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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
7
35%
Raiders 1-12
11
55%
Draw
1
5%
Sea Eagles 1-12
0
No votes
Sea Eagles 13+
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20

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2019 Rd 23 V Sea Eagles: Teams and Previews

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Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles
Sunday 25 August 4:05pm
Canberra Stadium
Gates open: 11:30am
Jersey Flegg: Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles 11:45am
NSW Cup: Mounties V Blacktown Sea Eagles 1:40pm
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The Raiders produced a massive comeback in Melbourne over the Storm in Round 22 - and are now back at home in Round 23 for yet another huge clash, this time against the Manly Sea Eagles! Who should line up for the Green Machine? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson (C)
10. Sia Soliola
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Ryan Sutton

14. Bailey Simonsson
15. Dunamis Lui
16. Corey Horsburgh
17. Hudson Young

18. Sam Williams
19. Siliva Havili
20. Emre Guler
21. Michael Oldfield

Injury/Suspension
Joe Tapine (Ribs) Round 24-25
Ata Hingano (Shoulder) Round 24-25
Brad Abbey (Knee) Season

Manly Sea Eagles

1. Tom Trbojevic
2. Jorge Taufua
3. Brendan Elliot
4. Moses Suli
5. Reuben Garrick
6. Dylan Walker
7. Daly Cherry-Evans
8. Addin Fonua-Blake
9. Apisai Koroisau
10. Martin Taupau
11. Joel Thompson
12. Jack Gosiewski
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Manase Fainu
15. Corey Waddell
16. Morgan Boyle
17. Taniela Paseka

18. Lachlan Croker
19. Tevita Funa
20. Cade Cust
21. Lloyd Perrett

Officials

Referees: Ashley Klein, Ziggy Przeklasa-Adamski
Sideline Officials: Phil Henderson, Michael Wise
Video Referees: Steve Chiddy, Ben Galea

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If we don't get at least 20k to this it will be an outrage

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Those 17 beautiful green beasts who just pumped Storm will do...
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-PJ- wrote:Those 17 beautiful green beasts who just pumped Storm will do...
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-PJ- wrote: August 17, 2019, 8:45 pm Those 17 beautiful green beasts who just pumped Storm will do...
We’re that good we can probably afford to rest a few against these hacks!
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Manly will be dangerous, but if Ricky has our heads switched on I believe we can win this. And we owe it to ourselves to do so.
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-TW- wrote: August 17, 2019, 8:43 pm If we don't get at least 20k to this it will be an outrage

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It'll be at least 22k if we get reasonable weather, I think - the excitement that will now flood the city will be infectious.

EDIT: Long-range forecast on BOM suggests around 15-16 degrees, fairly sunny. The perfect recipe!
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The worrying thing is Jordan Rapana... reportedly a burst blood vessel in his wrist. Sia Soliola knee... Munster might be in trouble according to the post game show tonight, as he came in late, tackling below the knee on Soliola. And Tapine ribs, cartilage was mentioned in the Fox call.
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greeneyed wrote: August 17, 2019, 10:10 pm The worrying thing is Jordan Rapana... reportedly a burst blood vessel in his wrist. Sia Soliola knee... Munster might be in trouble according to the post game show tonight, as he came in late, tackling below the knee on Soliola. And Tapine ribs, cartilage was mentioned in the Fox call.
Nothing about Bateman’s knee? It looked ugly in the tackle and he threw his hand up. He’s a tough bugger!
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Sia was part of the viking clap - he will be OK it seems. Rapana was super brave.
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Ricky Stuart says in the press conference that Joe Tapine hurt his ribs last week and was playing with a pain killing injection tonight... but couldn't get through the second half.
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Really hope that Raps isn't just bandaged up and named to start again - his body must be held together with tape at this stage. Play Simonsson and give him a chance to rest and recover while we can before the finals
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Assuming Tapine is injured, my team would be:
1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Horsburgh

14. Simonsson
15. Lui
16. Young
17. Sutton

I considered starting Sutton but I honestly think Horsburgh deserves it over him, he's been putting in some good work since he's been back. Young in for Tapine if he's injured. Hopefully the others in doubt are good to go.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Young come on for the last 20-30mins at second row with Bateman shifting to lock... would give us a fresh player attacking an edge that's been worn down and brings Bateman's niggle and staunch defence to the middle to close out the game. Wouldn't mind seeing it for the Manly game and I think it's the type of game plan that would work well against a team like the Sharks who we've got coming up.
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1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aiden Sezer
8. Josh Papalli
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Sia Soliola
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Ryan Sutton

14. Bailey Simonsson
15. Hudson Young
16. Dunamis Lui
17. Corey Horsburgh

Injuries pending of course. If Tapine wasn't injured I'd expect Soliola to drop back to the bench as a "rest" but I don't think we'll see 2 changes to the pack unless it's forced.
Sutton to play the tackle bot at lock. If it was a prop we were replacing I'd go with horse.
Hudson Young to come in over Guler as a like for like replacement for Tapine. Liva to continue to build minutes for Mounties.
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On form Simonsson gets the wing spot over Cotric. Not sure what has happened to Nick this year, he has not come on like we all expected him to. I still think he was lucky to get a start with NSW in game one. For some one with such a big frame, he does not seem to bend the line at all. I don't think he will lose he's position in the side, and hopefully he gets it together soon.
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Raiders_Pat wrote:Assuming Tapine is injured, my team would be:
1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Horsburgh

14. Simonsson
15. Lui
16. Young
17. Sutton

I considered starting Sutton but I honestly think Horsburgh deserves it over him, he's been putting in some good work since he's been back. Young in for Tapine if he's injured. Hopefully the others in doubt are good to go.
I think we need Horse coming off the bench now. That middle 40 minutes is really important part of the game and we need horse here I think
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I’m with Hors off the bench as it’s a key role in the modern game. Our bench props are forming a good combination and Papalli and Sia are starting us off well too.

We are very balanced at the moment and players know their roles.
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BJ wrote: August 18, 2019, 9:45 am I’m with Hors off the bench as it’s a key role in the modern game. Our bench props are forming a good combination and Papalli and Sia are starting us off well too.

We are very balanced at the moment and players know their roles.
If Tapine is injured then who off the bench starts at lock this game for you? I think there is some merit in starting Sutton but I think I prefer the idea of starting Horsburgh... you could even play him for 40-50 minutes straight and then sub him off for Young or something like that. The other option would be Lui but for me considering all options I'd have Horsburgh there.
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I think Hors' bench impact shouldn't be treated so lightly - he really boosts the energy coming off the bench.
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Assuming Tapine (ribs) and Rapana (burst blood vessel) are out injured, I'd pick:

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric. I know he had three weeks off, but he needs to find form real fast.
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Simonsson
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Sutton, because he needs to be in the run-on side fo full impact.

14. Oldfield as cover for the backs.
15. Lui or Havili
16. Guler
17. Horsburgh
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I think Rapana could play , but probably best to give him a rest.
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I’d be resting Rapana if he’s not 100% fit and even if Tapine IS fit I’d be sending him to Mounties for a week to sort his **** head out. That was criminal what he did against the Storm, should’ve cost us the game, and he deserves to be punished for it

Hudson Young in for Tapine and Havili into the 17 for Rapana (if required)

If Sia isn’t fit then Guler comes onto the bench and Horsburgh starts
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So I guess that makes my team something like this:

1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker (c)
4. Joey
5. Rapana (Simo)
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson (c)
10. Soliola (Horsburgh)
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

14. Simo (Havili)
15. Lui
16. Horsburgh (Guler)
17. Sutton
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It's a team that could still beat the Sea Eagles, but we'll need to have our heads switched on.
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The Rickman wrote: August 18, 2019, 11:49 am So I guess that makes my team something like this:

1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker (c)
4. Joey
5. Rapana (Simo)
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Hodgson (c)
10. Soliola (Horsburgh)
11. Young
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

14. Simo (Havili)
15. Lui
16. Horsburgh (Guler)
17. Sutton
Don't mind this team but I personally wouldn't have Young starting unless it's a necessity through injury. If he had been playing regular first grade the past few weeks and putting his hand up then it might be a different story. I think he definitely deserves a run this week on the interchange though.
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How about Bateman 11, Sutton starting at 13 and Young on the bench Pat?
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Horsburg is playing better footy but Sutton is better suited to start at lock if Tapine is out. Simply because Sutton offers zilch off the bench.

I have Lui at two attempted strips the last couple of weeks, 2 penalties given and zero success rate. He needs to put that back in the locker. He's the kind of no-name player the refs will pounce on and ping for anything to show they don't let stripping ruin the game.
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gangrenous wrote: August 18, 2019, 12:52 pm How about Bateman 11, Sutton starting at 13 and Young on the bench Pat?
The only reason why I'd have Sutton starting at lock over Horsburgh is for reasons others have mentioned i.e. Sutton not being as effective off the interchange as he has been in starting roles and the fact that Horsburgh has been playing a fantastic role off the bench. I think Horsburgh deserves the spot though and is capable of handling more minutes.
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The Rickman wrote: August 18, 2019, 11:46 am I’d be resting Rapana if he’s not 100% fit and even if Tapine IS fit I’d be sending him to Mounties for a week to sort his **** head out. That was criminal what he did against the Storm, should’ve cost us the game, and he deserves to be punished for it

Hudson Young in for Tapine and Havili into the 17 for Rapana (if required)

If Sia isn’t fit then Guler comes onto the bench and Horsburgh starts
Earlier this year you weren't impressed with Horsburgh, have you seen the light? Personally I rate him highly and believe that he'll play soo one day.
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So what do we think going forward, persist with Bailey on the bench?


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Brew wrote:So what do we think going forward, persist with Bailey on the bench?


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We have shown we don’t need more than 3 forwards on the bench however I don’t know if Bailey is the right option but I think we need a player who can come on and add spark when needed. That may mean limited minutes in most games but is an option we can carry up our sleeves in games.

I’m thinking maybe Tom Starling??? Can probably cover positions in backline as well as providing some spark around the ruck

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89_90_94_?? wrote: August 18, 2019, 7:26 am On form Simonsson gets the wing spot over Cotric. Not sure what has happened to Nick this year, he has not come on like we all expected him to. I still think he was lucky to get a start with NSW in game one. For some one with such a big frame, he does not seem to bend the line at all. I don't think he will lose he's position in the side, and hopefully he gets it together soon.
I tend to agree with this, but can’t see it happening. It would be a different story if Simmonsen was playing out of his skin at every chance. I suspect Cotric will get the nod this week but if he has a poor game against Manly I think pressure will be building. Raps looks busted on the other wing but is giving all his got. Cotric looks big and fresh and just isn’t impacting at the moment. Would love him to find form and put on a show this week!!
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Do Manly have a big supporter base in Canberra? That would help boost the crowd. If it was St. George it wouldn't be a problem
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89_90_94_?? wrote:On form Simonsson gets the wing spot over Cotric. Not sure what has happened to Nick this year, he has not come on like we all expected him to. I still think he was lucky to get a start with NSW in game one. For some one with such a big frame, he does not seem to bend the line at all. I don't think he will lose he's position in the side, and hopefully he gets it together soon.
Yeah I've been thinking this.

He's not the same as last year.

And Rapana is pretty banged up too.

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