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simo wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:54 am If there was a wierd team picked where a centre needed to be selected from only the raiders squad, id have bj,wighton and cotric ahead of croker. Thats just from our team..
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simo wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:54 am If there was a wierd team picked where a centre needed to be selected from only the raiders squad, id have bj,wighton and cotric ahead of croker. Thats just from our team..
Yeah, but that's completely ignoring the fact Jack is our five-eighth and is SO much better in that position!

This scenario is akin to saying in 1994 the Raiders would select Mal Meninga and Laurie Daley over Ruben Wiki because we're completely ignoring the fact Daley was the five-eighth. It's a completely garbage scenario, Simson.
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:06 am
simo wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:54 am If there was a wierd team picked where a centre needed to be selected from only the raiders squad, id have bj,wighton and cotric ahead of croker. Thats just from our team..
Yeah, but that's completely ignoring the fact Jack is our five-eighth and is SO much better in that position!

This scenario is akin to saying in 1994 the Raiders would select Mal Meninga and Laurie Daley over Ruben Wiki because we're completely ignoring the fact Daley was the five-eighth. It's a completely garbage scenario, Simson.
Yes it is. But in the rep arena if a rep side has a spot available at centre thats the exact lost theyd run through. At some point theres going to be a tough decision to make on how much cap is invested into centres
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As good as it is to see Wighton as centre for NSW I'm still gobsmacked that Mitchell was dropped to accommodate him.
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Northern Raider wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:23 am As good as it is to see Wighton as centre for NSW I'm still gobsmacked that Mitchell was dropped to accommodate him.
Well I think it's absolutely fantastic.

And honestly, I hope Jack can bounce back pretty quickly from being dropped for Michael Jennings for Game 3 too. I really don't want another Campo 2009 scenario to railroad our season.
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:30 am
Northern Raider wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:23 am As good as it is to see Wighton as centre for NSW I'm still gobsmacked that Mitchell was dropped to accommodate him.
Well I think it's absolutely fantastic.

And honestly, I hope Jack can bounce back pretty quickly from being dropped for Michael Jennings for Game 3 too. I really don't want another Campo 2009 scenario to railroad our season.
He's a ready made scapegoat but I think you'll find its Dugan that replaces him.
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Northern Raider wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:36 am
The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:30 am
Northern Raider wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:23 am As good as it is to see Wighton as centre for NSW I'm still gobsmacked that Mitchell was dropped to accommodate him.
Well I think it's absolutely fantastic.

And honestly, I hope Jack can bounce back pretty quickly from being dropped for Michael Jennings for Game 3 too. I really don't want another Campo 2009 scenario to railroad our season.
He's a ready made scapegoat but I think you'll find its Dugan that replaces him.
Of course *slaps forehead*… how stupid of me!
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TBH I think the wiser play is mitchell in the centres with Jack and turbo to the winger replacing Blake.
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papabear wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:48 am TBH I think the wiser play is mitchell in the centres with Jack and turbo to the winger replacing Blake.
No that's equally dumb. Dropping a centre (who played well) to replace him with a 5/8.
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Voted by over 6,000 NRL fans of all clubs as the best centre of the week: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/16/cho ... -round-14/
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greeneyed wrote: June 18, 2019, 12:36 pm Voted by over 6,000 NRL fans of all clubs as the best centre of the week: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/16/cho ... -round-14/
He's not very good though, is he?? What would those 6,000 fans know that raiders fans don't
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Cody Walker definitely got the Campo treatment.
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If Croker wants to get picked for origin he is going to need to grow an afro, get some dreadlocks or change his name to something amusing. These seem to be far important criteria in getting picked for NSW than skill or form. Playing for one of the big Sydney clubs doesn't hurt the chances either!

Croker would do an excellent job if he was picked but it seems like that isn't going to happen. It certainly doesn't devalue him as a player in my eyes. NSW selections are often that bizarre they might as well be picked at random by a robot.
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pickles wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:35 pm If Croker wants to get picked for origin he is going to need to grow an afro, get some dreadlocks or change his name to something amusing. These seem to be far important criteria in getting picked for NSW than skill or form. Playing for one of the big Sydney clubs doesn't hurt the chances either!

Croker would do an excellent job if he was picked but it seems like that isn't going to happen. It certainly doesn't devalue him as a player in my eyes. NSW selections are often that bizarre they might as well be picked at random by a robot.
Carrying on like an absolute richardhead would do him massive favours in the eyes of the NSW selectors too.
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:38 pm
pickles wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:35 pm If Croker wants to get picked for origin he is going to need to grow an afro, get some dreadlocks or change his name to something amusing. These seem to be far important criteria in getting picked for NSW than skill or form. Playing for one of the big Sydney clubs doesn't hurt the chances either!

Croker would do an excellent job if he was picked but it seems like that isn't going to happen. It certainly doesn't devalue him as a player in my eyes. NSW selections are often that bizarre they might as well be picked at random by a robot.
Carrying on like an absolute richardhead would do him massive favours in the eyes of the NSW selectors too.
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Croker could definitely do with a good redemption story. No one really likes a clean skin in the NRL it doesn't sell papers when they don't **** up and it doesn't sell papers when they return to form!
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-PJ- wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:56 pm
The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:38 pm
pickles wrote: June 18, 2019, 3:35 pm If Croker wants to get picked for origin he is going to need to grow an afro, get some dreadlocks or change his name to something amusing. These seem to be far important criteria in getting picked for NSW than skill or form. Playing for one of the big Sydney clubs doesn't hurt the chances either!

Croker would do an excellent job if he was picked but it seems like that isn't going to happen. It certainly doesn't devalue him as a player in my eyes. NSW selections are often that bizarre they might as well be picked at random by a robot.
Carrying on like an absolute richardhead would do him massive favours in the eyes of the NSW selectors too.
So..
Get drunk, nude up, punch out 3 elderly citizens, cop the 12 week NRL stand down, face court, pay fine, community service, best preseason ever, lead Dally Ms, play Origin...

Redemption !!!
He'd be a starter in the team by 2020!
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:30 am
Northern Raider wrote: June 18, 2019, 11:23 am As good as it is to see Wighton as centre for NSW I'm still gobsmacked that Mitchell was dropped to accommodate him.
Well I think it's absolutely fantastic.

And honestly, I hope Jack can bounce back pretty quickly from being dropped for Michael Jennings for Game 3 too. I really don't want another Campo 2009 scenario to railroad our season.
I dont think Mitchel was dropped to accommodate Jack. Mitchell was dropped because a) he performed like a stunned dear in game 1, and b) Freddy doesn't trust him to be switched on for the whole 80 minutes.
As for Morris I am not surprised he was dropped. He was only selected due to Turbo not being available and Dugan is an ****. Morris created the try where he ran in and left Cotric 3 on 1. Anyone could have scored the try he scored.
Turbo took 1 centre spot and Jack was moved to centre to fill the other. Jack would've been picked anyway, just as a 14 instead of 4 or 3 whatever.
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If Latrell Mitchell and Dylan Walker, the “form half of the comp” were seriously dropped from Origin for one poor game in Brisbane, then it sums up everything wrong with NSW and their culture in one foul swoop

Doesn’t matter the rhetoric they spew out at us when they win, nothing has changed in twenty years
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Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d




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One fell swoop.
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greeneyed wrote:One fell swoop.
Why didn’t you just edit it?
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LastRaider wrote:Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d
Had been thinking this myself. Thing has a bad smell about it.

Be very disappointing if poor support from team mates and staff contributed to the poor performances and being dropped. I don’t think refusing to sing the anthem in the circumstances is an unreasonable protest.
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LastRaider wrote:Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d




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I thought most if the indigenous players made their stance pretty clear even before selection for the first game. I think Rickman is probably closest to the truth in suggesting it's a NSW knee-jerk reaction. Mitchell wasn't at his best but didn't get any quality ball. NSW was on the defensive for the middle 40 minutes of the game so unless you have a strategy of getting it out wide, coming out of your own end he isn't getting any ball. QLD definitely used tgeir backline strike power better.

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gangrenous wrote:
LastRaider wrote:Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d
Had been thinking this myself. Thing has a bad smell about it.

Be very disappointing if poor support from team mates and staff contributed to the poor performances and being dropped. I don’t think refusing to sing the anthem in the circumstances is an unreasonable protest.
Players haven’t sung the national anthem since I’ve been a kid! I doubt most of them even know the words

And now because players aren’t signing for a genuine reason NSW drops them? Classic NSW. What a ridiculous state
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The Rickman wrote: June 19, 2019, 8:14 am
greeneyed wrote:One fell swoop.
Why didn’t you just edit it?
Because you’re always complaining.
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The Rickman wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
LastRaider wrote:Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d
Had been thinking this myself. Thing has a bad smell about it.

Be very disappointing if poor support from team mates and staff contributed to the poor performances and being dropped. I don’t think refusing to sing the anthem in the circumstances is an unreasonable protest.
Players haven’t sung the national anthem since I’ve been a kid! I doubt most of them even know the words

And now because players aren’t signing for a genuine reason NSW drops them? Classic NSW. What a ridiculous state
I believe It was ridiculous to think channeling Kaepernik in the lead up to game 1 would be anything other then detrimental.... let's hope they do it again!🤣

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The Rickman wrote: June 19, 2019, 8:27 am
gangrenous wrote:
LastRaider wrote:Interesting article on news.com.au.

Around the clubs in Sydney there were rumours that the national anthem boycott wasn’t well recieved by players and the higher management

https://www.news.com.au/sport/former-or ... 23ed8ad14d
Had been thinking this myself. Thing has a bad smell about it.

Be very disappointing if poor support from team mates and staff contributed to the poor performances and being dropped. I don’t think refusing to sing the anthem in the circumstances is an unreasonable protest.
Players haven’t sung the national anthem since I’ve been a kid! I doubt most of them even know the words

And now because players aren’t signing for a genuine reason NSW drops them? Classic NSW. What a ridiculous state
There other players who didn’t sing and they’re playing Sunday... and there’s more than two. By the way, if Indigenous people are offended by “young and free” and want “brave and free” or “strong and free” let’s do it. They changed “Australia’s sons” to “Australians all” for a good reason and this is exactly the same.
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I just read the article and the quotes. Tahu has no idea and he's drawn that conclusion himself.

They got dropped because they played ****. Whether they should have gotten dropped is a different debate.
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I couldn’t care less if they sing or not, they’re not on The Voice.

And Ado Carr didn’t sing, stunk up game 1 and has survived.
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What has any of this got to do with Jarrod Croker being a poor defender who both rushes out of the line and can’t handle hard runners like Kondrad Hurrell? 🤭
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Billy Walker wrote: June 19, 2019, 9:14 am What has any of this got to do with Jarrod Croker being a poor defender who both rushes out of the line and can’t handle hard runners like Kondrad Hurrell? 🤭
Nothing really but at least its a more intelligent topic.
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