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Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by greeneyed » August 7, 2019, 8:38 pm

Gary Belcher, Ruben Wiki and Kevin Walters nominated for Hall of Fame

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Three former Canberra Raiders players, Gary Belcher, Ruben Wiki and Kevin Walters are on the shortlist of 25 players to be considered for admission to the NRL Hall of Fame this year. Belcher and Wiki are Canberra Raiders legends, but Walters, who predominantly played with the Brisbane Broncos, was a member of Canberra' 1989 Grand Final squad.

Up to four will be added to the Hall of Fame during a ceremony in Sydney on Wednesday, August 14. For the first time contributors will also be honoured with one administrator, one print journalist and one broadcast journalist to be added to the Hall of Fame.

Gary Belcher
Born: May 28, 1962, Brisbane, QLD
Junior Football: Souths Brisbane
Club: Canberra
Position: Fullback
Premiership Career 1986-93: Played 148 (147+1). Tries 69, Goals 148, Points 572
First-Grade Debut: Canberra v Manly at Brookvale Oval, 8/3/1986 (Rd 1)
Grand Finals: 4 – Canberra 1987 (L), 1989 (W), 1990 (W), 1991 (L)
Rep Career
Australia: Tests 15 (1988-91)
Queensland: State of Origins 16 (1986-93)

Ruben Wiki
Born: January 21, 1973, Auckland, NZ
Junior Football: Otahuhu Leopards
Clubs: Canberra, Auckland
Position: Centre/Second Row/Prop
Premiership Career 1993-2008: Played 312 (290+22). Tries 72, Points 288
Canberra 1993-2004: Played 225 (208+17). Tries 60, Points 240
Auckland 2005-08: Played 87 (82+5). Tries 12, Points 48
First-Grade Debut: Canberra v Souths at Bruce Stadium, 13/6/1993 (Rd 11)
Grand Finals: 1 – Canberra 1994 (W)
Rep Career
New Zealand: Tests 55 (1994-2006), Tri-Nations 1999, 2004, 2005, 2006 Captained the Kiwis in 18 Tests; World Cups 1995, 2000

Kevin Walters
Born: October 20, 1967, Rockhampton, QLD
Junior Football: Booval Swifts
Clubs: Canberra, Brisbane Broncos
Position: Five-eighth
Premiership Career 1987-2001: Played 287 (272+15). Tries 74, Points 296
Canberra 1987-89: Played 46 (33+13). Tries 9, Points 36
Brisbane 1990-2001: Played 241 (239+2). Tries 65, Points 260
First-Grade Debut: Canberra v Norths at Seiffert Oval, Queanbeyan, 21/3/1987 (Rd 4)
Grand Finals: 7 – Canberra 1987 r (L) 1989 r (W), Brisbane 1992 (W), 1993 (W), 1997 (W), 1998 (W), 2000 c (W)
Rep Career
Australia: Tests 11 (1991-98); World Cup 1992; Kangaroo tour 1994
Queensland: State of Origins 20 (1989-99).

Other nominees

Greg Alexander
Danny Buderus
Les Cowie
Craig Fitzgibbon
Denis Flannery
Michael Hancock
Paul Harragon
Garry Jack
Stacey Jones
Bob Lindner
Ian Moir
Michael O’Connor
Terry Randall
Rod Reddy
Steve Renouf
Eric Simms
Paul Sironen
Dick Thornett
Geoff Toovey
Paul Vautin
Elwyn Walters
Craig Young

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/08/07/nrl ... -for-2019/

Media personalities short-listed for Hall of Fame: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/08/06/gre ... l-of-fame/

Legendary administrators short-listed for Hall of Fame: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/08/05/hal ... hort-list/
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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by Billy Walker » August 7, 2019, 9:11 pm

Belcher v Jack once again. Badge has him covered! Wiki is my pick of the Raiders lads though.

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Post by PigRickman » August 7, 2019, 9:47 pm

Wiki is a walk up start. If he's not a HOFer then you're doing the HOF wrong.
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Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by greeneyed » August 7, 2019, 10:42 pm

PigRickman wrote:Wiki is a walk up start. If he's not a HOFer then you're doing the HOF wrong.
How quite a number of these players are already not in the Hall of Fame surprises. Belcher and Wiki certainly deserve to be included.

They should probably start by including, or then eliminating, all the old era players first.


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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by Lui_Bon » August 8, 2019, 1:21 am

I'm not sure how many people actually get a go this time round, but I'd be thinking:

Gary Belcher
Ruben Wiki
Stacey Jones
Michael O’Connor
Dick Thornett

with O'Connor and Wiki at the front of the queue
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Post by RedRaider » August 8, 2019, 6:38 am

Some absolute champions not yet in the Hall of Fame. Steve Renouf was one of the most electrifying centers I've ever seen. Different eras but only maybe half a stride behind the Immortal Reg Gasnier imo.

I wonder why they limit the numbers to 4. They could do say a Pre-1980 four and a post 1980 four. Players like Ian Moir are no longer with us but I'm sure it would be a great legacy for his surviving family/friends/supporters. These were the players who helped build the popularity of the code.

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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by greeneyed » August 8, 2019, 7:43 am

Lui_Bon wrote:
August 8, 2019, 1:21 am
I'm not sure how many people actually get a go this time round, but I'd be thinking:

Gary Belcher
Ruben Wiki
Stacey Jones
Michael O’Connor
Dick Thornett

with O'Connor and Wiki at the front of the queue
Up to four players. One of the challenges with using the rep records as a guide is that some eras included some great rivalries, while others do not. For example, Belcher and Jack. Jack held onto Kangaroos jerseys probably longer than he should, but he was the incumbent and Belcher had to dislodge him. But two great fullbacks who couldn’t fit into one team.

Then there’s the issue that players in the Sydney competition have all their games counted, but for some strange reason, Brisbane competition games are left aside. Belcher’s games in the BRL simply forgotten.
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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by BJ » August 8, 2019, 11:51 am

Greg Alexander was a good player, but a clear step below Sterling, Stuart, Langer in the overlapping period.

If he wasn’t in the media, I doubt he would be mentioned so often.

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Post by mick63 » August 8, 2019, 12:16 pm

Hard to believe Terry Randall doesn’t deserve a spot.
Multiple grand final wins, NSW and Australian appearances.
And he exemplified an era when staunch toughness was an accepted part of the game.
But I won’t hold my breath as these gongs are used to sanitise history.

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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by Riaan » August 8, 2019, 12:17 pm

Danny Bederus?? :lol: :lol: :lol: I don't see how passing the ball to Andrew Johns qualifies you as a rugby league great.

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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by greeneyed » August 8, 2019, 2:02 pm

Gary Belcher, Ruben Wiki head Canberra Raiders chances for NRL hall of fame

Canberra Raiders greats Gary Belcher and Ruben Wiki are in the running to enter the NRL hall of fame. Throw in Kevin Walters' role in the 1989 triumph to round out the ACT's links to the 25 former players in contention to be the next four additions to the hall of fame next week.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by Seiffert82 » August 10, 2019, 12:47 pm

Kevin Walters? Hall of Fame?

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Re: Three former Raiders nominated for NRL Hall of Fame

Post by BJ » August 10, 2019, 12:56 pm

Seiffert82 wrote:Kevin Walters? Hall of Fame?
He certainly is ahead of Bulgarelli on my merit list.

I do get concerned that players like K Walters and Alexander get remembered more fondly as players through their continued involvement in the game, compared to the likes of Clyde, Stacey Jones and Brett Kenny etc who don’t get too many mentions.

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Post by yurithe1 » August 10, 2019, 1:03 pm

As long as it's not Greg Alexander and/or Paul Harragon, I'll be okay with it.
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