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PigRickman wrote: July 2, 2019, 10:29 pm ...the idea that we are better in attack without Hodgson is asinine and anyone peddling that **** should be sentenced to 400 hours of watching Glenn Buttriss, Travis Waddell, Alan Tongue and what ever other **** EDIT we had play the position in this turn of the centuary before Hodgson.
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I dont know if is the go in 2019, nor do I think mocking Alan Tongue entirely appropriate.
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First point... fair.
Second... i watched him play hooker, and i watched the hooker rotation for the years around that time. It's worthy of mockery
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The only advantage the team had when they played Alan Tongue at hooker was that he wasn't Glenn Buttriss.

That's it, absolutely nothing else.
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Alan Tongue was just a player picked in that position doing his best as he always did.

Again its not alan tongues fault the club couldnt build a roster for ****. For a second rower playing out of position he was limited but he did what was asked.
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papabear wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:15 am Alan Tongue was just a player picked in that position doing his best as he always did.

Again its not alan tongues fault the club couldnt build a roster for ****. For a second rower playing out of position he was limited but he did what was asked.
I don't think anybody said it was Alan Tongue's fault did they? Alan Tongue was a legend of the club, always gave 100% and deserves all the respect a Raiders fan can manage.

Saying all that, he had no business being at dummy half for an NRL team, same as Glenny B.
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**** theres some wierd arguments going on on here. This whole forum should be moved to the lime lounge.
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simo wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:28 am **** theres some wierd arguments going on on here. This whole forum should be moved to the lime lounge.
Yes!! Then we can bring our segments back to the main forum, where they belong!
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The Rickman wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:56 am
simo wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:28 am **** theres some wierd arguments going on on here. This whole forum should be moved to the lime lounge.
Yes!! Then we can bring our segments back to the main forum, where they belong!
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How is Frank the cat anyway?
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Northern Raider wrote: July 16, 2019, 12:56 pm How is Frank the cat anyway?
reptar had to get him put down after GE cancelled his segments

Just couldn't afford his food anymore :(
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The Rickman wrote: July 16, 2019, 12:58 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 16, 2019, 12:56 pm How is Frank the cat anyway?
reptar had to get him put down after GE cancelled his segments

Just couldn't afford his food anymore :(
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Not true, Frank is alive and well, and enjoying watching the Raiders this year. Image
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That's an old photo!!
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The Rickman wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:19 am
papabear wrote: July 16, 2019, 11:15 am Alan Tongue was just a player picked in that position doing his best as he always did.

Again its not alan tongues fault the club couldnt build a roster for ****. For a second rower playing out of position he was limited but he did what was asked.
I don't think anybody said it was Alan Tongue's fault did they? Alan Tongue was a legend of the club, always gave 100% and deserves all the respect a Raiders fan can manage.

Saying all that, he had no business being at dummy half for an NRL team, same as Glenny B.
Both True, but thats what our club did.

I also think hodgson should be compared to what he is capable of. Kind of like BJ Leilua and Jack Wighton, shouldnt be compared to weakest 6 or centre ever played in green, they should be judged on their efforts and improvements.

Hodgson is an all time canberra great if he can lead us to premiership glory, thus the criticism of him isnt against an average number 9 or a poor one, it is against the number nine hodgson is capable of being to take us to a premiership or thereabouts - see our performance on the weekend for example (noting the opposition didnt put in a top performance).

The other thing with Hodgson and our dummy half play is, it isn't about skill / physicality or speed, imo it is just game plan and decision making which imo for a smart footy brain that hodgson is, should be an easy thing for the club to get right.
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Haha I think you’ve taken this discussion a LOOONG way away from what Pigricknick was originally saying here, papa

That’s quite an achievement
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reptar wrote: July 16, 2019, 1:26 pm Not true, Frank is alive and well, and enjoying watching the Raiders this year. Image
Blink twice if you're not OK, frank.
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The Rickman wrote:That's an old photo!!
Need a photo of Frank holding today’s newspaper!
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gangrenous wrote:
The Rickman wrote:That's an old photo!!
Need a photo of Frank holding today’s newspaper!
How about I attempt to take one of him watching this weekend's game? He is a cat though, he might think I'm behaving crazily and not participate
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Can't tell if Max or Frank

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Is there a stat for one one one steals in 2019? If there isn’t, there should be given some of the useless stats that are carried. Hodgson has 4 in the last 2 games, I feel like Hodgson and Munted would be well above the rest for steals?
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Sid wrote: July 21, 2019, 10:13 am Is there a stat for one one one steals in 2019? If there isn’t, there should be given some of the useless stats that are carried. Hodgson has 4 in the last 2 games, I feel like Hodgson and Munted would be well above the rest for steals?

Id put Matt Orford as the number one stealer
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I'm loving his steals. It's the modern hooker version of the old school hookers rake back- involves spotting a player who gets lazy in the tackle, waiting waiting waiting and picking your moment, then boom! Execute and steal momentum back. Same idea. Shades of Walters.

I'm waiting for opposition coaches to come up with a ploy to counter it... dropping/throwing the ball so it looks like a knock on? Headbutting/elbowing when he gets in there? Both seem high risk.
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dubby wrote:Can't tell if Max or Frank

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Is he still monster sized?
reptar wrote:
dubby wrote:Can't tell if Max or Frank

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dubby wrote:Is he still monster sized?
reptar wrote:
dubby wrote:Can't tell if Max or Frank

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John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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Another superb game from hodgson today.

Massive one on one steal.

I am going to move this on slightly so it is not just about the dummy half work.

Two key plays put us under way more pressure then we needed to be against the tigers and something we are going to have to improve come finals time and towards the pointy end of the season.

We played short to soliola who knocked on, not the best pass but when you spend ten minutes without the ball you need to put a bit of pressure on the other side to take a bit of the run out of them, this knock on really hurt.

5th tackle play to go down the short side to JC, I know the temptation when your dummy half you can generally effect the play more and and it is safer going down the short side, but really on the 5th we needed a repeat set or atleast an attempt at one. IMO this was weak in most of our attacking sets in the attack zone in the second half and when you only have a few of them its really noticable. We played to short to often and were very predictable, we need sezer and wighton to touch the ball on the last and atleast once each in every attacking set (1 touch prior to the last atleast, preferably more).

If those to plays are fixed imo we sit a lot less nervous through the rest of the game but in the end it gave us a chance to test our defence which sezer and JC stood up in a massive way.

Not an on the field error, but imo again hodgson would have been more effective off with a breather for us, i mean really the first ten minutes of the second half we were defending anyway, hes defending in the middle using a lot of gas which doesn't help us as a side, I still feel as if his decision making is declining as the game goes on which would be remedied by just a little bit more rest.
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You could feel that Soliola knock on coming. He was starting to blow. Literally the set before I was saying it's time to get him off. We just missed the balance between interchanging when we planned to and keeping the guy on because we're on top and he was going well. Excellent game by him otherwise.
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He was huge bar that knock on, which you can forgive. Easily top 3 games for the club IMO

I'd be happy to keep starting him and manage papas minutes leading up to finals

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Great game again from hodgson.

I cant really be critical on anything he did, I can remember 5th tackle decisions being bad, he hit sezer almost everytime or put a kick in.

Our first try was the prototype of how he should play when attacking the red zone, he hit sezer twice on wide balls before going short himself, keep up this mix of going wide to sezer/wighton and short to a forward and we are so so much stronger.
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