Jarrod Croker

[The Nickman]

One fell swoop.

Why didn’t you just edit it?

Because you’re always complaining.

I'm only complaining because I luff you so much, big fella

[FuiFui BradBrad]

I just read the article and the quotes. Tahu has no idea and he's drawn that conclusion himself.

They got dropped because they played ****. Whether they should have gotten dropped is a different debate.

Yeah I think TimTam Tahu is trying to stir the pot.

The only way they got dropped for their stance is if they were so invested in it, that it got to their head.

I think it was a knee-jerk reaction also. Probably should have kept him in the side.

[gangrenous]

Or because others in the team/staff gave them grief for it.

Not saying that they did, just that it’s another possibility. You might not feel like giving your all, or have your mind in the game if you don’t feel you have the support of your team.

[Northern Raider]

Or because others in the team/staff gave them grief for it.

Not saying that they did, just that it’s another possibility. You might not feel like giving your all, or have your mind in the game if you don’t feel you have the support of your team.

Or maybe the others in the team didn't give a **** about it. There's zero basis for any of this speculation.

[CJ42]

Left of field here, but would BJ have been playing right centre in game 1 if he was fit?

[The Nickman]

I’m pretty sure there were Queensland players that didn’t sing it either, but we don’t care so much about **** like that


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[The Nickman]

Left of field here, but would BJ have been playing right centre in game 1 if he was fit?

Absolutely he would have, no doubt in my mind.

[RosieThe Raider]

Definitely there were lots of players that didn't sing it. I noticed Josh Papalii didn't and nor did many of the other Pacific Islander players on both sides.

[Northern Raider]

Definitely there were lots of players that didn't sing it. I noticed Josh Papalii didn't and nor did many of the other Pacific Islander players on both sides.

I didn't sing it either. That can be the only reason I didn't get a call up for Game II.

[Sid]

the other 5 players dropped did sing it, but were out of tune

[BJ]

the other 5 players dropped did sing it, but were out of tune

Almost as out of tune as the actual singer employed to perform the anthem.

[Botman]

Left of field here, but would BJ have been playing right centre in game 1 if he was fit?

Absolutely he would have, no doubt in my mind.

Yeah it seems pretty concrete that he was going to partner Latrell in the line up if fit.

[Ultima]

This article and video shows pretty clearly why Mitchell wasn't selected again. With it's title I thought it was going to be garbage but it honestly is a good look at his efforts in game I. They highlight his total lack of giving a **** which cost NSW big each time. Still got paid though

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/20/the ... sw-jersey/

[The Nickman]

So you don’t think it’s worth giving your “best strike weapon” another chance after one bad game to completely redeem himself?

This is classic NSW, going in to the game he was single-handedly going to win the series, and now he’s dropped!

Do any of you honestly believe if NSW somehow won that game with a junktime BS try that they still make wholesale changes?

[LastRaider]

NSW just don’t get it unfortunately and picking a fullback and 5/8 to play centre is just bonkers. They need at least an experienced defensive centre on Chambers side if there going to drop players.


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[Northern Raider]

This article and video shows pretty clearly why Mitchell wasn't selected again. With it's title I thought it was going to be garbage but it honestly is a good look at his efforts in game I. They highlight his total lack of giving a **** which cost NSW big each time. Still got paid though

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/20/the ... sw-jersey/

Everybody could see his head was not in the game even watching live. I still don't agree with sacking him. Typical NSW reactionist approach. A good coach would put the onus back on the player to redeem himself. He's at least earned that right on what he delivered last year.

[FuiFui BradBrad]

Left of field here, but would BJ have been playing right centre in game 1 if he was fit?

I think if BJ was playing right centre, it would be right of field

[raiderskater]

So you don’t think it’s worth giving your “best strike weapon” another chance after one bad game to completely redeem himself?

Not in the context of the situation, no. He was also playing poorly for the Roosters before then and his head is clearly elsewhere. There are massive disruptions in his private life which don't just go away in a couple of weeks and would still be an issue for Origin II.

[BadnMean]

This article and video shows pretty clearly why Mitchell wasn't selected again. With it's title I thought it was going to be garbage but it honestly is a good look at his efforts in game I. They highlight his total lack of giving a **** which cost NSW big each time. Still got paid though

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/20/the ... sw-jersey/

Everybody could see his head was not in the game even watching live. I still don't agree with sacking him. Typical NSW reactionist approach. A good coach would put the onus back on the player to redeem himself. He's at least earned that right on what he delivered last year.

You'd think there was room for a bit of man management there- sit him down for a chat and see what went wrong, try to lift him back up, pump his tyres up or give him a spray or challenge him- whatever you judge works with his personality. That's basically what the majority of coaching is at origin level- selection and mindset.

[Northern Raider]

This article and video shows pretty clearly why Mitchell wasn't selected again. With it's title I thought it was going to be garbage but it honestly is a good look at his efforts in game I. They highlight his total lack of giving a **** which cost NSW big each time. Still got paid though

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/20/the ... sw-jersey/

Everybody could see his head was not in the game even watching live. I still don't agree with sacking him. Typical NSW reactionist approach. A good coach would put the onus back on the player to redeem himself. He's at least earned that right on what he delivered last year.

You'd think there was room for a bit of man management there- sit him down for a chat and see what went wrong, try to lift him back up, pump his tyres up or give him a spray or challenge him- whatever you judge works with his personality. That's basically what the majority of coaching is at origin level- selection and mindset.

You would think so. Ask him directly - "if we pick you are you going to repay our faith through performance or are you gonna phone it in again?"

Basically putting the acid on the player to decide if he plays or not. Its against convention but rep footy is about getting the best from the talent available for one off matches. Its not like coaching at club level where team harmony over the longer term is more critical.

[RedRaider]

Only speculating, but what if Freddy or others in the NSW set up did that and didn't get the answers they wanted from Mitchell. Freddy had said he was in contact with all of the players post Origin 1. They had worked closely with him in the 10 day lead up to Origin 1. They then saw the performance in Brisbane. If left with no option then reputation should not count. So they went with players who said they want to be there. Busy week so I've heard little from the NSW camp in Perth.

[Seiffert82]

Exactly. Whatever led to Mitchell's axing may have been just as much about training or off-field matters than just the game.

Who knows? The coach has his reasons, so unfortunately for NSW the players in game 1 have put the coach and team under enormous pressure for game 2.

[Dr Zaius]

NSW just don’t get it unfortunately and picking a fullback and 5/8 to play centre is just bonkers. They need at least an experienced defensive centre on Chambers side if there going to drop players.


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[RedRaider]

So you don’t think it’s worth giving your “best strike weapon” another chance after one bad game to completely redeem himself?

I thought Teddy was great in both matches so far. Turbo Tom looked to challenge him in SOO2 for the title of 'best strike weapon'.
If a players head is not in the right frame then it takes a gutsy coach to make the call on selection and Freddy was vindicated by the results.

[julian87]

This article and video shows pretty clearly why Mitchell wasn't selected again. With it's title I thought it was going to be garbage but it honestly is a good look at his efforts in game I. They highlight his total lack of giving a **** which cost NSW big each time. Still got paid though

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/20/the ... sw-jersey/

Yeah this showed it all. I reckon he wasn’t even considered pretty much due to this. It’s horrific and I dare say some of the players don’t want a bar of him after video sessions as well.

I don’t care how good he is. That video is a succession of no efforts. Not missed tackles or knock ons, it wasn’t a bad game or an off night like Nickman says. It was blatantly not trying and that’s as bad as it gets for a team sport athlete without actually throwing a game.

[Botman]

That video looks pretty damning and yet i bet in any given game, even last night for NSW, you could compile a video similarly of other outside backs. Especially the first 5. I see that **** 100 times a weekend from players... and of course ill get the "this is SOO! There is no room for that!!!" Bull... it's a game of footy and most of that is just a centre having a bad day.

6 and 7 are pretty bad though

[Neeeegz]

Just reading the resident "experts" opinions on here. Doesn't disappoint, nor surprise me how off the mark you all were... again

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[julian87]

That video looks pretty damning and yet i bet in any given game, even last night for NSW, you could compile a video similarly of other outside backs. Especially the first 5. I see that **** 100 times a weekend from players... and of course ill get the "this is SOO! There is no room for that!!!" Bull... it's a game of footy and most of that is just a centre having a bad day.

6 and 7 are pretty bad though

I actually think 1-5 are horrific. Centre is the least taxing position on the field and it’s very literally your job to lead in support and kick chase to finish off opportunities and force players in goal. Compare it to Wighton and Trbojevic last night. They finished off tries purely by being there in support and in Wigjtons case made Addo Carr more threatening on the switch simply be being a man there in support. The 3-5 plays are an embarrassment. Cook creates an attacking opportunity on his side and he is 20 meters behind the play. He’s the most behind player on the field and it is his job to be there. Backed up by not being on Cordners left shoulder and not chasing the kick is just not good enough.

I wouldn’t even consider him again for game 3. Even with an injury to Wighton/Trbo.

[dubby]

Ol' Jack Wighton at centre, hey. Went alright.



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[Northern Raider]

Ol' Jack Wighton at centre, hey. Went alright.



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Yeah amazing. Nobody would have picked that.

[dubby]

Ol' Jack Wighton at centre, hey. Went alright.



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Yeah amazing. Nobody would have picked that.

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[Finchy]

Hiding in plain sight: How unsung Raider Jarrod Croker is on track to torch Cam Smith’s point record

Despite his impressive point scoring record, Jarrod Croker is yet to play Origin for NSW or gain international selection with the Kangaroos.

“If I was a NSW selector he’d be the first guy I’d be picking in the centres for them. I love him. I love what he brings,” Wayne Bennett said. “He’s consistently good every year for Canberra, if they’re [NSW] looking for something they haven’t got. He did a great job.”

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... c47951d544

Canberra Raiders have a 19.9 per cent chance of edging out the Knights (18.3 per cent) for the all important fourth place finish: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... bb4dac180d

[greeneyed]

That graph is surprising, even to me, as a Croker fan.

[Roger Kenworthy]

GE he will have to vastly increase his trajectory as next year he will be the same age as Rapana. It will be time to stud for young JC.

[greeneyed]

Young who?