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Geez, if his attitude was right, BJ could do some serious damage coming off the bench!
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This is not something we need to face into for a while unfortunately. But assuming that cotric continues his form from the bunnies game you'd have to consider keeping him at centre. If BJ can reproduce his form from earlier in the year he also demands a starting centre role. I'd personally be inclined to move Croker to wing and shift cotric to left centre.
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Oh oh. Croker to wing just sighted. We'll just have to see how BJ's neck goes and whether Cotric can outplay a Dally M centre of the year first.
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Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
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Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
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How did a thread about Leilua being out for the season lead to a discussion about moving Croker to the wing? :lol:
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To allow for cotric to remain in centres if he kills it. Not a giant step
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simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:19 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
Move forward and adapt? Why does Croker need to adapt to being a winger when he is an out and out centre, and has been his entire career? Fair dinks, some of the things that get thrown up around here sometimes. Why don’t we move Wighton to second row, Whitehead to bench utility, Leilua to 5/8 to accomodate Cotric at centre? Can’t believe no one thought of that yet!
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Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:53 pm
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:19 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
Move forward and adapt? Why does Croker need to adapt to being a winger when he is an out and out centre, and has been his entire career? Fair dinks, some of the things that get thrown up around here sometimes. Why don’t we move Wighton to second row, Whitehead to bench utility, Leilua to 5/8 to accomodate Cotric at centre? Can’t believe no one thought of that yet!
That's just crazy enough to work. I like the cut of your jib.
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Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:53 pm
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:19 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
Move forward and adapt? Why does Croker need to adapt to being a winger when he is an out and out centre, and has been his entire career? Fair dinks, some of the things that get thrown up around here sometimes. Why don’t we move Wighton to second row, Whitehead to bench utility, Leilua to 5/8 to accomodate Cotric at centre? Can’t believe no one thought of that yet!
Well i can tell you’re definitely worth discussing things with. Great insights....
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simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:23 pm To allow for cotric to remain in centres if he kills it. Not a giant step
There's nothing about Croker's game that would make him a decent winger.
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simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:59 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:53 pm
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:19 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
Move forward and adapt? Why does Croker need to adapt to being a winger when he is an out and out centre, and has been his entire career? Fair dinks, some of the things that get thrown up around here sometimes. Why don’t we move Wighton to second row, Whitehead to bench utility, Leilua to 5/8 to accomodate Cotric at centre? Can’t believe no one thought of that yet!
Well i can tell you’re definitely worth discussing things with. Great insights....
If the conversation is about Croker moving to the wing, the discussion ended before it begun.
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Peter wrote:
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:19 pm
Peter wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:02 pm Jarrod Croker is not a winger and it should never even be a suggestion to move arguably our most consistent player of the past 5 years anywhere but #3. Stop insulting the bloke.
Its not an insult in 2019. Catch up please. If youcant move forward and adapt you are wasting your time
Move forward and adapt? Why does Croker need to adapt to being a winger when he is an out and out centre, and has been his entire career? Fair dinks, some of the things that get thrown up around here sometimes. Why don’t we move Wighton to second row, Whitehead to bench utility, Leilua to 5/8 to accomodate Cotric at centre? Can’t believe no one thought of that yet!
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Send Joey to KFC and we have ourselves an impact prop.
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MrPosh wrote:Send Joey to KFC and we have ourselves an impact prop.
Just sign his brother. Slightly bigger but also with a good offload.

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Let me start by saying I honestly believe BJ to be easily top 5 center in the game for years.
But if BJ is on the rumoured $800k as a strike centre, which is entirely possible, then some tough decisions need to be made over the next 12 months if Cotric kills it.
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Beejay wrote: May 22, 2019, 10:00 am Let me start by saying I honestly believe BJ to be easily top 5 center in the game for years.
But if BJ is on the rumoured $800k as a strike centre, which is entirely possible, then some tough decisions need to be made over the next 12 months if Cotric kills it.
I havent read 800k anywhere??? Hes 650k tops which would be inline with croker and i think he is a better centre than crokes
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Seiffert82 wrote: May 22, 2019, 12:19 am
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:23 pm To allow for cotric to remain in centres if he kills it. Not a giant step
There's nothing about Croker's game that would make him a decent winger.
So now you want to drop our captain entirely if cotric shows hes a better centre than him? Youve lost the plot
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Seiffert82 wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:21 pm How did a thread about Leilua being out for the season lead to a discussion about moving Croker to the wing? :lol:
They all end up there eventually.
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I'm sorry Simo. I tried to entertain the scenario that was suggested. Clearly it's beyond some people to deal with hypotheticals. Fortunately (or unfortunately) this won't be something we'll need to face into in 2019. Hopefully Croker and cotric play so good for the remainder of the year that not even BJ could warrant either of the being moved...
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FROG wrote: May 22, 2019, 1:10 pm I'm sorry Simo. I tried to entertain the scenario that was suggested. Clearly it's beyond some people to deal with hypotheticals. Fortunately (or unfortunately) this won't be something we'll need to face into in 2019. Hopefully Croker and cotric play so good for the remainder of the year that not even BJ could warrant either of the being moved...
Thank you for not having your opinion so deeply engrained in your mind that you see it as the only possible option.
I hope its something we need to deeply consider, either at the end of this year, or the start of next.
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Even if Cotric wins the Dally M from his current position we'll be 1-5 next year the same as this, assuming Rappa is re-signed. If Rappa ends up leaving and that gives Leilua cause to want out or to follow his mate we'll see Cotric move into the centres as the obvious replacement.
If Ricky was to shuffle things after discussing it with the players it won't be Leilua that is moved. Croker is so far above him as a winger it's not funny.
Then you've got Cotric at left centre and that whole Zoolander thing he's got going on with his passing. Still a lot of improvement there.
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zim wrote: May 22, 2019, 1:48 pm Even if Cotric wins the Dally M from his current position we'll be 1-5 next year the same as this, assuming Rappa is re-signed. If Rappa ends up leaving and that gives Leilua cause to want out or to follow his mate we'll see Cotric move into the centres as the obvious replacement.
If Ricky was to shuffle things after discussing it with the players it won't be Leilua that is moved. Croker is so far above him as a winger it's not funny.
Then you've got Cotric at left centre and that whole Zoolander thing he's got going on with his passing. Still a lot of improvement there.
Poor cotric wasnt born an ambi-passer.
I think it would be negligent of ricky not to havethat convo if cotric kills it
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MrPosh wrote: May 22, 2019, 7:14 am Send Joey to KFC and we have ourselves an impact prop.
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simo wrote: May 22, 2019, 11:00 am
Seiffert82 wrote: May 22, 2019, 12:19 am
simo wrote: May 21, 2019, 7:23 pm To allow for cotric to remain in centres if he kills it. Not a giant step
There's nothing about Croker's game that would make him a decent winger.
So now you want to drop our captain entirely if cotric shows hes a better centre than him? Youve lost the plot
I haven't lost anything.

In this hypothetical situation for next season, my opinion is that I don't think Croker would be a very good NRL winger. What you might gain in Cotric being a better centre than Toots, you'd likely lose more in Toots being a worse winger than Cotric.

I just don't see Croker as a quality NRL winger in this day and age.
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EJ wrote: May 22, 2019, 11:01 pm
MrPosh wrote: May 22, 2019, 7:14 am Send Joey to KFC and we have ourselves an impact prop.
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greeneyed wrote:The Greenhouse on Facebook

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Joey Leilua taking small steps towards Canberra Raiders return

It's another small step for Canberra Raiders star Joey Leilua as he continues his comeback from a serious neck injury. He's started neck strengthening exercises - but coach Ricky Stuart isn't worried about a timeframe for his return, with only focus on "getting his body right".

"He's in rehabilitation mode at the moment. The most important thing is our high-performance team is bringing him along slowly and trying to give him the best rehab possible in regards to his latest operation," Stuart said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239
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greeneyed wrote: July 6, 2019, 9:05 pm Joey Leilua taking small steps towards Canberra Raiders return

It's another small step for Canberra Raiders star Joey Leilua as he continues his comeback from a serious neck injury. He's started neck strengthening exercises - but coach Ricky Stuart isn't worried about a timeframe for his return, with only focus on "getting his body right".

"He's in rehabilitation mode at the moment. The most important thing is our high-performance team is bringing him along slowly and trying to give him the best rehab possible in regards to his latest operation," Stuart said.

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BJ given doctor's clearance to resume full training. NRL physio suggesting 2-3 weeks till return.

Canberra Raiders star Joey Leilua cleared to return to training following back surgery

Joey Leilua has been given medical clearance to resume training and will push to return this season just three months after undergoing spinal surgery.

“Joey met with the doctors today and the news is positive for both Joey and his family, but also the entire Raiders club,’’ Canberra coach Ricky Stuart said. “The specialists are happy with everything which will allow Joey to commence training.

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https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/ ... bdt7c7algj

Canberra Raiders star Joey Leilua set to return this season

Canberra Raiders star Joey Leilua is set to play again this season after his specialist gave him the all clear to increase his training.

"BJ's had a very positive response from his specialist today, which is really good news for us to continue and upgrade his training," Stuart said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... is-season/

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Joey Leilua is hopeful of a return this season after he received medical clearance to resume training today (via
@DaveRic1. Currently 12wks since he required surgery on a herniated and bulging disc in his neck. Usual return to play for these surgery types is from 12wks onwards
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First reaction: *excited gasp and big grin*

Second reaction: Oh no, don't rush it Joey, please don't rush it, take your time on this one...
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Very good news. Great to hear Joey is well. Easy to fear the worst in those situations.
Added bonus if he plays this year.
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