Former Canberra Raiders player Todd Carney says he regrets not finishing his career in green

[greeneyed]

Former Canberra Raiders player Todd Carney says he regrets not finishing his career in green



Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

[FuiFui BradBrad]

If only he agreed to the 5 point plan

[Botman]

I regret him not playing his entire career green.
This decade goes entirely differently for this team and fan base if TC was capable of keeping himself out of trouble.

[FROG]

With the fullness of time i think sacking carney was the right decision for both parties. Club cuture is so critical. I think it always pays in the long run to cut blokes who cant measure up, and frankly once theyve been cut there can be no turning back..

[FuiFui BradBrad]

I regret him not playing his entire career green.
This decade goes entirely differently for this team and fan base if TC was capable of keeping himself out of trouble.

I was thinking about that just as I hit send. Sliding doors moment, had he said yes to the 5 point plan, and stayed off the grog, he would have helped us out in some dark McCrone times.

Even now, in this side, we’re a stronger squad. Probably wouldn’t have a Dally M though

[T_R]

Imagine a Todd Carney with the personality of, say, Jarrod Croker.

The last ten years of Raiders history would look very different, I think.

Not a bad human. Just took longer than most of us to get his **** together.

[Botman]

Imagine a Todd Carney with the personality of, say, Jarrod Croker.

The last ten years of Raiders history would look very different, I think.

Not a bad human. Just took longer than most of us to get his **** together.

Intestering person to use, and maybe intentional?
But from what i have seen via social media and been told, they are pretty close mates...

A real shame how his career turned out. Could have been one our greats

[Wiki Special]

I still think that while he was a great player signing Jason Smith played a part in the clubs lack of culture with our young players coming through being loose units.

Todd Carney was electrifying at his best, such a shame he didn't have the career he could have had. And he still played Origin and won a Dally M.

[T_R]

Until recently at least, Carney still blamed the Raiders for his demise at the club. He thought that as a result of training and socialising withh the top squad as a teen, he was unreasonably exposed to a hard drinking culture from the age of 16, without enough supervision.

He might have a point, but I guess others were in the same boat and turned out fine.

[greeneyed]

When you read the article... it’s not exactly a mea culpa.

He says things like he moved on to “bigger things”... but accepts they were not “better things”.

And says something like... I owe the club for the things they did for me... and they owe me for the things I did for the club.

And “Regrets? Not really. Regrets to leave a club I wanted to play for the rest of my career? Yes.”

[T_R]

Can't read the damn article! I don't subscribe to the Canberra Times....it doesn't sufficiently reflect my hard right life view back to me.

[Dusty]

Who?


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[-PJ-]

I can remember back in 2007? when Toddles was weighing up a massive approach from Penrith.
It was before I even joined this forum and I sat glued to Mrs PJs laptop waiting for the decision.

Todd eventually stayed and I was really happy..ill never forget that moment.

Now on Todd..I, like a few others on here often think about how we would have travelled, how many finals series we would have played in and maybe..just maybe how many GFs we may have reached and won if TCarneys melon was screwed on..you know..sober !

In my opinion he was a super talent and could have taken us to the promised land. It wasn't to be. We had to sack him, he crapped on our club 100 times and the boss got sick of punishing him with fines. He wasn't learning..

And it's a shame. Today..Todd is 33. He'd probably retired by now or ripping up bush footy somewhere.

He was a fantastic rugby league player..could pour a beer as well.

[greeneyed]

I can remember back in 2007? when Toddles was weighing up a massive approach from Penrith.
It was before I even joined this forum and I sat glued to Mrs PJs laptop waiting for the decision.

Todd eventually stayed and I was really happy..ill never forget that moment.

Now on Todd..I, like a few others on here often think about how we would have travelled, how many finals series we would have played in and maybe..just maybe how many GFs we may have reached and won if TCarneys melon was screwed on..you know..sober !

In my opinion he was a super talent and could have taken us to the promised land. It wasn't to be. We had to sack him, he crapped on our club 100 times and the boss got sick of punishing him with fines. He wasn't learning..

And it's a shame. Today..Todd is 33. He'd probably retired by now or ripping up bush footy somewhere.

He was a fantastic rugby league player..could pour a beer as well.

The Todd Carney threads, re-signing or in trouble, are probably still the biggest in this site’s history.

Shame he didn’t work out what was important much, much, much earlier.

A Byron Bay team has him as captain coach now.

[-PJ-]

I fell in love with the "IN TODD WE TRUST"sign at Bruce Stadium.

[Billy Walker]

I still think that while he was a great player signing Jason Smith played a part in the clubs lack of culture with our young players coming through being loose units.

Todd Carney was electrifying at his best, such a shame he didn't have the career he could have had. And he still played Origin and won a Dally M.

Interesting take. Everyone loves a rouge player who’s a throwback to the 70’s but you may have a good point here.

[Botman]

Until recently at least, Carney still blamed the Raiders for his demise at the club. He thought that as a result of training and socialising withh the top squad as a teen, he was unreasonably exposed to a hard drinking culture from the age of 16, without enough supervision.

He might have a point, but I guess others were in the same boat and turned out fine.

Yeah that's interesting... i dont necassarily think just because others over came it, that it was right and fair to expose him to it, if that was indeed the case... and tbh i have no reason to think it wasnt

WHat i will say is that culture wasnt/isnt localised to this club. So if he couldnt handle that culture here, he was unlikely to handle it anywhere... which doesnt take away from his point but on some level you have to kind of deal with environment of your industry weather that's fair, right or otherwise

[gangrenous]

I joined this forum when Todd screwed up. He’s never taken responsibility and apologised for that.

[raiderskater]

My immediate response to reading this headline was: "It's YOUR EDIT FAULT YOU DIDN'T!"

Dugan and Ferguson's betrayal stings, but Carney's probably still hurts most. We gave him every chance we could to finish his career here. He threw it back in our faces.

[woppadingo]

Cry me a river.
Let me get my violin.

[Sterlk]

Can't read the damn article! I don't subscribe to the Canberra Times....it doesn't sufficiently reflect my hard right life view back to me.

Anybody with a modicum of technical nous can get at the article's content for free, and perfectly legitimately without any dodgy shenanigans. I'll PM you some instructions.

Most news site paywalls are a joke, but they're effective against the 99% of people that either don't understand this stuff and/or are too lazy to bother figuring it out.

[gerg]

Can't read the damn article! I don't subscribe to the Canberra Times....it doesn't sufficiently reflect my hard right life view back to me.

Anybody with a modicum of technical nous can get at the article's content for free, and perfectly legitimately without any dodgy shenanigans. I'll PM you some instructions.

Most news site paywalls are a joke, but they're effective against the 99% of people that either don't understand this stuff and/or are too lazy to bother figuring it out.

Meh, why go to the effort when it's the same old drivel from 'poor hard done by' Todd.

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[GreenMachine]

Cry me a river.
Let me get my violin.

My thoughts exactly.
How tough can life be when your getting paid to play football.
Pissed his career up the wall...we’ll close enough at least.

[BJ]

Todd never properly fulfilled a contract at any club he was at. Can’t blame the Raiders for all those issues.

I don’t think he’s ever seriously taken responsibility for any of his mistakes. Whenever he shows some contrition, he follows it up another backhanded comment.

[Seiffert82]

Yeah, he had problems before he played FG with us, and those problems continued at every club he's played with since.

I have no doubt his negative influence on the playing group flowed through to Dugan and Goodwin and ultimately onto Ferguson. His presence literally set us back a decade as the club did everything it could to sort him out. For a club he loved, he took us for granted and treated us like ****.

[BadnMean]

A bit of a generalisation but not quite every single but the vast majority of talented kids in every single football club. professional or otherwise trains up with the seniors and comes through the ranks as a teen... The vast majority of them don't make the choices Todd made.

He crapped all over this club. They were his choices, Canberra and Goulburn are small places and lets just say not everyone with Todds upbringing was a total tool. He gets some sympathy because he crapped all over his own life worse than he managed to on the club, who basically let him go out of exasperation. He really didn't leave them a choice.

Parts of that interview suggest he will probably never really "get it", but I hope he cleans his act up.

[papabear]

I regret him not playing his entire career green.
This decade goes entirely differently for this team and fan base if TC was capable of keeping himself out of trouble.

I was thinking about that just as I hit send. Sliding doors moment, had he said yes to the 5 point plan, and stayed off the grog, he would have helped us out in some dark McCrone times.

Even now, in this side, we’re a stronger squad. Probably wouldn’t have a Dally M though

Mccrone is unfairly maligned on here. Yes he wasn’t a first grade type talent but he kept us from Herbert and tbh tried his guts out every single minute of every game.

[BJ]

I regret him not playing his entire career green.
This decade goes entirely differently for this team and fan base if TC was capable of keeping himself out of trouble.

I was thinking about that just as I hit send. Sliding doors moment, had he said yes to the 5 point plan, and stayed off the grog, he would have helped us out in some dark McCrone times.

Even now, in this side, we’re a stronger squad. Probably wouldn’t have a Dally M though

Mccrone is unfairly maligned on here. Yes he wasn’t a first grade type talent but he kept us from Herbert and tbh tried his guts out every single minute of every game.

Yep he trained hard, made a consistent effort and never did anything untoward to fans or the club.

[Roger Kenworthy]

Let's be honest - if we had a computer simulator running 100 TC career timelines I'm pretty sure zero end with him winning Premierships here. It just wasn't ever going to happen. He's a player out of his time, would have been a superstar pre-1990s.

[Botman]

I can’t agree with that.
The guy had the talent to be an out and out superstar in his time. Hence the dally m medal

I don’t know how many times a computer sim might have us lifting the trophy with TC at the club. But I remain steadfast in my view if Todd Carney was a clean skin, we’d have a title and he’d be an Australian halfback with 20+ caps to his name

[FuiFui BradBrad]

I can’t agree with that.
The guy had the talent to be an out and out superstar in his time. Hence the dally m medal

I don’t know how many times a computer sim might have us lifting the trophy with TC at the club. But I remain steadfast in my view if Todd Carney was a clean skin, we’d have a title and he’d be an Australian halfback with 20+ caps to his name

That was the point I was trying to make, maybe a bit harsh on McCrone. Yeah Josh tried his guts out, and the effort was there, but there were also weeks where he was falconing front rowers and we were wanting him out.

Sliding Doors moment and Todd turned his life around, Josh wouldn’t likely be making the squad

[dubby]

Todd is brilliantly talented.

But he and Campo in the halves was never going to work.

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[Roger Kenworthy]

I can’t agree with that.
The guy had the talent to be an out and out superstar in his time. Hence the dally m medal

I don’t know how many times a computer sim might have us lifting the trophy with TC at the club. But I remain steadfast in my view if Todd Carney was a clean skin, we’d have a title and he’d be an Australian halfback with 20+ caps to his name

There's no alternative reality where he keeps it all together for 5+ years is my point. I actually don't mind him, but one read of his book and you see he's on another planet.

[Botman]

There's no alternative reality where he keeps it all together for 5+ years is my point. I actually don't mind him, but one read of his book and you see he's on another planet.

Yeah that's probably fair.

[Peter]

I don’t know how many times a computer sim might have us lifting the trophy with TC at the club. But I remain steadfast in my view if Todd Carney was a clean skin, we’d have a title and he’d be an Australian halfback with 20+ caps to his name

I disagree. He was not breaking into any test squad that had Johns, Lockyer, JT or Cronk as mainstays, no matter how good he was. Maybe 20 NSW caps in an era where we suffered for so long with rubbish halves but that’s about it.