2019 Rd 15 V Eels: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Raiders 1-12
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Can somebody ask Ben what kind of pre-game stuff Raiders will be holding in Darwin

e.g. meet the players and if there will be a public training run held?
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RTW wrote: June 24, 2019, 7:18 pm I would leave Papalii at home. He doesn’t need to travel to Darwin.
As others have mentioned we've got the bye coming up but if you're concerned about wearing him out we might see the same prop rotation as last origin with papa on the bench. Though with the longer turn around I think we'll see him start.
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Sid wrote: June 25, 2019, 9:46 am Can somebody ask Ben what kind of pre-game stuff Raiders will be holding in Darwin

e.g. meet the players and if there will be a public training run held?
A friend of mine contacted the club and was told as this is an away game for the raiders/fly in/fly out 24 hour gig that there will be no open trainings or meet n greets.
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Canberra Raiders rising star emerges as Dally M Medal contender

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has always had an eye for talent, but the unearthing of star fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad is impressive even by his standards.

"I'm really stoked that Ricky has stuck by me through some of the games I've had this year. He's always given me a bit of guidance and wanting me to improve and hopefully I can keep doing that and build off what's already been laid."

Read more: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/canberra-f ... e81d392916

VIDEO: CNK: It's a four-point game this weekend: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... s-weekend/

Five Things: Raiders v Eels: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... rs-v-eels/
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BadnMean wrote: June 25, 2019, 12:02 pm
Sid wrote: June 25, 2019, 9:46 am Can somebody ask Ben what kind of pre-game stuff Raiders will be holding in Darwin

e.g. meet the players and if there will be a public training run held?
A friend of mine contacted the club and was told as this is an away game for the raiders/fly in/fly out 24 hour gig that there will be no open trainings or meet n greets.
Thanks, I know teams tend to do less at their 'away' games, though a lot of people in Darwin don't seem to realise this and praise the Eels for doing player signings at Mindil beach etc. while the away team cops flak for not doing many public appearances
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on the plus side it has been cold (for Darwin) this week
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NRL Team: Raiders V Eels

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Canberra Raiders V Parramatta Eels
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The Canberra Raiders have named their squad for Saturday night’s match against the Parramatta Eels at TIO Stadium in Darwin.

Josh Hodgson and Corey Horsburgh return to the Raiders line-up from injury, with Hodgson starting at hooker and Horsburgh on the bench.

The inclusions see Siliva Havili move to the bench and Tom Starling drop out of the squad, while Horsburgh pushes Emre Guler off the bench and into the extended squad.

Sebastian Kris has been named at centre to replace Nick Cotric, with Michael Oldfield named on the extended bench.

Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Bailey Simonsson
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Sebastian Kris
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson (C)
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Siliva Havili
15. Corey Horsburgh
16. Sia Soliola
17. Ryan Sutton

18. Sam Williams
19. Emre Guler
20. Royce Hunt
21. Michael Oldfield

Parramatta Eels

1. Clint Gutherson (c)
2. Maika Sivo
3. Brad Takairangi
4. Josh Hoffman
5. Blake Ferguson
6. Dylan Brown
7. Mitch Moses
8. Kane Evans
9. Reed Mahoney
10. Junior Paulo
11. Shaun Lane
12. Manu Ma’u
13. Nathan Brown

14. Jaeman Salmon
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17. Marata Niukore

18. Daniel Alvaro
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20. George Jennings
21. Will Smith

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greeneyed wrote:Canberra Raiders rising star emerges as Dally M Medal contender

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has always had an eye for talent, but the unearthing of star fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad is impressive even by his standards.

"I'm really stoked that Ricky has stuck by me through some of the games I've had this year. He's always given me a bit of guidance and wanting me to improve and hopefully I can keep doing that and build off what's already been laid."

Read more: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/canberra-f ... e81d392916

VIDEO: CNK: It's a four-point game this weekend: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... s-weekend/

Five Things: Raiders v Eels: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... rs-v-eels/
there it is, the old 4 point game quote
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Hahaha the "four point game" quote really is silly, because by that logic if we lose, it's a two point loss.
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you still get 2pts for the bye - which also grinds my gears just forget bye pts everyone gets them anyway so they make no difference
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bonehead wrote: June 25, 2019, 3:54 pm you still get 2pts for the bye - which also grinds my gears just forget bye pts everyone gets them anyway so they make no difference
I absolutely agree with this 100%. Why give two points for the bye when everyone gets it??

Might as well give every team 17 billion points for the bye.
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it mucks up the ladder too
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Keep in mind though that if we didn't award 2 points for the bye the problem isn't really solved and the table would still be confusing. Because assuming you get 2 byes in the year, that's effectively a week where you don't have the opportunity to get 2 points where the other teams do.
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Kris in for Oldfield/Cotric
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Azza wrote:Keep in mind though that if we didn't award 2 points for the bye the problem isn't really solved and the table would still be confusing. Because assuming you get 2 byes in the year, that's effectively a week where you don't have the opportunity to get 2 points where the other teams do.
but at least you only see points earned, teams with 8 wins should be above teams with 7 for example
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Azza wrote: June 25, 2019, 4:05 pm Keep in mind though that if we didn't award 2 points for the bye the problem isn't really solved and the table would still be confusing. Because assuming you get 2 byes in the year, that's effectively a week where you don't have the opportunity to get 2 points where the other teams do.
But I makes no difference, like boney said, so why give everybody two points?? Why not just give them fifty?
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bonehead wrote: June 25, 2019, 4:09 pm
Azza wrote:Keep in mind though that if we didn't award 2 points for the bye the problem isn't really solved and the table would still be confusing. Because assuming you get 2 byes in the year, that's effectively a week where you don't have the opportunity to get 2 points where the other teams do.
but at least you only see points earned, teams with 8 wins should be above teams with 7 for example
Exactly. Points for byes is stupid.
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Yeah I don't really mind whether we give none, fifty, or two. I'm just saying there's no perfect answer.
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I wonder why Oldfield is continually left out? He's a reasonable player. Admittedly, not a great center.

I think I just answered my own question.

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Let's just agree to disagree, Azza.
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The Rickman wrote: June 25, 2019, 4:13 pm Let's just agree to disagree, Azza.
I don't agree to that
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OFFICIAL RAIDERS vs EELS ROUND 14

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Bailey Simonsson
3. Jarrod Croker (c)
4. Sebastian Kris
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Josh Papalii
9. Josh Hodgson (c)
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joseph Tapine

Interchange
14. Siliva Havili
15. Corey Horsburgh
16. Iosia Soliola
17. Ryan Sutton

Reserves
18. Sam Williams
19. Emre Guler
20. Royce Hunt
21. Michael Oldbeard
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Starling not even on the extended reserves so obviously no doubts about Hodgo's availability.
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Well done to Kris for winning the spot over Oldfield. He hasn't looked out of his depth in firsts which I had somewhat expected.

Oldy is very unlucky, I wouldn't be surprised if he does eventually look elsewhere again.
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Does Kris play or is Oldie the classic Sticky smokey swooping in from the 21 jersey on game day? 🤔
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Consistent defense and familiarity probably got him there. Oldie was good last time he was there. He brings more energy than Kris.
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Old School Green wrote:Does Kris play or is Oldie the classic Sticky smokey swooping in from the 21 jersey on game day? Image
Ricky has certainly done less smokescreens this season than he used to. The Sezer for Williams game was about the only one of any note.
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I don't think Ricky is going to run smokescreen involving naming a rookie at the start of the week and the yanking him- you don't put a rookie in that position with their friends and family all expecting them to play their 2nd ever start or whatever all week.

So Kris will play. Will be good to get another look at him in a more settled/close to full strength side. He hasn't been much more than steady so far.

Interesting Sutton hasn't been able to force Lui out of the starting side yet. I thought that was coming.
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Raiders assistant coach Andrew McFadden has revealed they spent about 80 per cent of the pre-season focussing on being more aggressive in defence - and they've now produced their best defensive start to the season since 1995.

"We want to be a lot more positive. Last year we were kind of a little bit too passive at times, so we wanted to have a more aggressive approach," he said.

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Canberra Raiders fly physio to Darwin to ready Origin duo

Raiders sports scientist Tom Christian joined Jack Wighton and Josh Papalii in Darwin on Tuesday to get them ready for Friday's captain's run.

"I'm sending up our sport scientist, who's an accredited physio, [Tuesday] morning," Ricky Stuart said. "He'll put them through rehab, a little bit of work and they'll just have a little bit of time off until we get there Thursday."

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Azza wrote: June 25, 2019, 4:05 pm Keep in mind though that if we didn't award 2 points for the bye the problem isn't really solved and the table would still be confusing. Because assuming you get 2 byes in the year, that's effectively a week where you don't have the opportunity to get 2 points where the other teams do.
I think its a psychological thing for most clubs. Say two teams are level pegging coming into the first bye round. If there are no points for a bye and one of the clubs has a bye, then that side falls behind if the other side wins and there is nothing they can do about it. The following week the side with the 'no points bye' then has to play catch up on the side which is then ahead on the competition table. It changes the mindset of the club which is behind through no fault of their own, simply the draw. Yes it evens out later in the season but for the rounds between the draws one side is disadvantaged on the ladder. I hope they keep the two points for a bye. Particularly in Round 16.
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Interesting the team can’t fly to Darwin early to acclimatise... because of the football department cap. Couldn’t afford to do that and fly to Auckland early for the Warriors match, straight from Sydney, due to the short turnaround.
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It's expected to be 25 degrees, 65% humidity at the time of kickoff
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greeneyed wrote: June 25, 2019, 5:16 pm Interesting the team can’t fly to Darwin early to acclimatise... because of the football department cap. Couldn’t afford to do that and fly to Auckland early for the Warriors match, straight from Sydney, due to the short turnaround.
This is a bit of posturing surely. We have until 2020 to get under the cap and even if we don't it's a soft cap with a 30% tax.
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