....
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Jack’s no try was correct. I agree. Unlucky, because sent up a try I think it stays a try.PigRickman wrote:I thought the Jack Try was very ordinary at first
but having watched it again, its the right call...
Im still yet to see a replay properly of the intercept try, but i would find it VERY hard to believe he's onside. Id need to see it to believe it.
Im still stunned they didnt check it
The offside is a lot closer than I thought. There’s no good footage in the fox coverage. But the few screen caps I looked at are fairly inconclusive.
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I watched the game from the Philippines and the crowd seemed subdued even though the volume was high at the bar I was in. Was this how it was at the game? In big games we seem to do better away from Bruce, what's doing?
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Croker was probably our best player and has been one of our best all season however this does not absolve him of putting his kicking under the spotlight.
Yes Leilua’s 2 point giveaway was moronic, yes Whitehead’s penalty at the stroke of half time was dumb but again tonight proved Croker’s kicking should be looked at too. If not, then at least on the left side.
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