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The Raiders broke a three game losing streak in Round 12, a narrow 12-10 victory over the last placed Canterbury Bulldogs. They again play in Sydney in Round 13, against the Wests Tigers at the brand new Western Sydney Stadium. The Raiders will have their State of Origin representatives available... but they will have played just two days earlier. The other positive is that both Joe Tapine and John Bateman have now made successful returns from injury - but Canberra still has the likes of Josh Hodgson, Jordan Rapana and Joey Leilua on the sidelines.

So who should line up for the Green Machine next weekend? Tell us your team here and see how you go in comparison to the official squad when announced. We will include the official line ups in the first post of this thread as soon as they're available.

OFFICIAL SQUADS

Canberra Raiders

1. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Bailey Simonsson
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Nick Cotric
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Jack Wighton
7. Sam Williams
8. Josh Papalii
9. Siliva Havili
10. Dunamis Lui
11. John Bateman
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Joe Tapine

14. Tom Starling
15. Emre Guler
16. Sia Soliola
17. Ryan Sutton

18. Aidan Sezer
19. Royce Hunt
20. Michael Oldfield
21. Sebastian Kris
22. JJ Collins

Injury/Suspension

Corey Horsburgh (Elbow) 15-17
Hudson Young (Suspended) Round 19
Josh Hodgson (Thumb) Round 18-20
Joey Leilua (Neck) Indefinite
Luke Bateman (Knee) Round 13-14
Brad Abbey (Knee) Season

Wests Tigers

1. Moses Mbye
2. Robert Jennings
3. Paul Momirovski
4. Esan Marsters
5. Corey Thompson
6. Benji Marshall
7. Luke Brooks
8. Ben Matulino
9. Robbie Farah
10. Alex Twal
11. Ryan Matterson
12. Chris McQueen
13. Matt Eisenhuth

14. Jacob Liddle
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Josh Aloiai
17. Michael Chee-Kam

18. David Nofoaluma
19. Elijah Taylor
20. Chris Lawrence
21. Mahe Fonua

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I am guessing with the Origin boys back we won't be allowed to play Starling. Maybe Rapana but guessing not, will be an interesting 21 man squad Ricky picks considering three players need to get through Origin.
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I would go Sezer at 14. He has played a bit of hooker before.


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1. CNK
2. Simmonsen
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalli
9. Havili
10. Horsburgh
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Starling
15. Sutton
16. Soliola
17. Lui

Assuming Young gets a week.
Tapine to continue in the middle for another week. Looked dangerous in that 2nd stint.
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Not sure that we’ll have our origin players back next week since we play on the Friday. Maybe wighton since he’ll be off the bench on Wednesday. With that in mind:

1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Kris (Cotric)
5. Oldfield/ Rapana??
6. Wighton (Hingano)
7. Sezer
8. Horsburg (Papalii)
9. Havili
10. Lui
11. Bateman
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Starling
15. Young (Horsburg)
16. Soliola
17. Sutton




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Papalii will play..

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1. CNK
2. Oldfield
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papailii
9. Havilii
10. Horse
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

14. Hingano
15. Sia
16. Lui
17. Sutton


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Must be some chance Rapana is back.
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I reckon Cotric will have a ton of work to do Wednesday and would be the most likely not to back up.
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We are doing pretty well this year considering we don't have a 1st grade standard halfback... Once we get that sorted we will be a top side
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I would split Tapine and Papalii up in the rotation. We lost the middle battle when we had Sutton, Soliola and Young up the guts imo.

Sutton not as effective as a bench prop either it seems.

CNK
Simonsson
Croker
Cotric (Kris)
Oldfield/Rapana
Wighton
Sezer
Lui
Havili
Horsburgh
Bateman
Whitehead
Tapine

Starling
Papalii (Guler)
Sutton
Soliola

Can’t see Young dodging suspension.

Papalii bench is solely post Origin. If he’s good to start then I’d bench Tapine and have him and Sutton start where Sutton has been more effective.

Oldfield v Simonsson is a really tough one. Oldfield is an old pro and hasn’t put a foot wrong. BS has also been sensational and seems a bit more naturally suited to the left once Rapana is back though imo. With Leilua out and our attack being one dimensional I think when Rapana is back he needs to be gone the locense to roam. Whitehead/Bateman and Cotric can slide
One out when he does do.

We miss Leilua immeasurably. The chances he creates in attack despite his half just can’t be replicated so until we have a good half to partner Wighton we need to manufacture something imo. The other option is Bateman roaming but that’s harder to do from second row which is more rigid in the structure.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I'm guessing it won't happen but Hingano deserves a shot, the other two haven't got what we need. He wasn't given a go in the halves and deserves a shot.

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1. CNK
2. Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Oldfield/Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Havili
10. Horsburgh
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

14. Starling
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Sutton

To be honest, I wouldn't have Starling in my team but I wouldn't mind seeing him getting another run. Neither of the halves impressed me but of the two I'd have to pick Sezer. I also wouldn't mind it if Starling dropped out for Sezer at hooker and Williams to remain at halfback. Whatever the case, these three make up the weakest point of our possible 17 imo.

Oldfield has been really solid but I think I'd prefer to see a bit more of Simonsson to see how he can go. I have Horsburgh starting in my side but wouldn't mind seeing him switched with Lui for better balance in the rotation.
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gergreg wrote: June 2, 2019, 8:55 am I'm guessing it won't happen but Hingano deserves a shot, the other two haven't got what we need. He wasn't given a go in the halves and deserves a shot.

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I have to agree with this. I don't see it happening either but neither Williams nor Sezer are putting their hand up. Give Hingano at least a game or two to show what he's got.

My ideal team would actually be the team I named above but 7. Hingano 14. Sezer, Starling out.
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If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
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edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
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Raiders_Pat wrote:
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
If Rapana is back Simonsson gets the left wing spot for me. Younger and more upside than Oldfield.


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Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:22 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
I'd be playing him in place of Starling, who probably won't get the exception anyway.
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Danaman137 wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:28 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote:
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
If Rapana is back Simonsson gets the left wing spot for me. Younger and more upside than Oldfield.


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edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:31 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:22 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
I'd be playing him in place of Starling, who probably won't get the exception anyway.
I'm not sure if Havili can go 80mins at hooker though
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Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:33 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:31 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:22 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
I'd be playing him in place of Starling, who probably won't get the exception anyway.
I'm not sure if Havili can go 80mins at hooker though
He managed 62, you'd think 65 or 70 is possible maybe 80 if possession is good. Bateman and Simonsson can cover 10 or 15.
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edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:35 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:33 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:31 pm
Raiders_Pat wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:22 pm
edwahu wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:17 pm If Rapana is back if look at Simonsson as the utility
I wouldn't mind this at all if Hodgson wasn't injured. Not sure if there's room though carrying a second hooker. When Simonsson was selected for that role we had Havili playing lock off the bench.
I'd be playing him in place of Starling, who probably won't get the exception anyway.
I'm not sure if Havili can go 80mins at hooker though
He managed 62, you'd think 65 or 70 is possible maybe 80 if possession is good. Bateman and Simonsson can cover 10 or 15.
I wouldn't mind seeing Bateman at hooker for a period actually. You've convinced me
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If Rapana is back:
1. CNK
2. Oldfield
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
9. Havili
10. Horsburgh
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

14. Simonsson
15. Soliola
16. Lui
17. Sutton

As mentioned earlier, I'd prefer to see Hingano get a run at halfback but I just don't see it happening. So the above is my next best team.
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Alternatively Bateman can shovel at 9 for 15-20 mins before you introduce Havili. That could work as it’s when the defense tires a bit that Bateman’s footwork and nous becomes more valuable anyway.
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Horsburgh out with a fractured elbow, 2-3 weeks.

Corey Horsburgh out 2-3 weeks with fractured elbow

Corey Horsburgh will miss 2-3 weeks, after scans revealed a fracture to his elbow. As it is a small fracture, surgery is not required.

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julian87 wrote: June 2, 2019, 12:56 pm Alternatively Bateman can shovel at 9 for 15-20 mins before you introduce Havili. That could work as it’s when the defense tires a bit that Bateman’s footwork and nous becomes more valuable anyway.
I was hoping we'd see this in the Dogs game
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-TW- wrote:Horsburgh out with a fractured elbow, 2-3 weeks.
Not ideal. Guler in.


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Let’s hope the 3 at origin don’t get injured!! The horse will be
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Take 3 considering Young and Horsburgh are out, and if Rapana is back:
1. CNK
2. Oldfield
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Papalii
13. Bateman
10. Lui
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
17. Sutton

9. Havili
14. Simonsson
15. Soliola
16. Guler

Bateman to bash it out at hooker for the first 15-20 before Havili takes over for the rest of the game
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Have to have the Raiders at long odds for this with the outs. If they can find a win it’ll be huge.

I’ll do my bit by tipping Tigers to curse them
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gangrenous wrote: June 2, 2019, 1:19 pm Have to have the Raiders at long odds for this with the outs. If they can find a win it’ll be huge.

I’ll do my bit by tipping Tigers to curse them Image
Origin players usually come back with a spring in their step. Barring injury, that should be a boost for us.
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Oh god, I hope Papa at least can back up strong from Origin. If he can't, we are beyond screwed.

The question mark will be over how the three Origin players back up. We have evidence that Papa can, Jack probably won't get many minutes in Origin so he should still be fresh. Cotric is the big question mark. He's looked a bit tired towards the end of matches in the last few weeks.

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I'm starting to wonder if the Raiders have been cursed by the footy gods, punishment for too much success, too early!
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God, we desperately needed that ugly win against the bulldogs, but need to be about 200% better against the tigers, as they always show up ready to play and will be tough

1. CNK
2. Oldbeard/Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana/Oldbeard
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
15. Soliola
9. Havili
10. Lui
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

8. Papalii
14. Starling
16. Guler
17. Simonsson/Kris

Really starting to run out of troops with Young and Horsburgh out. If Rapana is back I’d love to see Oldbeard go into the 2 and Simonsson come off the bench into that middle of the ruck position about the 65th minute like they intended a few months ago
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The Rickman wrote: June 2, 2019, 1:34 pm God, we desperately needed that ugly win against the bulldogs, but need to be about 200% better against the tigers, as they always show up ready to play and will be tough

1. CNK
2. Oldbeard/Simonsson
3. Croker
4. Cotric
5. Rapana/Oldbeard
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
15. Soliola
9. Havili
10. Lui
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Bateman

8. Papalii
14. Starling
16. Guler
17. Simonsson/Kris

Really starting to run out of troops with Young and Horsburgh out. If Rapana is back I’d love to see Oldbeard go into the 2 and Simonsson come off the bench into that middle of the ruck position about the 65th minute like they intended a few months ago
No room for Sutton you reckon?
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