2019 Rd 12 V Bulldogs: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
15%
Raiders 1-12
8
62%
Draw
0
No votes
Bulldogs 1-12
2
15%
Bulldogs 13+
1
8%
 
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dubby wrote: June 1, 2019, 8:13 pm
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dubby wrote:Not as confident with Crokers kicking this year. He's a bit off. Still the best be have

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dubby wrote: June 1, 2019, 8:13 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:
dubby wrote:Not as confident with Crokers kicking this year. He's a bit off. Still the best be have

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Raiders’ huge omen?

According to Fox Sports Lab, Canberra’s 12-10 win over Canterbury on Saturday night was their fewest points scored in a win in 30 years. The Raiders had not won a match scoring 12 points or less since also winning 12-10 over Manly at Brookvale Oval in Round 8, 1989.

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greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 5:48 am Raiders’ huge omen?

According to Fox Sports Lab, Canberra’s 12-10 win over Canterbury on Saturday night was their fewest points scored in a win in 30 years. The Raiders had not won a match scoring 12 points or less since also winning 12-10 over Manly at Brookvale Oval in Round 8, 1989.

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NRL.com power rankings

7. Canberra Raiders (8)
A great, gutsy effort against the Dogs without their Origin players. They rocked up to ANZ Stadium and Ricky Stuart would've known his side were underdogs and was probably expecting an ambush. But the Raiders worked hard and looked like they wanted it a bit more than the Dogs.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/03/sow ... s-plummet/

Not sure I really get why the Raiders are in seventh, when they are running fifth... but more importantly, they are running fifth on 14 points with a bye in hand. Three teams above them, including the Knights in fourth on points differential and also on 14 competition points, have had their bye. The Sharks are on 14 points, in sixth on points difference, but they've also had their bye. There are five teams on 12 points, but two have had their bye. The Raiders have seven wins, and that's ranked fourth in the league. It's a better position to be in than is immediately apparent. That's why that Bulldogs win was so important.
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Sowies powies run on the accumulated form of the year. Ladder position isn't as important as who they were against and future draw isn't counted at all.
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greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:05 pm NRL.com power rankings

7. Canberra Raiders (8)
A great, gutsy effort against the Dogs without their Origin players. They rocked up to ANZ Stadium and Ricky Stuart would've known his side were underdogs and was probably expecting an ambush. But the Raiders worked hard and looked like they wanted it a bit more than the Dogs.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/03/sow ... s-plummet/

Not sure I really get why the Raiders are in seventh, when they are running fifth... but more importantly, they are running fifth on 14 points with a bye in hand. Three teams above them, including the Knights in fourth on points differential and also on 14 competition points, have had their bye. The Sharks are on 14 points, in sixth on points difference, but they've also had their bye. There are five teams on 12 points, but two have had their bye. The Raiders have seven wins, and that's ranked fourth in the league. It's a better position to be in than is immediately apparent. That's why that Bulldogs win was so important.
I don't think you understand power rankings, mate. We've lost three of our last four games and four of our last six. If the rankings were meant to reflect where we sit on the table they'd just be called "the competition ladder".
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I understand... but is it better than looking at the competition ladder and a form line? This power ranking seems very subjective. Nick, I reckon you could quickly write an algorithm that combines ladder and form and come up with something more accurate and scientific. That’s your assignment for the afternoon!
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greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:36 pm I understand... but is it better than looking at the competition ladder and a form line? This power ranking seems very subjective. Nick, I reckon you could quickly write an algorithm that combines ladder and form and come up with something more accurate and scientific. That’s your assignment for the afternoon!
But I'm currently trying to finish a model that was due last Thursday!!

Do... do I really have to abandon this for your algorithm??
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The Rickman wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:52 pm
greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:36 pm I understand... but is it better than looking at the competition ladder and a form line? This power ranking seems very subjective. Nick, I reckon you could quickly write an algorithm that combines ladder and form and come up with something more accurate and scientific. That’s your assignment for the afternoon!
But I'm currently trying to finish a model that was due last Thursday!!

Do... do I really have to abandon this for your algorithm??
Algorithm power rankings:
1 nrl ladder scaled to recent results factoring in teams played ladder and previous power ranks
2 some stupid model we cant shove in sowards face
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If I were in charge of power rankings I'd pretty much copy a betting agencies ranking for the odds on the teams winning the GF.
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greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:05 pm NRL.com power rankings

7. Canberra Raiders (8)
A great, gutsy effort against the Dogs without their Origin players. They rocked up to ANZ Stadium and Ricky Stuart would've known his side were underdogs and was probably expecting an ambush. But the Raiders worked hard and looked like they wanted it a bit more than the Dogs.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/03/sow ... s-plummet/

Not sure I really get why the Raiders are in seventh, when they are running fifth... but more importantly, they are running fifth on 14 points with a bye in hand. Three teams above them, including the Knights in fourth on points differential and also on 14 competition points, have had their bye. The Sharks are on 14 points, in sixth on points difference, but they've also had their bye. There are five teams on 12 points, but two have had their bye. The Raiders have seven wins, and that's ranked fourth in the league. It's a better position to be in than is immediately apparent. That's why that Bulldogs win was so important.
I think we'd won 1 from 5 coming into that game and have half our best players out injured. Seems fair enough.
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The Rickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:36 pm I understand... but is it better than looking at the competition ladder and a form line? This power ranking seems very subjective. Nick, I reckon you could quickly write an algorithm that combines ladder and form and come up with something more accurate and scientific. That’s your assignment for the afternoon!
But I'm currently trying to finish a model that was due last Thursday!!

Do... do I really have to abandon this for your algorithm??
You know you want to.


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I actually do, but... must... resist... must do... actual work... uggghhh!!
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The Rickman wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:27 pm
greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:05 pm NRL.com power rankings

7. Canberra Raiders (8)
A great, gutsy effort against the Dogs without their Origin players. They rocked up to ANZ Stadium and Ricky Stuart would've known his side were underdogs and was probably expecting an ambush. But the Raiders worked hard and looked like they wanted it a bit more than the Dogs.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/03/sow ... s-plummet/

Not sure I really get why the Raiders are in seventh, when they are running fifth... but more importantly, they are running fifth on 14 points with a bye in hand. Three teams above them, including the Knights in fourth on points differential and also on 14 competition points, have had their bye. The Sharks are on 14 points, in sixth on points difference, but they've also had their bye. There are five teams on 12 points, but two have had their bye. The Raiders have seven wins, and that's ranked fourth in the league. It's a better position to be in than is immediately apparent. That's why that Bulldogs win was so important.
I don't think you understand power rankings, mate. We've lost three of our last four games and four of our last six. If the rankings were meant to reflect where we sit on the table they'd just be called "the competition ladder".
Its almost like trying to make sense of Matts Matchups...
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Coastalraider wrote: June 3, 2019, 3:24 pm
The Rickman wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:27 pm
greeneyed wrote: June 3, 2019, 1:05 pm NRL.com power rankings

7. Canberra Raiders (8)
A great, gutsy effort against the Dogs without their Origin players. They rocked up to ANZ Stadium and Ricky Stuart would've known his side were underdogs and was probably expecting an ambush. But the Raiders worked hard and looked like they wanted it a bit more than the Dogs.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/03/sow ... s-plummet/

Not sure I really get why the Raiders are in seventh, when they are running fifth... but more importantly, they are running fifth on 14 points with a bye in hand. Three teams above them, including the Knights in fourth on points differential and also on 14 competition points, have had their bye. The Sharks are on 14 points, in sixth on points difference, but they've also had their bye. There are five teams on 12 points, but two have had their bye. The Raiders have seven wins, and that's ranked fourth in the league. It's a better position to be in than is immediately apparent. That's why that Bulldogs win was so important.
I don't think you understand power rankings, mate. We've lost three of our last four games and four of our last six. If the rankings were meant to reflect where we sit on the table they'd just be called "the competition ladder".
Its almost like trying to make sense of Matts Matchups...
Hahaha don't be silly... that's impossible
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Round 12 In the sheds: Tom Starling: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... -starling/

Raiders.com.au competition to vote for man of the match: https://www.raiders.com.au/competitions ... vote-motm/

Round 12 Moment of the week: This week's moment of the week from the Round 12 win against the Bulldogs is the last ditch tackle from Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad on Marcelo Montoya which sealed the win for the Raiders: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... -the-week/

Gallery: Raiders see off determined Bulldogs: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... -bulldogs/

By the numbers: Raiders v Bulldogs: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... -bulldogs/

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Question regarding an NRL rule to those who know Rugby League better than I, when is it okay and not okay to push in a scrum?

I feel like every few weeks we see a team in a desperate game situation push in a scrum against the feed.
Most of the time referee's will just pull the teams up and make them feed the scrum again, but 2-3 times a year the referee will let it go.

also why wouldn't teams try to push at a scrum the first time one is packed if the worse that happens is that it'll just be re-fed (unless there's a couple of infringements in a row)
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Sid wrote: June 4, 2019, 12:17 pm Question regarding an NRL rule to those who know Rugby League better than I, when is it okay and not okay to push in a scrum?

I feel like every few weeks we see a team in a desperate game situation push in a scrum against the feed.
Most of the time referee's will just pull the teams up and make them feed the scrum again, but 2-3 times a year the referee will let it go.

also why wouldn't teams try to push at a scrum the first time one is packed if the worse that happens is that it'll just be re-fed (unless there's a couple of infringements in a row)
Scrums are rest time. Pushing in scrums is frowned apon as it goes against the forward unions code of conduct. Id be throwing cheap hooks if an opposition forward did anything but lean on me
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Interestingly Refs will occasionally tell the teams not to push in the scrum.

You will hear the Ref say on the TV coverage “Don’t push here fellas”.
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It's frowned upon but there must be some circumstances when it is allowed, otherwise teams wouldn't push and there wouldn't be those rare ones where it is just allowed to continue
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greeneyed wrote: June 4, 2019, 12:29 pm @TheGHRaiders on Twitter

Canberra Raiders fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad makes the NRL.com Team of the Week: Round 12, 2019 https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/02/cho ... -round-12/
I reckon Bateman makes it too if they had named him where he ended up playing.
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VIDEO: Canberra Raiders forward Sia Soliola talks squad depth, Tigers match and Origin

Sia Soliola covered a number of topics at Raiders HQ earlier as the forward prepares to face the Tigers on the back of the green machine's close win over the Bulldogs.

Video: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... nd-origin/

PODCAST: Behind the Limelight: Sia Soliola and Shaun McRae: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... un-mcrae2/

Game Day Guide: Raiders v Tigers: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2019/06 ... -v-tigers/

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