Nick Cotric takes early plea, suspended three weeks

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Canberra Raiders centre Nick Cotric facing three to four weeks on the sideline after dangerous tackle charge

Raiders centre Nick Cotric has been charged with a grade three dangerous throw by the NRL match review committee for his tackle on Tim Lafai in Sunday's win over the Dragons.

If he takes the early plea he will miss three matches. If he fights the charge and loses he will miss four matches.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/07/15/cot ... ow-charge/

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3 weeks is ok. I say cop it. Could easily have been more.


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Yeah, i dont want to hear **** about how the Raiders get treated by the MRC again :lol:

The club should enter the early plea on that right this second before the media get too into this and the reactionary NRL reconsider. 3 weeks for that is, IMO, incredibly soft.

But im pumped for us and im pumped for Nic.
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Dusty wrote: July 15, 2019, 10:29 am Grade 3 dangerous throw.
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take the 3 or challenge grading only if you must
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What Wade Graham said was because Cotrics feet came off the ground he was not able to 'care' for the tackled player. So in my mind that makes it careless.
Yes Im obviously biased but if the Raiders can successfully argue a downgrade and take the early plea, he might get away with 1-2 weeks.
Frankly I hope its downgraded to a grade 1 and with an early plea he misses no games, but thats probably a bit of wishful thinking.
Id like to see the Raiders really get on the front foot and attack the charge. We dont often fight these but seeing some players come away with fines for some pretty bad offences this season... we should have a red hot go at it.
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Correct charge. If he wasn’t sent off, he would probably have it worse. Maybe contest grading, but 3 weeks means he is back for Roosters/Storm.
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3 weeks is a fantastic outcome seeing as this week is the Tigers bye.
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Charged as a dangerous throw as sticky called it, rather than a spear tackle
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Isn't a spear tackle just a dangerous throw??
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Take the plea and run with it...

The commentariat will bicker about it, call for harsher penalties, and the next lifting tackle will get 8 weeks... but that's another teams problem.
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Leeroy Jenkins wrote: July 15, 2019, 10:55 am Take the plea and run with it...

The commentariat will bicker about it, call for harsher penalties, and the next lifting tackle will get 8 weeks... but that's another teams problem.
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He got the absolute highest penalty you can get without being referred straight to the judiciary.
Grade 3 is the highest with 500 points. He can get 25% reduction for early plea, which bring him to 375 points - 3 weeks and 75 carry over points.
Its' only his good record and zero priors that drops it into the 3 weeks range. Someone with similar previous offence would be getting 50% on top of the 500, so 750, and if they had carry over points of say 60 then they would be hitting 800 points and 8 weeks off.
If it's a non-similar offence the loading is 20%
He deserves the 3 weeks because he isn't a dirty player and has zero priors.
Pointless arguing a reduction to Grade 2 and risking the 25% discount for early plea. Best case 2 weeks, lose and it's 5.
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I dunno how you can argue it either, it's one of the worst spear tackle/dangerous throw/whatever the **** you want to call it I've seen in a long, long time. My gut feel was 4 to 6 weeks, so I'm absolutely stoked with 3!!
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Beejay wrote: July 15, 2019, 10:59 am He got the absolute highest penalty you can get without being referred straight to the judiciary.
Grade 3 is the highest with 500 points. He can get 25% reduction for early plea, which bring him to 375 points - 3 weeks and 75 carry over points.
Its' only his good record and zero priors that drops it into the 3 weeks range. Someone with similar previous offence would be getting 50% on top of the 500, so 750, and if they had carry over points of say 60 then they would be hitting 800 points and 8 weeks off.
If it's a non-similar offence the loading is 20%
He deserves the 3 weeks because he isn't a dirty player and has zero priors.
Pointless arguing a reduction to Grade 2 and risking the 25% discount for early plea. Best case 2 weeks, lose and it's 4.
Yeah, ok. That actually does make a bit of sense then
It's a 5 week charge, and if you've got history, 7. Which is the range most of us felt it landed.
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The NRL has like ten articles on this tackle, but none on that dead **** Roosters player headbutting someone on purpose...
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According to an LU tweet, he also gets -21 points discount for the send off (1 pt per minute)

Which is interesting, i had no idea that was a thing
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They just said on Foxsports our boy Nick is facing 3 weeks.

Take that and run Donny...
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Leeroy Jenkins wrote:Take the plea and run with it...

The commentariat will bicker about it, call for harsher penalties, and the next lifting tackle will get 8 weeks... but that's another teams problem.
Yup. It’ll either be that or we go another 24 years without seeing a player sent off for one... who knows!

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PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:03 am According to an LU tweet, he also gets -21 points discount for the send off (1 pt per minute)

Which is interesting, i had no idea that was a thing
Which is interesting. If he was sent off in the first 4 minutes, he could get away with 2 weeks!
Imagine the outcry :lol:
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Beejay wrote:He got the absolute highest penalty you can get without being referred straight to the judiciary.
Grade 3 is the highest with 500 points. He can get 25% reduction for early plea, which bring him to 375 points - 3 weeks and 75 carry over points.
Its' only his good record and zero priors that drops it into the 3 weeks range. Someone with similar previous offence would be getting 50% on top of the 500, so 750, and if they had carry over points of say 60 then they would be hitting 800 points and 8 weeks off.
If it's a non-similar offence the loading is 20%
He deserves the 3 weeks because he isn't a dirty player and has zero priors.
Pointless arguing a reduction to Grade 2 and risking the 25% discount for early plea. Best case 2 weeks, lose and it's 5.
Ah okay, this explains it well.. the next player will cop a worse penalty for it then as they’re not likely to have a record as clean as Cotric’s
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FYI

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Beejay wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:06 am
PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:03 am According to an LU tweet, he also gets -21 points discount for the send off (1 pt per minute)

Which is interesting, i had no idea that was a thing
Which is interesting. If he was sent off in the first 4 minutes, he could get away with 2 weeks!
Imagine the outcry :lol:
Sounds reasonable though, when you think about it, because he's missed a whole game PLUS his team has had to play with 12 men for a whole game.

If that's the rule it sounds like a good one, but I've also never heard of that.
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Tigers, Panthers and Warriors is a pretty soft schedule to be missing a major strike weapon
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Beejay wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:09 am FYI

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Thanks Beej, that clears it up. Like I thought, there is no spear tackle, so he basically copped the worst kind of dangerous throw.

That's how I saw it too.
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If this is true regarding the points deceasing by 1 point a minute for the send off then at worst he is facing 4 weeks if he fights and losses. If we didn't play the Roosters in 4 weeks I would possibly look to try and get a downgrade, you are only risking a week.
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PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 10:41 am Yeah, i dont want to hear **** about how the Raiders get treated by the MRC again :lol:

The club should enter the early plea on that right this second before the media get too into this and the reactionary NRL reconsider. 3 weeks for that is, IMO, incredibly soft.

But im pumped for us and im pumped for Nic.
He's been charged with the most serious grading for a Dangerous Throw. MRC basically saying that's as bad as they can be. I don't see that as "incredibly soft".

FTR I think the grading is right.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:13 am
PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 10:41 am Yeah, i dont want to hear **** about how the Raiders get treated by the MRC again :lol:

The club should enter the early plea on that right this second before the media get too into this and the reactionary NRL reconsider. 3 weeks for that is, IMO, incredibly soft.

But im pumped for us and im pumped for Nic.
He's been charged with the most serious grading for a Dangerous Throw. MRC basically saying that's as bad as they can be. I don't see that as "incredibly soft".

FTR I think the grading is right.

Yeah i think Beejay actually breaks that down quite well and the charge makes sense
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PigRickman wrote:Tigers, Panthers and Warriors is a pretty soft schedule to be missing a major strike weapon
Panthers have won their last 6 games beating Eels, Sea Eagles, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Warriors and Titans

Warriors game is a 5 day turnaround in New Zealand

As for tigers... if Taikarangi can score 3 tries at right centre against them, imagine what Cotric would’ve done!

Raiders have a very tough run home coming up
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Sid wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:16 am
PigRickman wrote:Tigers, Panthers and Warriors is a pretty soft schedule to be missing a major strike weapon
Panthers have won their last 6 games beating Eels, Sea Eagles, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Warriors and Titans

Warriors game is a 5 day turnaround in New Zealand

As for tigers... if Taikarangi can score 3 tries at right centre against them, imagine what Cotric would’ve done!

Raiders have a very tough run home coming up
I dont trust Penrith to be consistent. i've watched them all year and they've a hot mess. I think we can take them without Cotric
Same with the Warriors, we're top 4 team playing a squad coming 12th.

There is no reason why we cant go 3/3 without Cotric. We're a better team than each of the units we're facing.
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PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:20 am
Sid wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:16 am
PigRickman wrote:Tigers, Panthers and Warriors is a pretty soft schedule to be missing a major strike weapon
Panthers have won their last 6 games beating Eels, Sea Eagles, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Warriors and Titans

Warriors game is a 5 day turnaround in New Zealand

As for tigers... if Taikarangi can score 3 tries at right centre against them, imagine what Cotric would’ve done!

Raiders have a very tough run home coming up
I dont trust Penrith to be consistent. i've watched them all year and they've a hot mess. I think we can take them without Cotric
Same with the Warriors, we're top 4 team playing a squad coming 12th.

There is no reason why we cant go 3/3 without Cotric. We're a better team than each of the units we're facing.
Haha agreed 1000%... what's with all the excuses, Sid??
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3 weeks is a win tbh
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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The Rickman wrote:
PigRickman wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:20 am
Sid wrote: July 15, 2019, 11:16 am
PigRickman wrote:Tigers, Panthers and Warriors is a pretty soft schedule to be missing a major strike weapon
Panthers have won their last 6 games beating Eels, Sea Eagles, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Warriors and Titans

Warriors game is a 5 day turnaround in New Zealand

As for tigers... if Taikarangi can score 3 tries at right centre against them, imagine what Cotric would’ve done!

Raiders have a very tough run home coming up
I dont trust Penrith to be consistent. i've watched them all year and they've a hot mess. I think we can take them without Cotric
Same with the Warriors, we're top 4 team playing a squad coming 12th.

There is no reason why we cant go 3/3 without Cotric. We're a better team than each of the units we're facing.
Haha agreed 1000%... what's with all the excuses, Sid??
For sure I think Raiders can win all 3 without Cotric too.. I just don’t think those teams will be as much of a push over as a quick look at the ladder might suggest to some that they will be for the reasons I’ve stated above... plus don’t ever discount the Benji factor against the Raiders! Haha
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**** off with the Benji factor. **** that garbage really **** me.

We have a CNK, Wighton, Hodgson, Papalii, Whitehead, Bateman factor
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